June Jitterbugs- 2013, 51 babies born 27 boys, 24 girls (145 on the Way)

[KBrain3377]

I was thinking exactly the same tashalina. It must be awful having to think about cost before u go docs. In the uk we go for coughs and colds. Especially with little ones. We r very lucky xx

i agree... here in canada we can go in for anything and in ontario OHIP covers it all ... i never would have been able to afford to have my son if i had to pay ... i cant imagine what it would be like to have to pay for doctors visits ...i find myself often giving advice to the american ladies to go to emerge and forget they have to pay to go we ARE very lucky !!

Just from a different perspective...... today when I was in the waiting room, I was listening to a conversation of two women, one woman who lives in the UK (she's American and works there) and another one who lives in Italy (her husband was transferred there, not sure what her origin was). Both women were saying that they have access to "free" healthcare in Europe but both come here (to Chicago! a far way to go) to get care, especially for any kind of complications or problems. I was very interested and asked them both why - both of them replied that the level of care is far superior. Granted, this office I go to is one of the top REs in the country, but I think this makes a really important point. Everyone knocks American health care, but if you have insurance, which most people that I know do - it's the best in the world, as far as I'm concerned. And just so people realize - there is no such think as FREE health care - you pay for it, I pay for it, we all pay for it. In Europe and Canada, people pay for it through much higher taxes. Here in the States, we pay for it through insurance premiums. Personally, I'm very happy with the quality and access to care that we have here and would not trade it for "free" care anywhere else.

 

[Logan's Mum]

Hello!

Haven't posted in here for a few days, things are plodding on nicely

I've got a date for my scan, 3rd December, when I will be 13 weeks + 3 days Im too excited to wait that long! Ah well, I saw Logan at 13-14 weeks (tested late) so thats quite cool. I was worried if I saw the bean at 12 weeks they might look a whole lot different than Logan did which might worry me. Im seeing my Mum before the scan so will have to tell her Im pg, as she will be able to tell anyway

Hope everyone enjoys the weekend!

 

[NykolaS]

Hey. I am Nikki. I am due on the 1st of June

 

[Lisasmith]

I was thinking exactly the same tashalina. It must be awful having to think about cost before u go docs. In the uk we go for coughs and colds. Especially with little ones. We r very lucky xx

i agree... here in canada we can go in for anything and in ontario OHIP covers it all ... i never would have been able to afford to have my son if i had to pay ... i cant imagine what it would be like to have to pay for doctors visits ...i find myself often giving advice to the american ladies to go to emerge and forget they have to pay to go we ARE very lucky !!

Just from a different perspective...... today when I was in the waiting room, I was listening to a conversation of two women, one woman who lives in the UK (she's American and works there) and another one who lives in Italy (her husband was transferred there, not sure what her origin was). Both women were saying that they have access to "free" healthcare in Europe but both come here (to Chicago! a far way to go) to get care, especially for any kind of complications or problems. I was very interested and asked them both why - both of them replied that the level of care is far superior. Granted, this office I go to is one of the top REs in the country, but I think this makes a really important point. Everyone knocks American health care, but if you have insurance, which most people that I know do - it's the best in the world, as far as I'm concerned. And just so people realize - there is no such think as FREE health care - you pay for it, I pay for it, we all pay for it. In Europe and Canada, people pay for it through much higher taxes. Here in the States, we pay for it through insurance premiums. Personally, I'm very happy with the quality and access to care that we have here and would not trade it for "free" care anywhere else.

We have free healthcare here and we have access to world class doctors, surgeons and specialists.

 

[Kendi]

anyone knows benefits of water birth? would you reccommend?

 

[Kendi]

Hey. I am Nikki. I am due on the 1st of June

Congrats and welcome, we share the due date based on my last scan

 

[AdriansMama]

i have never had a problem with the health care here in canada ... and ive never heard of anyone leaving here to go to the states for medical care :S im sure we dont pay much higher taxes or the US wouldnt be trying to figure out a way to work a similar health care system ... i actually get around $1500 back at tax time rather than owing...

 

[jewelsbaby81]

anyone knows benefits of water birth? would you reccommend?

I work in a neonatal intensive care unit and nothing scared me more than home births and water births.... I would not recommend it....in my profession I have seen many bad outcomes.....Just my opinion though

 

[Medzi]

I've never had issues with the health care here in Canada either. I have kidney disease and have never felt I wasn't getting the care I needed (I've had surgeries, been flown by helicopter, and have been in the hospital for months at a time - I've never seen a medical bill). I do know of one friend of mine who went to the USA for care, but he had terminal cancer and they wanted to try an experimental treatment that was only in Texas so they went. Other than that, no reason to go to the USA. For me though, knowing my medical history, it takes a ton of stress off knowing I don't have to worry about medical bills. And I don't feel like the care I have gotten here is bad because it is "free". We have excellent doctors, surgeons, and specialists. Actually, my nephrologist went to school in the USA.

My husband is actually American and there are pros and cons to both systems for sure. We do pay higher taxes here, but it is comforting to know that we never have to worry about qualifying or pre-existing conditions or still having insurance but still sometimes have to pay a fee or worrying about not even having insurance.

 

[Medzi]

I had another scan today - that's my third! Baby was measuring perfectly and was moving around like crazy. My RE wanted to see me one last time before he released me to my obgyn, and he said why not do another scan as long as I was there (I just had one done last week!). He also told me about a new test, called the Maternity 21, which is non invasive, and can be done to replace the CVS, and is 98% accurate. He said it just came out last year and is a decade in the making - he highly recommended it. I will meet with my obgyn in two weeks to discuss and schedule whatever tests we decide on, but from what I'm reading about the Maternity 21 sounds pretty awesome. So glad I live in a major medical city, I guess this test is not yet offered everywhere.

Also, I can't believe there are ladies on here that haven't had a scan done yet - hang in there! It's just cruel to make people wait so long.

Yay! Love your photo

 

[StefNJunk]

anyone knows benefits of water birth? would you reccommend?

I work in a neonatal intensive care unit and nothing scared me more than home births and water births.... I would not recommend it....in my profession I have seen many bad outcomes.....Just my opinion though

What bad outcomes have you seen from water births? They've always interested me and are an option at the birthing center I'm going to.

 

[Lisasmith]

anyone knows benefits of water birth? would you reccommend?

I work in a neonatal intensive care unit and nothing scared me more than home births and water births.... I would not recommend it....in my profession I have seen many bad outcomes.....Just my opinion though

What bad outcomes have you seen from water births? They've always interested me and are an option at the birthing center I'm going to.

I've never seen a bad outcome that related directly to a water birth research is the key

 

[NDH]

Steph I'm so jealous of that birthing centre just opened up near you. Sounds ideal to me. I have an American friend who used birthing centre midwives for a homebirth and she was saying that as a birthing centre patient had she needed a transfer to hospital it would have been a lot cheaper than going to hospital first. She didn't have insurance either. A natural birth is totally doable as a first timer, absolutely. Especially in a setting where you have people supporting your intentions of one and not pushing an induction or an epidural. Plus birthing centres don't have NO pain relief, just not epis and c-sections.
I was induced but had no pain relief, not even gas or tylenol. Do lots of research and trust your body.

I'm hoping for a water birth this time around. My hospital didn't allow them last time but they were changing g policy. Plus if they still aren't "allowed" every room has a pool to labour in and I've heard of several ladies who have had water births anyway cause they're not allowed to physically remove you to push if you can't/won't get out. They look so peaceful and relaxing and water is good pain relief. I only labored in water for an hour though cause I had back labour and just couldn't get comfortable.

 

[Seren0613]

EDD keeps changing, most recent is 6/18, though.

 

[CottlestonPie]

When people say natural birth... Do you mean no induction, no intervention and no pain relief?
With my little man I went into labour naturally (waters broke and contractions were immediately 1-1.5 minutes apart), but then I did have gas up until I started pushing and was also cut as baby was struggling to get out. So I guess that part wasn't natural!

I think this time around I'm going to do some perineal massage to help prevent episiotomy again but I'll totally take the gas again lol

 

[NDH]

"Natural birth" is a widely varying term lol. Some people use it to simply mean a vaginal delivery no matter what, to others it means no drugs. Hadn't considered induction before but I suppose it goes along with that hey? I wanted to avoid induction but ended up with one due to decells. It wasn't too bad but I hope not to have another.

 

[2ndtimeluckyX]

To me a natural birth means a vaginal delivery, no matter what pain relief you choose

 

[Mellie1988]

I consider a normal birth to be vaginal delivery with no complications so no forceps/ventouse delivery.

I call people who don't have any pain relief....absolute saints!!! there's no way I could have no pain relief at all! I had gas and air with both my LOs....petrified of epidural and don't really like the thought of not being in control to push etc so that's never been an option for me!

This time round I hope to have a water birth or at least labour in pool and get out of I need to! Also plan to have my trusty friend gas and air with me haha!

Found bubs HB yesterday morning at 166bpm yay! Tried again today to record it....can I find the little monkey again?? NOPE lol

Also wanted to say I feel fantastic at last, yay!! Sickness has disappeared pretty much, seem to be getting over the constant tiredness....my sore boobs are very much still with me tho ! Thought I would share and say that there IS light at the end of the tunnel

Hope everyone is okay and having a nice weekend, no real plans for this weekend, I've been working this morning, OH has been busy putting a new wall cupboard up in kitchen, building a gate for the side of our house and putting our new door bell up....yay, he's a gudden ! Gonna chill out this afternoon, kids are playing nicely with jigsaws so think I'm gonna catch up on some tellie! Gotta sister and nephew coming tomorrow, that's about it! Gotta love chilled out weekends!

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[ProudArmyWife]

If the epidural is done correctly you are actually still in control i could feel when my contractions where and when i needed to push i actually ended up telling my nurse i was having one but with everything not every woman reacts the same to epidurals. i do agree with you though the ones who do it 100% pain relief free are saints!

 

[jewelsbaby81]

A babies first instinct upon birth is to cry......if a baby does that while being born under water they will aspirate (inhale the water into their lungs). I have seen babies admitted for pneumonia....and I have seen babies die from this. I have seen babies adnitted from home that were nuchal cords (where the cord wraps around the babies neck), meconium aspirations, babies that got stuck and mothers had to come in for crash c/s (where babies dont survive). 90% of home births(and hospital births) will go just fine 10% wont. Doing my line of work my babies will be born in the best hospital with the best NICU because to me the ultimate goal of delivery is getting mg babies into this world safely whatever means necessary. You can have a "natural" birth in a hospital where just in case something does go wrong their is proper care for you and your baby.