Kate McCann releasing a book...

[Tasha]

Yes, they all had a lot to lose.

In one interview Kate said we were on holiday with people we knew, then corrected herself and said people we know. So maybe they arent in contact.

Anna, yes I did notcie that.

 

[Jem_x3]

They've always repeated themselves - especially Kate. Gerry seems to go off on tangents and throw hissy fits where as Kate says the exact same things over and over. "There is no evidence to suggest Madeleine has come to any harm" is just an example. It's even written several times in the book. And in the blurb I think? annoying.

 

[moomin_troll]

Maybe I'm naive and I try to see the good in people too much, but I believe that if they had accidentally killed her or whatever, they would have been found out by now. Shes known worldwide - someone would have found a body by now. I also find it hard to believe that they would still be pushing themselves in to the limelight so much, highlighting her abduction after all this time if they had been responsible. There must be some sort of hard evidence to suggest the UK have now reopened the search for her.
At the end of the day, regardless of who did it, theres a missing child out there, possibly dead. Even if her parents were responsible for her abduction/death, we should still be looking.
I think people need to concentrate on that rather then speculating as to how she died/went missing.
Regardless of whose side you believe, the bottom line is the same :
A child is missing.

Madeleine McCann is not the only child missing in this world though! She's not the only British child missing. She's not the only British child missing who's been 'snatched' abroad (Ben Needham...)...I'm not being heartless towards her, but more her parents for making out like they are the only ones in this situation! Hearing them make out that the Government HAS to do something really gets my goat. NO - the Government DOESN'T. Instead of accepting the blame for being in this situation, they are now blaming yet another group of people. I wonder how many years it will take before they run out of people to blame!!!!

I'm sorry but the media/McCanns try to make out that we can help to 'find' Madeleine & 'we should be looking' - implying that if we aren't 'looking' we have failed. They've got a damn cheek as far as I'm concerned considering it's their lack of common sense that got them in this god awful situation!

i agree with u, shes not the only child missing and yet all the media coverage her parents are getting is taking it away from other children who need to be found and other parents who need help.

 

[cupcakekate]

Been reading this entire thread & you ladies definately seem to be piecing things together bit by bit and it's made me very worried about what actually went on that night! I watched the late late show link that was posted and found it really weird.... Gerry is very matter of fact isn't he- I would agree with the others who say he is definately 'in charge'.. I also found it odd that Kate was so defensive about her relationship with her husband, she went on for ages about how they never argued and such, and it was completely off topic to me! Seems like something hit a nerve there...

 

[TattiesMum]

Been reading this thread with interest. I've always thought that Madeleine died in the apartment, but something has been bugging me recently...

A couple of the people on holiday with the McCanns barely knew them, why would they agree to help cover up such a thing? If I was in the same situation, I doubt I'd help cover up the death of a child of a couple I barely knew (probably not even for family/friends), no matter how scared I was of being accused of neglecting my own children.

So either they are all telling the truth, albeit with some embellishment to cover the neglect issue, or the others in the group have some kind of hold/blackmail etc over the couple they didn't know very well

Does anyone know if all the Tapas lot are still in contact or friendly?

It's the only sticking point for me...

All of the Tapas 9 knew each other very well - there are all sorts of ties between the couples which in some cases went back years ... some of them even shared houses when at uni. I used to know all the details but they've kind of faded now

Whilst I can't see myself ever covering up something like this, I can see how it might happen ... If Madeleine died from a complete accident - the repercussions of which could completely destroy careers or lead to imprisonment - then the friends could well have seen the McCann's as suffering from the loss of their daughter and undeserving of being tried/jailed/losing their other children on top of that.

It's not a long stretch from what some people believe and us doubters hear all the time ... ie that the McCanns shouldn't be questioned or criticised because "they have lost their daughter through a simple mistake - and we all make mistakes - they are suffering enough".

Add in that they had all been drinking, so maybe weren't thinking too clearly AND that they might all have been prosecuted for neglect (after all they were in a foreign country and presumably didn't know just how strict or not the laws were there). and I can see how it might have happened on the spur of the moment.

Afterwards they would all have to keep silent because they would have all committed an even more serious crime.

 

[amandad192]

Been reading this entire thread & you ladies definately seem to be piecing things together bit by bit and it's made me very worried about what actually went on that night! I watched the late late show link that was posted and found it really weird.... Gerry is very matter of fact isn't he- I would agree with the others who say he is definately 'in charge'.. I also found it odd that Kate was so defensive about her relationship with her husband, she went on for ages about how they never argued and such, and it was completely off topic to me! Seems like something hit a nerve there...

I completely agree about how she was defensive of her relationship.

It makes me wonder if Gerry killed maddie. Maybe he lost his temper and hit her too hard. To me Kate always looks like she wants to scream out what really happened. She always looks at gerry when he is talking. this says 2 things to me 1)She knows maddie wasn't abducted because it would be too painful to hear him talking about her and she would be looking at the floor. and 2)he has control over her.

I wouldn't be suprised if they don't argue because she's too scared of arguing with him. Maybe he has threatened to hurt her and the twins if she speaks up.

Hopefully the truth will come out one day. I'd love for that truth to prove us wrong and for maddie to be found safe. unfortunately though I doubt tha she is

 

[anna matronic]

Hang on... I swear on that Late Late show Kate was explaining that one of the couples they didn't know too well and were actually very good frineds with the couple they were good friends with, so more like friend of a friend rather than good friends iykwim?

 

[cupcakekate]

Hang on... I swear on that Late Late show Kate was explaining that one of the couples they didn't know too well and were actually very good frineds with the couple they were good friends with, so more like friend of a friend rather than good friends iykwim?

you're right, she said the others were good friends of her & gerry's best friends

 

[purpledahlia]

She did say that, but i think it was yet another discrepency that shes said different elsewhere?

 

[TattiesMum]

Evening Detectives

I thought I read (Tatties mum considering you also read the DM forum you may also remember this) but I am sure there was an incinerator and some kind of pet crematorium nearby too.

TM - That documentary, when watching it it seemed Kate's words on the Late LAte show was a direct repeat of that documentary, did anyone else notice that? I felt I'd heard it before, as if she has memorised a script

Yes I remember the threads about the pet crematorium ... as far as I know though it was thoroughly searched and that theory de-bunked.

I did stumble across something interesting a few days ago ... apparently there are acid beds in Huelva, Spain - the place where the McCanns visited to hand out leaflets (in Portuguese - which is nothing like Spanish ) on a known local holiday (when all the shops were shut).

There has long been speculation that the trip to Huelva could have been when the cadaver smell was transferred to the hire car - and there definitely ARE marshes full of spillage from a Spanish fertiliser plant in Huelva, which includes Sulphuric Acid

https://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/09/police-is-checking-kate-and-gerry-trips.html

https://www.sulphuric-acid.com/sulphuric-acid-on-the-web/acid plants/Fertiberia - Huelva.htm

 

[Sarah10]

Been reading this entire thread & you ladies definately seem to be piecing things together bit by bit and it's made me very worried about what actually went on that night! I watched the late late show link that was posted and found it really weird.... Gerry is very matter of fact isn't he- I would agree with the others who say he is definately 'in charge'.. I also found it odd that Kate was so defensive about her relationship with her husband, she went on for ages about how they never argued and such, and it was completely off topic to me! Seems like something hit a nerve there...

My thoughts exactly! Quite scary thinking about it, all along i hadn't even though it could be them which have something to do with it (i was only 15 when Madeline went missing so didn't really see/hear much about it all)

 

[Jem_x3]

Been reading this thread with interest. I've always thought that Madeleine died in the apartment, but something has been bugging me recently...

A couple of the people on holiday with the McCanns barely knew them, why would they agree to help cover up such a thing? If I was in the same situation, I doubt I'd help cover up the death of a child of a couple I barely knew (probably not even for family/friends), no matter how scared I was of being accused of neglecting my own children.

So either they are all telling the truth, albeit with some embellishment to cover the neglect issue, or the others in the group have some kind of hold/blackmail etc over the couple they didn't know very well

Does anyone know if all the Tapas lot are still in contact or friendly?

It's the only sticking point for me...

All of the Tapas 9 knew each other very well - there are all sorts of ties between the couples which in some cases went back years ... some of them even shared houses when at uni. I used to know all the details but they've kind of faded now

Whilst I can't see myself ever covering up something like this, I can see how it might happen ... If Madeleine died from a complete accident - the repercussions of which could completely destroy careers or lead to imprisonment - then the friends could well have seen the McCann's as suffering from the loss of their daughter and undeserving of being tried/jailed/losing their other children on top of that.

It's not a long stretch from what some people believe and us doubters hear all the time ... ie that the McCanns shouldn't be questioned or criticised because "they have lost their daughter through a simple mistake - and we all make mistakes - they are suffering enough".

Add in that they had all been drinking, so maybe weren't thinking too clearly AND that they might all have been prosecuted for neglect (after all they were in a foreign country and presumably didn't know just how strict or not the laws were there). and I can see how it might have happened on the spur of the moment.

Afterwards they would all have to keep silent because they would have all committed an even more serious crime.

See now I believe this but what about Diane Webster? She was just there with her Daughter and son-in-law but she has kept completely silent. She had no responsibility to those children and it was said that the Payne's actually used a baby monitor? That's what gets me - if you have no reason to keep quiet because you weren't neglecting any children or breaking a law, why keep quiet? What would influence you to cover up a crime? Money? Power?..

 

[TattiesMum]

See now I believe this but what about Diane Webster? She was just there with her Daughter and son-in-law but she has kept completely silent. She had no responsibility to those children and it was said that the Payne's actually used a baby monitor? That's what gets me - if you have no reason to keep quiet because you weren't neglecting any children or breaking a law, why keep quiet? What would influence you to cover up a crime? Money? Power?..

Protecting your daughter and grandchildren Hon ... probably the strongest reason of all

 

[Cloberella]

I've read this entire thread, and I've gone from thinking they were just neglectful, to thinking they did it, and now I'm not sure what to think :/

I just don't see where they could have hidden the body. If she did have an accident and it wasn't pre-meditated, how would they have found somewhere to hide the body? I've seen theories such as in underground tunnels, but they hadn't been there before so how could they know there were tunnels underground?

Another theory is that they dumped her body out to sea, the only way this would be possible really, is for them to hire a boat and go into the ocean, if they did this then the boat hire people would be witnesses? The would need to do it in the dark and wouldn't that be suspicious?

As for just chucking her into the sea, that wouldn't work because her body would drift right back in again.

I'm just thinking out loud here sorry.

 

[Tasha]

Sulphuric acid I would really hope they didnt

Diane Webster would know that her daughter and SIL could end up in prison, maybe worried about that and her grandchildren being taken away

 

[going_crazy]

Gerry uses the word "absolutely" a lot, and he really emphasises it:

"there is absolutely no way we'd use any sedative drugs" (also rubbing his ear as he speaks" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMUdynuECbE

During the interview on the Late Late show (sorry, can't find the original link, so used this one: https://www.slippingthroughmyfingers.com/rte-late-late-show-13-05-11/ )
He does it again, just trying to find where!

To me, that is maybe a sign of a liar????

 

[Tasha]

Oh in the documentry that was put on earlier but TM, Gerry is talking about the fact that they are a happy family and he not only rubs his face but covers his mouth too. Lies.

 

[purpledahlia]

I have also wondered if they have given maddie to someone to look after but i just dont know anymore... i really dont know.

I just hope shes not with pedophiles or in sulphuric acid

 

[anna matronic]

Gerry uses the word "absolutely" a lot, and he really emphasises it:

"there is absolutely no way we'd use any sedative drugs" (also rubbing his ear as he speaks" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMUdynuECbE

During the interview on the Late Late show (sorry, can't find the original link, so used this one: https://www.slippingthroughmyfingers.com/rte-late-late-show-13-05-11/ )
He does it again, just trying to find where!

To me, that is maybe a sign of a liar????

He stopped all eye contact and looked to the floor too when he said that and rubbed his ear.

 

[TattiesMum]

I've read this entire thread, and I've gone from thinking they were just neglectful, to thinking they did it, and now I'm not sure what to think :/

I just don't see where they could have hidden the body. If she did have an accident and it wasn't pre-meditated, how would they have found somewhere to hide the body? I've seen theories such as in underground tunnels, but they hadn't been there before so how could they know there were tunnels underground?

Another theory is that they dumped her body out to sea, the only way this would be possible really, is for them to hire a boat and go into the ocean, if they did this then the boat hire people would be witnesses? The would need to do it in the dark and wouldn't that be suspicious?

As for just chucking her into the sea, that wouldn't work because her body would drift right back in again.

I'm just thinking out loud here sorry.

I've always thought the church to be honest - and then somewhere between there and Huelva (when all attention was on sightings in Malta rather than the McCanns themselves).

It's just speculation of course - but it fits in with the cadaver smell in the car boot, which immediate dumping at sea wouldn't explain.