It's been 7 weeks since mc but still not af...when to ring the GP?

[bobster]

With my pregnancy my dr didn't do any monitoring until my 8 week appointment (which obviously didn't go too well). Im going in for a follow up appt on 11/26, so will ask then if they do anything different after you've had a loss. Seems like my dr does things the same way they do in the UK.

I'm having a little bit of a down day today. It is my birthday, and I'm sad that I'm another year older and have no baby, and I was supposed to be in my 2nd trimester by now. Blah.

mlm- did you do anything nice to celebrate your birthday and take you mind off this ttc melarky?

Its such a stress isn't it.. I know (well we all do) how you feel.. Its constantly on my mind and I wish I could just relax and let it happen. Have you started smep as planned?

 

[GI_Jane]

Jane I bought mine from Tesco which were about £4 but on 3 for 2. I took my last dose last night and didn't have any side effects. It might be worth checking with your doctor to see if they are safe with your antidepressant though.

For my first mc I went to epu in York and they monitored my hcg every other day but not progesterone. When I asked about that they said they didn't do that test so god knows

The second time I went to GP and she refused to even do a hcg and said the same as your doctor. I feel like they just want to fob you off sometimes. My epu wouldn't take anyone under 6 weeks however they base it on your last menstrual cycle so if you have a longer one like us they always assume you are further on so will probably see you.

I think next time I will just go private as soon as I get a bfp. I want my progesterone checking as thats a well known cause of early mc so I just don't know why they don't test it... so frustrating!

Thanks for the info bobster, I will see what happens the rest of this cycle and if no bfp will look into the soy next cycle. I must go and purchase some baby aspirin though- from what I've read it can't hurt.

I was thinking about going down the private route for those initial first tests too.

Been reading up on the progesterone thing, some say in the uk they won't test or give you progesterone because if your pregnancy is not viable progesterone lowers so our body will expel the lining and embryo which is different to the low progesterone being the cause of the miscarriage...it's so crap not knowing what the actual cause is...it's not good for our mental health to go through this more than once or twice. Any more is just cruel. Fingers crossed none of us go through this again though!

DH asked me if I thought we had made a baby yet- so sweet, he really wants this. He bought me a new winter coat for Christmas and said 'it won't fit once you get a baby bump'....love his optimism. We agreed we need to make more of an effort to so we'll see how that goes!

I know Mlm will be trying SMEP, but will you be bobster? Has af finished for both of you?

 

[mackjess]

Jane, when my OB told me about progesterone, because mine was low after the m/c, she said that giving me progesterone during pregnancy wouldn't have helped if there was something wrong with the baby. I still would have lost it. But she said if nothing was wrong with the pregnancy, that progesterone would just help my body support it. So it didn't sound like a make or break on whether it would cause or save a miscarriage, but that it would just help out to have it higher if I happened to have low levels. Hope that helps. She said it's common to have lower progesterone if you are on the pill a long time, so it might be something worth checking into.

 

[GI_Jane]

Thanks mackjess makes sense.

How are you doing? Have you been able to concentrate on non baby stuff?

 

[bobster]

Oh yes i've been meaning to buy baby aspirin too..

Thanks for the info on the prgesterone. It makes me feel a bit better that it wouldn't have stopped the mc's anyway as you always feel its something you've done. The first one happened after I carried shopping home from the supermarket and I felt guilty for that!

Ah Jane your dh sounds very sweet. I wish my oh was so interested in it. I know he wants a baby but he's not impatient like I am. Do you think you've o'd now? I guess saturday will tell all.. maybe you'll have loads of o signs and you can get some weekend bd'ing in.

Still bleeding slightly cd 6 today.. will start bd'ing around cd 10 x

 

[mackjess]

Thanks mackjess makes sense.

How are you doing? Have you been able to concentrate on non baby stuff?

I stayed off of BnB for a whole hour. Maybe two.

 

[mlm115]

haha mackjess, a whole hour?! Good for you! Feeling ok? Any new symptoms?

Af is totally gone for me now. Started smep a couple days ago and using preseed. Feeling a little crampy today, maybe early ovulation sign? I am CD10 today, usually O on CD14 or 15. Although this cycle could be totally different cause of the miscarriage. We will see!

 

[GI_Jane]

Hey ladies,

Haha, mackjess you crack me up...it's official now you have changed the status on your profile thing above your dog- hope we can all follow your lead in doing that soon!

Mlm- are you doing your best to make DH not feel used during the SMEP and throwing in a couple of extras? Haha sounds so wrong.

No change here, a bit more BD...thinking I should be ovulating Saturday but as you know not totally sure and perhaps I have already so just keeping at it....

Bobster and Mlm what are your estimated test dates- based on your estimated o date? If your cycles are shorter then mine then perhaps we will all be testing fairly close together.....December 8th will be when my next af is due and I promised DH no testing early!!!!

 

[mlm115]

Jane, I think our timing is the same! I should ovulate around Saturday and get af on 12/8 (unless my cycle is totally different than normal because of the miscarriage). I don't think I will test until the 12th though if I don't get af.

DH has no idea we are doing smep. Apparently he thinks I'm just in the mood every other day haha.

 

[bobster]

Jane, I think our timing is the same! I should ovulate around Saturday and get af on 12/8 (unless my cycle is totally different than normal because of the miscarriage). I don't think I will test until the 12th though if I don't get af.

DH has no idea we are doing smep. Apparently he thinks I'm just in the mood every other day haha.

Hahaha thats funny. I'm not going to tell OH either, I will pretend i'm super horny too.. hehehe.

I'm due a whole 10 days behind you two! I'm due af around the 18th but will be testing earlier no doubt...

 

[bobster]

Still bleeding loads too! Its like a tap! (sorry tmi)

 

[GI_Jane]

I tested this evening...and bfn...I'm so stupid (or just super hopeful)....
So if I did ovulate early then that would put me at 7dpo I think so I was like I have the super sensitive IC so I gave it a go but now I'm disappointed.
Obviously if I haven't ovulated yet then what would I expect....just wanted to feel closer to getting that bfp Had to hide the evidence in an empty cat food container in the trash.

Please don't think I'm nuts!

 

[mlm115]

Jane, you're not nuts. I was contemplating getting a test because I'm having little crampy twinges and thinking I may have o'ed right after af even though that's probably not even possible. This situation brings out the crazy in us I think! Try not up be disappointed, as you will probably O soon and be able to work on getting that bfp!

 

[GI_Jane]

Jane, you're not nuts. I was contemplating getting a test because I'm having little crampy twinges and thinking I may have o'ed right after af even though that's probably not even possible. This situation brings out the crazy in us I think! Try not up be disappointed, as you will probably O soon and be able to work on getting that bfp!

Thanks Mlm. I had those crampty twinges straight after af too...I figured it was stuff just settling down but this cycle is definitely a bit odd and makes you wonder what's going on.

 

[bobster]

You're definitely not nuts Jane! I've been there before.. I tested at 4dpo before. But think, you're still in with a great chance this month- you might not have ovulated yet! And if not this month then next- in the grand scheme of things even if it wasn't this month whats a couple of months? I know we all want it bad, but it will happen for all of us. I know it will and it will worth all this heartache x

 

[mlm115]

Bobster, you are right. A couple of months is not a lot if you look at the big picture. Thanks for giving me a little perspective!

 

[bobster]

How are you feeling Jane? Any symptoms of ovulation? Hope you are feeling brighter today.

Mlm- I'm still bleeding quite heavily. I think I must be having two periods as I missed one after mc. And having crampy twinges around ovary so hope i'm not going to ovulate while bleeding. grr bodies are so confusing. Anymore ov symptoms for you?

I have had a terrible day at work today. I have been on a 12 hour shift and didn't sleep well at all last night so felt tired and cranky all day.

Had to have a back to work meeting with my boss today after being off for 2 days with the cold the week before last. She was saying that she was worried about me and said that she said I don't seem the same person recently. I broke down in tears and said I was just feeling emotional after the mc and hormonal. Its embarrassing as although she's a really good boss I haven't really had many conversations with her about my feelings and she's not the easiest person to talk to about stuff (probably because she's my boss!). She said she thinks I should go to occupational health and talk to a professional (ie shrink) as she doesn't want me to go off with depression! I didn't know I was letting my feelings recently show so much at work and feel so down about it. I feel like i've let her down almost as when she employed me (2 years ago) I was really enthusiastic about work and it showed but since ttc i've been less 'into' learning and I know i've been very distracted...

Grrrr I don't know. I suppose I hadn't known how much it must show to other people until today :,(

 

[GI_Jane]

Hey, only just seen your post bobster. I'm at work and using my phone so will post a proper reply when I get home. But didn't want to read and run.
Just quickly I will say that you are allowed to be down some times so dont be too hard on yourself if someone has noticed. Talking to someone as your boss suggests is not a bad thing but only if you feel you need to and it doesn't have to be a shrink. Bosses can exaggerate and she is covering her own arse to tell you to go to occupational health. But don't be forced into it. These pesky hormones have a lot to answer to, make sure you are getting enough iron if you are still on the bleeding that can tire you out too.x

 

[mlm115]

Hey Bobster, how long has it been since af started now? Is it possible ovulate while your still bleeding? Sorry about the work stuff. I also have been less focused at work since TTC and feel a little bad about it. I agree with Jane though, talking to someone is definitely not a bad thing if you are feeling down. I have been meaning to make an appointment myself. I actually go every once in a while myself for anxiety issues and it makes me feel a lot better. How awkward talking to your boss about it though, that stinks.

 

[GI_Jane]

How you feeling this evening bobster? Is af starting to ease up?

I too have been distracted since TTC and especially since the mc. Sometimes I catch myself not thinking about getting a bfp etc and that's a nice feeling these days. I spend a lot of time looking at the calendar on my computer at work...I'm either counting down the days to ovulation, af or when I can test or counting how many weeks pregnant I would have been now or if I get a bfp this month, how many weeks pregnant I will be when it's my sisters big party next year etc etc...it doesn't stop. As time has gone on since the mc my mood has been more even and i feel better with regards to that.

As for ovulation, I'm really not sure what's going on with that. Things started to get a bit more slippery down there this week so thought I was on for the big O soon (maybe this weekend as predicted) but today it seems to have dried up so I think I o'd Thursday but the cm wasn't Ewcm more watery and not really stretchy....so I'm thinking maybe it's been and gone or it's still gearing up for the proper stretchy stuff. I've had no other symptoms and I never got the OPk's so its still a wait and see. We only BD'd on Monday and Thursday so far this week, not sure it's enough.

But as you say bobster, this month or next or even the one after, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things but sooner rather than later would be nice.x

Did you ovulate yet Mlm?