Kate McCann releasing a book...

[Harveysmum369]

The grandmother said 'that girl knew how to throw a tantrum'

 

[Tasha]

The day after they had a team of layers flown in, costing thousands. No one knows who paid for them and why they where there. Immediately they landed. They also weirdly had leaflets printed off on the night she disappeared from a printer they said that was in hotel and it wasnt. Maddy was also heard crying for help for 72 mins yet they said they checked her every half hour.Hotel staff heard her crying (why no one went to see if she was ok is beyond me but thats society they ignore children in need. ) Why did the twins not wake from this crying? The mccanns also refused a drugs test on them . Also lied and said social services said it was reasonable they left their children alone. Not to mentioned the dogs who have never been wrong picking up the scent by the window, wardrobe in bedroom, kates top, garys trousers, flower bed in front of the apartment, car key, car door, boot of car. kate also insisted she get cuddle cat washed asap. Surely if your childs last thing she touched before missing was that cuddle toy and they also believed the adducted you wouldnt be wanting it in the wash. 2 months later maddies dna was in a car they rented. Their mates where in the apartment after she went missing and messed up the crime scene, then they all went to bed? not one of them went looking for her or her parents. they knew she was dead. even her blood was on the wall and floor of apartment. If any one thinks they are totally innocent then its ignorance. I dont think they murdered her but they have covered up something that did happen. I think she fell while trying to get out of that apartment,. Also cardervine takes 2 hours to leave a scent somewhere so she was dead for more than 2 hours in that apartment. They resort also confirmed no one had ever died in that apartment . Also instead of actually looking for their daughter both them where in Rome next day with the pope? and soon as the pope found out they could be accused the Vatican pulled all support out.

The 72 minutes was another night, and the hotel got the parents so they did help in a way.

I wonder if one of the 'tapa's 9' will crack at some point. I could never cover this up, but if I did I imagine I couldnt keep living with it forever.

Cardervine can take from 90 minutes. On a child it is likely to be the smallest amount of time because everything happens quicker (sorry).

When Maddie was heard crying 'Daddy!Daddy' was Gerry there??I hope to god they weren't her last moments...

I dont think so. I do not believe it was murder in that sense, I think they gave her medicine to sedate her, she woke all stumbly and went looking for her parents. She climbed on the sofa to look out the window for them not realising there was a gap between the wall and the sofa, fell between hitting her head on the way down, knocking her out and then she died there

 

[Dragonfly]

I dont think so, she was crying for her dad all right. He was at tappis and they picked the furthest table away that obscured the apparently with trees. They came back and immediate said she was abducted yet they had left doors and windows unlocked. They insisted she was taken away. Not wandered off. Gerry also went out and roared in the street like a bull when he found out which was unusual behavior it was commented. One of the neighbours said she seen a man carry a child in to a car, they said this was their abducted yet that same neighbour was shocked when she seen Gerry carry one of the twins in the same way in to the car after that to. Its mentioned in that link I posted. They also said that her eye was a great marketing ploy in an interview, and they where told not to highlight her eye as that could get her killed faster . I personally want justice for Maddie. From the minute I seen this my suspicion sparked years ago. They where playing tennis, drinking coffee like nothing had happened and was reported they where getting on with it. Errm why arnt you out looking? that was long before any of the evidence came to light.

 

[Dragonfly]

The day after they had a team of layers flown in, costing thousands. No one knows who paid for them and why they where there. Immediately they landed. They also weirdly had leaflets printed off on the night she disappeared from a printer they said that was in hotel and it wasnt. Maddy was also heard crying for help for 72 mins yet they said they checked her every half hour.Hotel staff heard her crying (why no one went to see if she was ok is beyond me but thats society they ignore children in need. ) Why did the twins not wake from this crying? The mccanns also refused a drugs test on them . Also lied and said social services said it was reasonable they left their children alone. Not to mentioned the dogs who have never been wrong picking up the scent by the window, wardrobe in bedroom, kates top, garys trousers, flower bed in front of the apartment, car key, car door, boot of car. kate also insisted she get cuddle cat washed asap. Surely if your childs last thing she touched before missing was that cuddle toy and they also believed the adducted you wouldnt be wanting it in the wash. 2 months later maddies dna was in a car they rented. Their mates where in the apartment after she went missing and messed up the crime scene, then they all went to bed? not one of them went looking for her or her parents. they knew she was dead. even her blood was on the wall and floor of apartment. If any one thinks they are totally innocent then its ignorance. I dont think they murdered her but they have covered up something that did happen. I think she fell while trying to get out of that apartment,. Also cardervine takes 2 hours to leave a scent somewhere so she was dead for more than 2 hours in that apartment. They resort also confirmed no one had ever died in that apartment . Also instead of actually looking for their daughter both them where in Rome next day with the pope? and soon as the pope found out they could be accused the Vatican pulled all support out.

The 72 minutes was another night, and the hotel got the parents so they did help in a way.

I wonder if one of the 'tapa's 9' will crack at some point. I could never cover this up, but if I did I imagine I couldnt keep living with it forever.

Cardervine can take from 90 minutes. On a child it is likely to be the smallest amount of time because everything happens quicker (sorry).

When Maddie was heard crying 'Daddy!Daddy' was Gerry there??I hope to god they weren't her last moments...

I dont think so. I do not believe it was murder in that sense, I think they gave her medicine to sedate her, she woke all stumbly and went looking for her parents. She climbed on the sofa to look out the window for them not realising there was a gap between the wall and the sofa, fell between hitting her head on the way down, knocking her out and then she died there

sorry its been a while since I read that link, and took me a while over a few weeks as i have no concentration with kids.

I believe she fell from the sofa to. Its far more believable with the evidence. But without a body there is no crime. (to some)They are now hindering the investigation in to her body I think? someone who has looked in to this spent a lot thinks its buried near the apartment. I have to look that up again.

 

[Tasha]

sorry its been a while since I read that link, and took me a while over a few weeks as i have no concentration with kids.

I believe she fell from the sofa to. Its far more believable with the evidence. But without a body there is no crime. (to some)They are now hindering the investigation in to her body I think? someone who has looked in to this spent a lot thinks its buried near the apartment. I have to look that up again.

I am still reading the link, because it was freaking me out in the dark. I have a vivid imagine at night and horrible things were flashing before me so I stopped and watched eastenders.

It is much more believable, like why did they push the sofa back when it hadnt been and so on?

Yes the man with the scanner believes he knows where she is.

 

[Donna35]

Just reading on that group Donna. Some of them are just being blindly led, blaming the media for your opinon when the media prints nothing but good about the mccanns, asking how you got the police files - errr maybe cos they were released years ago. They've really not looked into at all.

Just saw that thanks hun. I've replied to them. Think it's only a matter of hours before I'm banned from that group lol

 

[Donna35]

I think you should all join the FB group I'm in now and air your view to these people so they don't think I'm just one 'crackpot'

 

[faun]

I have always felt they know a lot more then they are saying i'm not convinced they murdered maddie but they did cover up the truth. There is far to much conflicting evidence for their "abduction" story to be real the cadaver dogs especially make for some very chilling reading. The excuses, the refusal to answer questions, the jetting off to other countries away from new leads, the visit to the pope it all makes me question their involvement. Even if they didn't cover anyhting up and she was abducted for whatever reason it is 100% their fault they left the kids alone for hours at a time in a strange country so they could get pissed with their mates. Why take children on holiday to ignore them? Just because it is common in some circles doesn't make it right!

I really hope that the truth will come out one day so that the twins get some closure as their whole life they have grown up thinking it was just a twist of fate they weren't taken too i'm sure they must feel some guilt even if it is misplaced i know if i was in their shoes i would need some heavy duty counselling probably forever.

 

[Nut_Shake]

Just reading on that group Donna. Some of them are just being blindly led, blaming the media for your opinon when the media prints nothing but good about the mccanns, asking how you got the police files - errr maybe cos they were released years ago. They've really not looked into at all.

Just saw that thanks hun. I've replied to them. Think it's only a matter of hours before I'm banned from that group lol

Some people are just sheep, the media is always right apparently. I wish people looked a bit deeper rather than coming out with things like 'well what evidence do you have that the mcanns are guilty??'. I suppose the only answer to that is 'what evidence do you have that the mcanns are innocent??'. People should read more!! I get some very strange looks when I say I think they are guilty!

 

[Tasha]

To be fair Donna, you are just one crackpot

I thought we were more likely to get kicked off if there is loads of us, whereas you seem to be able to state your opinon and not get kicked off.

 

[Donna35]

The grandmother said 'that girl knew how to throw a tantrum'

Not a very loving way to talk about your beloved missing granddaughter is it? Obviously Mrs Healy is as cold a fish as her daughter

 

[Donna35]

To be fair Donna, you are just one crackpot

I thought we were more likely to get kicked off if there is loads of us, whereas you seem to be able to state your opinon and not get kicked off.

This could be true.

I'm still waiting for my application to join the 'official' Madeleine facebook page to be approved. I have no idea what's taking so long

And yeah I am a crackpot. But a lovable one

 

[Tasha]

The grandmother said 'that girl knew how to throw a tantrum'

Not a very loving way to talk about your beloved missing granddaughter is it? Obviously Mrs Healy is as cold a fish as her daughter

Have you noticed they all talk about her in the past tense. If I was convinced my child was alive, she would talked about in the present tense

 

[faun]

Reading this link https://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/roll-up-roll-up-pg17-25/ that someone posted and i am gobsmacked at how none of the stuff has been properly investigated or even mentioned by the media its like a media blackout of anything bar supportive coverage. So much for freedom of speech i can understand why this would happen in some circumstances but not for the McCaans i mean really they are hardly important or famous so why the special treatment?

 

[Donna35]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/161136570616704/398152020248490/?notif_t=group_comment

They're really not happy with me they're threatening to delete my posts if I keep 'bashing' the McCanns.

My reply to them:

I haven't 'bashed' anybody - all I have done is to present some clear (and true) facts about the McCanns and the case. I've provided links too which show up the discrepancies in their statements. Delete the posts all you wish but know this - that makes you as bad as the McCanns Media Machine who refuse to print anything negative about the McCanns and they also go around deleting websites that show the truth of what happened May 3rd.

 

[Tasha]

They deleted them all Donna. I just wanted too (haha) let you know. Sorry the use of too was because of their latest reply.

 

[Donna35]

They deleted them all Donna. I just wanted too (haha) let you know. Sorry the use of too was because of their latest reply.

They seem to have blocked me too. Can't even find the group. Yet another case of the ProMcCann machine at workthey just cant bear to hear the truth

 

[Sparkes]

The grandmother said 'that girl knew how to throw a tantrum'

Not a very loving way to talk about your beloved missing granddaughter is it? Obviously Mrs Healy is as cold a fish as her daughter

The apple never falls far from the tree.

 

[Tasha]

DOnna you have two accounts

 

[LoraLoo]

Yes the 'horrendous' posts have been removed - thought they said you were entitled to your say?