I've got my anti-witch spray!

[giraffes]

Good luck with the softcups! I've used the clearblue digi opk and I'm with Wishin, the smiley face is almost as good as a bfp - it's certainly the closest I've got anyway!! My cycles are a bit all over the place so it's nice for me to know when it's going to happen so that we can put some extra effort in

My hubby is a doctor and he keeps going on about how it's totally normal for it to take a year (which I haven't taken very well whenever he's said it to me) but we'll see what the specialist says on Monday.

Nats - good luck with all the visitors, I've been stocking the freezer with meals in advance to cut down what I have to cook when we have visitors - found an a,azing celery and stilton soup recipe that I did on Friday mmmmmm

 

[DooDah]

Hey ladies Sorry that I've been MIA. My laptop decided to break... before christmas!

Anyway I'm glad you're all approaching OV time

Well as you know I'd just begun the pill again but I've been having quite serious reactions to it...

Soo happy (not about the pain etc) but it means that OH has suggested ntnp again! We'll have to use the pull out but never mind! It's still better than the whole 'contraception' thing

and for this cycle!!

 

[firsttimer30]

Good Morning Ladies!!!!! Well today is the day I go in for an U/S to check the size of Follicles, so I am hoping that I will get a BFP before Christmas...Looking forward to the TTW with you all...... Wishing you all the Best, with LOTS of Baby Dust!!!!!

 

[wishnhoping]

firsttimer - good luck and keep us posted! what cd are u? is anyone in here in their tww yet? Mine starts next monday...supposed to o sunday

So one of the BnB girls posted the following:

"I went to dinner at a friend's last night and another couple was there and the man was a reproductive endocronologist! I was actually able to steer the conversation around to some rather personal issues, but he seemed very happy to discuss his specialty. This is what he told me about the question of how often to BD. The optimal way to get PG is to ABSTAIN for at least three days and then BD on the peak day and the next day. He says that a normal man can make enough sperm in one day to replenish his supply enough to get a woman pregnant in just one day once, but he can't do that day after day. He said BDing every day starting after AF ends and waiting for the temp rise is a bad strategy because after 2 or 3 days of BDing the sperm count starts dropping and there won't be enough, usually, to get PG after a week or so of doing it every night. He said almost a quarter of the couples who come to him get PG a few months after their first visit after he has them change their strategy. His advice is to use OPKs, abstain after day 7 or 8, wait for the OPK to go positive, and the BD that night, and the next night and the third night if you want to. The third night was sort of optional. But the important thing is to try to abstain for at least 3 days before the night when you are most likely to get PG, either the night of a positive OPK test or the one or two nights before your temps go high if you can predict that from CM or past charts."


Now m question is...Ive been told that you are more likely to get a BFP if you BD the day before you get a positive OPK so the spermies are there waiting when the egg drops...the above article kind of counter acts that...so now what? what is everyone's take on it? My plan this month is to BD cd17, 18,19.....with O day supposedly being cd18...so essentially the day before day of, and day after ...also asked hubby to abstain from sex and masterbating (sorry tmi) until those days so his sperm are nice and refreshed...

 

[nats77]

can i have a rant??
i'm really sorry but i just need to get it out!! i'm soooo fed up right now, me and oh have been arguing allllllllllllllllllll day! we never argue really, the only other time we argued alot was when i kept miscarrying and i put that down to the pressure and the emotions, but now i dont know what's going on??
He was even threating to leave earlier! i was like "see ya then" i'm so angry right now i could scream! and to top it all off i'm supposed to be ovulating round about now as well, well there's no chance that we will be dtd, so i guess that counts me out for this month, although maybe thats for the best if we're rowing like this?? who knows?? i'm very confused, very stressed out and very sad
sorry girls just needed to vent xxxx

 

[linz143]

Wishn - they say that an opk goes + 12-36 hours before you ov so I would imagine that if you were to bd that night, they would still have enough time to get there. I heard some figure that it takes approx 2 hours for them to make the journey to the tubes where they'll wait for the eggie.

Nats - DH and I had a rough months a couple months ago. Even worse, I was in the tww and wondering if it was bad enough for him to leave and I could possibly have been pregnant. Of course we are moving on and are trying to work through things. I can't believe how emotional and immature men are. I guess I never noticed until I got married how much DH relies on me coddling and petting his ego for him to be happy. Eventually when we had a sit down and calm talk about it, he said that all he really wanted was for me to tell him how much I wanted and needed him and fight for him to stay to show how much I loved him, when in reality the moment he acted like he was unsure about us I told him to let me know once he figured that out.

Whatever the issue is, know that we all go through it. One month of poorly timed bd'ing will not make a difference in the long run. If you don't get to it, then just take the next two weeks to really focus on sorting out the issue and resolving it once you have both calmed down.

 

[wishnhoping]

Nats- So sorry about fight with DH...we go thorugh that a lot too...I cant provide much support or advice besides waht Linz said but sending you a big hug!

Linz- Do you think I should forgoe BD the day before positive OPK then to make sure the "boys" are up and ready for the long trip? haha...

So this is not my last month trying to conceive...but this is my last month being totally nuts about it. We really wanted a summer baby and this is kind of it...If I got preggo this month we'd be due first week of September and if this baby decides to follow his big brother he/she could arrive 2 weeks early and be an August baby...so here's hoping...

after this I am still going to use OPKs but def wont be as stressed out about this being the month...Ill go back to how it was with first DS where we just BD whenever and finally got preggo (i guess thats kinda NTNP except we'll be more aware of O time where as last time I had no clue about ovulation at all haha)

Ok so I keep having really long posts...sorry

firsttimer- howd it go at the docs?

 

[firsttimer30]

I am CD12 and the ultrasound showed that I have 1 on each side, so I will trigger tonight and hope for the best....I have a 26 day cycle so I am hoping that I get a BFP right before Christmas....

 

[nats77]

Thanks linz and wishn, I feel a bit better now, we're still not speaking he's on the sofa tonight lol. I'm sure it will all blow over Thanks for listening though or reading rather xxx

 

[linz143]

Hey firsttimer - so when you trigger, how long does it take for the egg to release? Also, if you have one on each side and you trigger, does it release both or just one? Fx'd for a xmas BFP!

Wishn - if you can do the day before a + OPK and the day of, I would go for that. If you can only pin point one day in the fertile window that DH will be ready to BD, I would do it the day you get a +OPK. Just my opinion!

Also, I wanted to let you ladies know something that seems different for me this month (even though I'm trying my best to NOT get preg this month!). So I started feeling a sore throat and bad sinus pressure Friday night and immediately popped a Mucinex that was leftover from when DH was sick last month. I've kept up the dose all weekend and even this morning since I'm still symptomatic and feeling crappy. HOWEVER, Saturday morning I had a TON of EWCM. Then more on Sunday, and then just a little this morning. I've heard that Mucinex (due to it's thinning of sinus mucus) can do the same for CM, and boy is that right. I usually see it around my fertile time, but not as much as this month. So if anyone is looking for something to try to get more EWCM, go buy some Mucinex.

 

[wishnhoping]

Linz I know you are NTNP but where are you in your cycle? I heard that some girls take mucinex for that same reason without cold symptoms lol

I have my yearly exam on Monday Dec 19th which is 1dpo...gonna ask her for tips then..cant wait! lol itll be too late for this cycle but something I have been wanting to talk to her about is my lutal phase, I am usualy on a 28 day cycle and dont O until cd18 leaving me with a 10 day lutal phase..which is ok but bordering on the short side...wonder what shell say

 

[firsttimer30]

I took trigger @ 7 so the eggs will release anywhere between 24 & 36 hrs, And yes both will release and both could become fertilized,(which would be amazing). So by wednesday I should have some swimmers waiting on 2 eggies... I am hoping that Christmas Eve I will get the greatest gift...When does everyone start their TTW?

 

[peachy905]

Hello ladies! Does anyone know if it is okay to have dental exams taken during the time that I should be OVing? Do the xrays throw anything off?

 

[linz143]

Linz I know you are NTNP but where are you in your cycle? I heard that some girls take mucinex for that same reason without cold symptoms lol

Yeah I was planning on WTT at least for December so I could be 100% sure I was not preg for our trip to Hawaii next month, but then I think I ovulated today. It's CD12 for me and I ov anywhere from CD 12-16, which averages 14. My LP is 13-15 days, which also averages 14, so I'm one of those women they talk about with an average 28 day cycle.

However, we bd'd on Friday since I wasn't planning on ov till around the 14th. Well that means that we bd'd on O-3, which is not unheard of for getting pregnant. I put that statistic into FF today on the search and it came back something like 25% of women who only bd on O-3 got a BFP. As opposed to bd on O-3, O-2, O-1, O, and O+1 had something like a 40% chance of a BFP.

Anyway, so despite my best efforts, I'm in, lol.

 

[giraffes]

Nats - sorry to hear you've been fighting, hopefully a night on the sofa will have helped him see what he's missing and how much he loves you. TTC is soo stressful, it's not surprising that it blows up occasionally. Big hugs.

Linz - the CM thing happened to me last month with cough syrup, I've never had so much of it!!

Firsttimer - So exciting that it's looking so good for you, fingers crossed for a Christmas BFP

Peachy - dental xrays should be totally fine, the level of radiation is tiny and shouldn't do anything for ovulation.

 

[giraffes]

Argh, accidentally hit send (such a muppet!)

As for me, I had my appointment with the fertility lady yesterday, who was fantastic. She was so thorough and kind and took loads of time with us. She's doing blood tests on me, a SA for hubby and I'm to have an HSG in week 2 of my next cycle, which she thinks will show that my tubes are blocked. And if it does, she's not going to bother doing anything else but send us straight for IVF. Our next appointment is in Feb, by which time we should have some answers. I feel really good to know we have a plan, and thankfully hubby seemed ok with both the SA and IVF! He had in the past muttered that he didn't think he could do IVF for ethical reasons (!!!) which I have got very upset about in the past so clearly that's had an effect!

So we get to carry on as we are for now (I'll still be symptom spotting despite the low chances) and want to see lots of you get those BFPs soon xxxx

 

[nats77]

thanks giraffes, i thought it would all blow over but not so sure now, tried talking it thru this morning and we ended up screaming at each other, so i guess it's just watch this space!!! def out this month though, o nearly over and def no bd going on lol xxx

hope all works out for you giraffes xx

 

[giraffes]

Sorry to hear things are still pants this morning Nats. Do you have anyone who could have your 3 little uns for a day or a weekend so you could go somewhere nice just the two of you? A date somewhere? Before we got married we had to go to marriage preparation classes at our church (I thought it was going to be awful but it was actually quite fun!). One of the things that they said which really stuck in my head was that if you are a couple who never argues then when you do, it's the end of the world. Whereas some couples argue all the time and it doesn't affect them. They weren't trying to say which was right but jsut to be aware. We never argue either so on the very rare occasions it's so horrible and I hate it, so it does help me to think back to this.

Good luck xxxx

 

[nats77]

aww giraffes ur so sweet, thank you. My mum would have the kids for me, (shes amazing) but we're both out this weekend anyway, seperately! i'm out with the girls and he's out with the guy's from work, i'll just keepout of his way for a while and see if things calm down, Thanks hun, i'll keep u updated lol xx

 

[linz143]

Hey firsttimer, I confirmed it this morning. I am back in the tww. 1 dpo today. Temperature shot up this morning! So much for WTT.