It's been 7 weeks since mc but still not af...when to ring the GP?

[GI_Jane]

Yay bobster sounds like af is here without a doubt. About bloody time lol.
Mine was diff from previous cycles too. Yes I had the brown stuff and quite a bit too for about 3 days then the red was watery and heavy but not as bad cramps as I would typically get-I only used ibuprofen once and normally I need codeine/ibuprofen mix for the first three days. No clots though which is unusual for me too but however it came I was just sooooo happy to see it! I don't think I o'd in those 8 weeks I was waiting either.

So I think I did o and I am out this month, usually between ovulation and af I get a patch of these horrible spots towards the side of my nose and I have a few of them now....so it could be coincidence but the fact I already had some Ewcm ( wasn't much though) I think maybe I didn't catch it this month....anyway if that is true at least af would be here in the next 10 days or so but equally I could be wrong! more waiting.

Usually for us I have to initiate it always (which I really hate) and when we are home the cat just loves being around us so we have to shut her out but she then spends the whole time (which isn't long lol) scratching at the door and meowing...DH said one time just to ignore her and do it while she was asleep at the bottom of our bed and I was like no way!

Mlm does your dog try to watch you bd? Haha.

 

[bobster]

Haha oh dear Jane! I think I would prob have to kick her out too! My oh seems to go off it around ovation too! Boo. U never know Jane u may not be out as u dont have to do it that much as sperm can hang around in there a while. I have a feeling u may not hav o'd yet though as u say u haven't had much ewcm and u are still a bit early for your usual o date aren't u? I would keep bd'ing to be safe! Maybe its not too LTE to get some cheap opk's just to check? Thank u so much for describing your af.. it sounds very similar to mine so I feel reassured now x

 

[GI_Jane]

Hey bobster, yes I think I will get some cheap opks just to get a handle on this cycle.
From some signs I think I'm out but from others I think I still have a chance so will have to keep bd just to cover all bases.

Oh and I loved your idea about the bfp in a Christmas cracker, might have to steal that one if successful this month!

Did you say you were a nurse? Do you think your shift pattern ruins chances to bd?

 

[mlm115]

Jane, your cycle is confusing me too! I guess just keep bd'ing in case you did not o yet?

My dog is crazy and there is noooo way we could bd with her in the room (not that I would want to- weird!). We have to put her in her crate downstairs to come upstairs and bd. Takes a bit of the spontaneity out of things, ha.

 

[mlm115]

I'm a little confused- I got af on Saturday and had what seemed like a normal cycle for 4 days. Day 5 and 6 I had basically nothing (maybe a little spotting). Now today I have bright red blood again. Did this happen to you at all? I thought af was over, darn!

 

[GI_Jane]

I'm a little confused- I got af on Saturday and had what seemed like a normal cycle for 4 days. Day 5 and 6 I had basically nothing (maybe a little spotting). Now today I have bright red blood again. Did this happen to you at all? I thought af was over, darn!

Ah that's crap mlm, not got any experience of this sorry.

 

[jessandaj]

My cat is totally like that to if we don't close the door. There's been many times when i would look beside me during intimate time and there was my freaking cat...how sexy lol

 

[GI_Jane]

Got to love the pets though, love being the first one home and she's so happy to see me- usually for food.

Welcome to the thread jess. Where are you this cycle?

Mlm has af stopped now? Pain in the butt since you were gearing up to start the SMEP.

My CM has all but dried up so that's me out this cycle oh well at least it was a quick one so hurry up af so I can start the next one...still want my bfp for cristmas.

 

[bobster]

Welcome Jessandaj

Jane- you still have time to ovulate don't worry. Am I right in thinking you normally ovulate on cd 27?? If you will ovulate at normal time you have loads of time left. I really have a feeling its not happened yet as you've not had much ewcm... I know in my cycles which are also quite long I sometimes get bits and bats of ewcm which dries up and then comes in abundance on the day I actually O so I think you still have time to get opk's if you are worried. At least if you don't get a +'ve around cd 27 you will know it was probably earlier. Just a thought.

What makes you think you are out anyway? Have you not been bd'ing much? Both cycles I got bfp I didn't bd much at all and thought I was out so you never know.

MLM- what a pain with your bleeding! I haven't had this either.. bodies are so confusing after mc its such a pain. Are you going to postpone smep for a bit longer?

Mack, how are you doing? when do you have your next hcg bloods?

I am on day 4 of soy today- hoping this will bring forward ovulation date. Bleeding as heavily as a regular af now but minus the cramps which is nice. I really really hope this is our month ladies... what a fab christmas pressie a sticky bfp would be!!!

Off-subject - Went to look around the shops today and there are loads of lovely wintery clothes out there but no money as bought OH a surprise Ipad for xmas- torture!!!

 

[bobster]

I'm so glad to share all these thoughts with you ladies! Tis a lovely thread thanks for starting it Jane

 

[mlm115]

Af seems to have stopped for me - I guess she decided to show up for a couple extra hours and thats it. So strange, but whatever. I am CD 8 today, so starting smep today! (Although I think I technically started it 2 days ago, as the digital opks have you start testing on cd5?) I'm trying to not get overly excited, but I am just really hoping it works for us this month!

Jane - I feel like whenever anyone says that they are out for this cycle, they end up getting a bfp . Maybe that will happen for you!

Bobster - Glad you are feeling well and not crampy. You also gave me the idea to get DH an iPad for Christmas, thanks : )

 

[mlm115]

Also, hello and welcome to Jess!

 

[GI_Jane]

Welcome Jessandaj

Jane- you still have time to ovulate don't worry. Am I right in thinking you normally ovulate on cd 27?? If you will ovulate at normal time you have loads of time left. I really have a feeling its not happened yet as you've not had much ewcm... I know in my cycles which are also quite long I sometimes get bits and bats of ewcm which dries up and then comes in abundance on the day I actually O so I think you still have time to get opk's if you are worried. At least if you don't get a +'ve around cd 27 you will know it was probably earlier. Just a thought.

What makes you think you are out anyway? Have you not been bd'ing much? Both cycles I got bfp I didn't bd much at all and thought I was out so you never know.

MLM- what a pain with your bleeding! I haven't had this either.. bodies are so confusing after mc its such a pain. Are you going to postpone smep for a bit longer?

Mack, how are you doing? when do you have your next hcg bloods?

I am on day 4 of soy today- hoping this will bring forward ovulation date. Bleeding as heavily as a regular af now but minus the cramps which is nice. I really really hope this is our month ladies... what a fab christmas pressie a sticky bfp would be!!!

Off-subject - Went to look around the shops today and there are loads of lovely wintery clothes out there but no money as bought OH a surprise Ipad for xmas- torture!!!

Hey bobster, thanks for the reassurance. As much as I'm trying to keep an open mind about TTC and not put too much pressure on myself, I guess deep down I really want this and am reading too much into signs or not of o..

For months we talked of TTC but I wasn't 100% sure I wanted kids (just yet or ever) so we were not trying but not preventing. The month we got our bfp was the first month we actually timed bd to coincide with o and we were in Venice on holiday too so was all romantic. After getting a bfp and then the loss I no longer have any doubts about wanting children. Plus there are so many threads about how cycles have changed since a loss I just want to think the worst so I'm not disappointed if I am out this cycle. Cd 27 is indeed my usual o day and that is next saturday so we'll see what happens!

Oh I love iPads, I'm on DH ones now! What a lovely gift, I hope you can give him a stick you've wee'd on too!

How do you take the soy, is it tablet or like soy milk?

 

[bobster]

lol yes I hope to give him a stick i've wee'd on too!!!

I can understand why you prefer to think the worst. I am like that too now after the 2 losses. I'm glad you know what you want now. Although its awful for it to happen to anyone something positive came from it if you now know how you feel about starting a family.

The soy is in vitamin (capsule) form. Its meant to act like a natural clomid and it helps to induce ovulation or bring it forward for those with long cycles. I do ovulate on my own but my cycles are relatively long and I was worried that might effect the quality of my eggs. I suppose I just want to feel i'm 'doing something' to help things along.

I will keep my fingers crossed for you that on Saturday you have mega ovulation signs.

MLM- I bought the ipad from the apple website, its a reconditioned one as I couldn't afford a new one but they are meant to be as new. They also have a year guarantee if bought from there. I didn't know what to get him and thought it was a good 'boys toy'. So exciting that you are starting SMEP now!!! CD 5 seems so early for using digi opk's though, I hope you've stocked up on them. Does the day you should start them depend on your normal cycle length?

 

[mackjess]

Jane, I was exactly the same about not being sure.

mlm, numbers ok. No more bloodwork and my first appt to hear the heartbeat is 11/29

 

[bobster]

Wow Mack that's great! How exciting! Keep us posted as to how it goes

 

[GI_Jane]

lol yes I hope to give him a stick i've wee'd on too!!!

I can understand why you prefer to think the worst. I am like that too now after the 2 losses. I'm glad you know what you want now. Although its awful for it to happen to anyone something positive came from it if you now know how you feel about starting a family.

The soy is in vitamin (capsule) form. Its meant to act like a natural clomid and it helps to induce ovulation or bring it forward for those with long cycles. I do ovulate on my own but my cycles are relatively long and I was worried that might effect the quality of my eggs. I suppose I just want to feel i'm 'doing something' to help things along.

I will keep my fingers crossed for you that on Saturday you have mega ovulation signs.

MLM- I bought the ipad from the apple website, its a reconditioned one as I couldn't afford a new one but they are meant to be as new. They also have a year guarantee if bought from there. I didn't know what to get him and thought it was a good 'boys toy'. So exciting that you are starting SMEP now!!! CD 5 seems so early for using digi opk's though, I hope you've stocked up on them. Does the day you should start them depend on your normal cycle length?

I will look into soy. I was taking Angus castus until a couple of days ago which is meant to do the same as soy but in the past and this time as well I've had to stop it as I feel really really low when I take it. I'm on a low dose anti-depressant and I think it must interact or something. Maybe the soy will be a better option for me. Did you get from holland and Barrett?

I understand that feeling of wanting to do something to help bobster. The Angus castus was meant to help regulate progesterone etc too and is recommended for ladies with PCOS like me but I just can't stand how it makes me feel.

So I was thinking, if we get a bfp, do you think in the uk we will be able to get our bloods monitored early on like how mackjess was able? I got the impression when I first told my GP I was pregnant it was a matter of waiting it out until your first appointment at 10-12 weeks..... I know there are early pregnancy units but with my loss I wasn't reffered to one as it was too early,- do you think they offer early blood work (just thinking ahead).....but as my GP said, there is nothing they can do if it looks like we are losing it so I guess the NHS won't waste resources on that if you are only a few weeks gone. Whats the deal up in York bobster?

 

[mlm115]

With my pregnancy my dr didn't do any monitoring until my 8 week appointment (which obviously didn't go too well). Im going in for a follow up appt on 11/26, so will ask then if they do anything different after you've had a loss. Seems like my dr does things the same way they do in the UK.

I'm having a little bit of a down day today. It is my birthday, and I'm sad that I'm another year older and have no baby, and I was supposed to be in my 2nd trimester by now. Blah.

 

[GI_Jane]

I'm having a little bit of a down day today. It is my birthday, and I'm sad that I'm another year older and have no baby, and I was supposed to be in my 2nd trimester by now. Blah.

Happy birthday Mlm. It's a mixed bag of emotions after a loss isn't it, I don't think we'll ever forget. Hugs.x

 

[bobster]

Jane I bought mine from Tesco which were about £4 but on 3 for 2. I took my last dose last night and didn't have any side effects. It might be worth checking with your doctor to see if they are safe with your antidepressant though.

For my first mc I went to epu in York and they monitored my hcg every other day but not progesterone. When I asked about that they said they didn't do that test so god knows

The second time I went to GP and she refused to even do a hcg and said the same as your doctor. I feel like they just want to fob you off sometimes. My epu wouldn't take anyone under 6 weeks however they base it on your last menstrual cycle so if you have a longer one like us they always assume you are further on so will probably see you.

I think next time I will just go private as soon as I get a bfp. I want my progesterone checking as thats a well known cause of early mc so I just don't know why they don't test it... so frustrating!