Kate McCann releasing a book...

[nikkip75]

And when would they have done this? Ive never actually cut a human body up but I can imagine it would take a while to do it. You would need the correct tools. There would be blood EVERYWHERE! So when forensics was done on the apartment there would be a lot more blood found than just a small patch behind the settee.

Or did they do it after when the worlds press was watching them, police, family, friends, etc.

I can understand people speculating about there being an accident and a cover up but saying they cut her body up and disposed of her, just a step to far for me sorry.

And it's nothing to do with being a GP.

 

[Tasha]

OH has always said that Madeleine would be found in the roadworks but it is a little mentioned issue in this saga. I have no idea why they have not dug these up and checked.

I don't think the McCanns are necessarily guilty because they show little emotion. I don't see that as a sign of guilt. You never know exactly how people feel despite what it looks on the surface. I don't believe that people need to publically show their emotions. Much of the dislike of the McCanns seems to stem from their lack of emotion but we don't ever see what happens in private and it is always worth remembering that.

I agree you, with the little emotion doesnt mean they are guilty. What we show to the outside world, is very often not what is happening in our minds and also behind closed doors.

I do think most people on this thread though, have read lots of things and are basing their opinion of guilt on those, rather than the lack of emotion.

I just dont understand why they havent dug them up, well why they allowed it to be filled in the first place either

 

[nikkip75]

OH has always said that Madeleine would be found in the roadworks but it is a little mentioned issue in this saga. I have no idea why they have not dug these up and checked.

I don't think the McCanns are necessarily guilty because they show little emotion. I don't see that as a sign of guilt. You never know exactly how people feel despite what it looks on the surface. I don't believe that people need to publically show their emotions. Much of the dislike of the McCanns seems to stem from their lack of emotion but we don't ever see what happens in private and it is always worth remembering that.

Totally agree.

 

[LoraLoo]

And when would they have done this? Ive never actually cut a human body up but I can imagine it would take a while to do it. You would need the correct tools. There would be blood EVERYWHERE! So when forensics was done on the apartment there would be a lot more blood found than just a small patch behind the settee.

Or did they do it after when the worlds press was watching them, police, family, friends, etc.

I can understand people speculating about there being an accident and a cover up but saying they cut her body up and disposed of her, just a step to far for me sorry.

And it's nothing to do with being a GP.

Who says they had to do it there and then in the apartment, who says they didnt hide her body or a while and then do it- why was Maddies blood found in their rental car 24 days after she went missing? Nobody is saying they did, because nobody knows for definate that she was killed, but if they did kill her -accidently or otherwise, then of course, the possibility is there

 

[TattiesMum]

I've just come across a blatant discrepancy between the McCanns' own documentary and the book

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t...-statements-in-the-pj-files-videos-interviews

In the book Kate explains when she first realised that something was wrong tells how she realised something was wrong when she noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was wide open – not as she and her husband had left it. She glanced at Madeleine’s bed and saw she wasn't there. She went to check her own room. When she saw Madeleine wasn't there either, she panicked and ran back to the children’s room.
‘My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up.

BUT ... In their documentary she claims something completely different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw

It's right at the start

 

[Pixelle]

OH has always said that Madeleine would be found in the roadworks but it is a little mentioned issue in this saga. I have no idea why they have not dug these up and checked.

I don't think the McCanns are necessarily guilty because they show little emotion. I don't see that as a sign of guilt. You never know exactly how people feel despite what it looks on the surface. I don't believe that people need to publically show their emotions. Much of the dislike of the McCanns seems to stem from their lack of emotion but we don't ever see what happens in private and it is always worth remembering that.

It's not just their public lack of emotion, imo. And although I previously said I thought the lack of emotion was leading me to conclude they are guilty, my opinion isn't based on just that. The main thing for me is the cadaver and blood dog evidence.

When Kate found Madeleine had disappeared, she didn't scream, shout, try to get anyone's attention.
That lack of emotion, I find quite disturbing, tbh. There seemed to be no panic....which I KNOW I would feel, and probably most other parents too.
Yes, she could be in shock, but even so....you don't then leave your two other children on their own, in the apartment your daughter was supposedly snatched from.

Just my view

 

[LoraLoo]

I've just come across a blatant discrepancy between the McCanns' own documentary and the book

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t...-statements-in-the-pj-files-videos-interviews

In the book Kate explains when she first realised that something was wrong tells how she realised something was wrong when she noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was wide open – not as she and her husband had left it. She glanced at Madeleine’s bed and saw she wasn't there. She went to check her own room. When she saw Madeleine wasn't there either, she panicked and ran back to the children’s room.
‘My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up.

BUT ... In their documentary she claims something completely different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw

It's right at the start

Which part do you mean, sorry- thick moment

 

[indy and lara]

OH has always said that Madeleine would be found in the roadworks but it is a little mentioned issue in this saga. I have no idea why they have not dug these up and checked.

I don't think the McCanns are necessarily guilty because they show little emotion. I don't see that as a sign of guilt. You never know exactly how people feel despite what it looks on the surface. I don't believe that people need to publically show their emotions. Much of the dislike of the McCanns seems to stem from their lack of emotion but we don't ever see what happens in private and it is always worth remembering that.

It's not just their public lack of emotion, imo. And although I previously said I thought the lack of emotion was leading me to conclude they are guilty, my opinion isn't based on just that. The main thing for me is the cadaver and blood dog evidence.

When Kate found Madeleine had disappeared, she didn't scream, shout, try to get anyone's attention.
That lack of emotion, I find quite disturbing, tbh. There seemed to be no panic....which I KNOW I would feel, and probably most other parents too.
Yes, she could be in shock, but even so....you don't then leave your two other children on their own, in the apartment your daughter was supposedly snatched from.

Just my view

I am being totally honest here but I do think that this is exactly what I would have done. I think I would have checked the others were there and ran straight out to get help. I don't know if faced with the situation that my child had gone that I would have been logical enough to think that the risk/ abductor was there and take them with me.

I know that the people here have not decided on the McCanns' guilt based solely on their lack of emotion. However I think as a country we always seem to prefer those people who bare their soul, regardless of the situation, compared to those who put up a calm/ emotionless front.

 

[LoraLoo]

I would never have left my kids alone in that apartment if i thought one had been abducted. In the same way I'd never leave my child in the house if i thought there was a burgular or murderer roaming free.

 

[Tasha]

Yes I noticed before now that it has been changed a few times how she realised.

Also in that documentry the words Gerry uses are a bit weird, 'she is out there until proved otherwise'. I dont know, I thought it would make more sense if he said she is alive until proved otherwise.

 

[purpledahlia]

I wouldnt have ran out and left two kids in a room my child had been 'taken' from??? If she was as close as she states to teh bar id of ran to the balcony screaming help!??!

 

[LoraLoo]

I wouldnt have ran out and left two kids in a room my child had been 'taken' from??? If she was as close as she states to teh bar id of ran to the balcony screaming help!??!

This

 

[indy and lara]

I wouldnt have ran out and left two kids in a room my child had been 'taken' from??? If she was as close as she states to teh bar id of ran to the balcony screaming help!??!

As I said, I am not sure that I would be that logical. Panic can make you do very illogical things. Having done 'odd' things when in paniced situations myself I am not able to say hand on heart that I would not have ran out for help. Was just being honest.

 

[AppleBlossom]

She couldn't have shouted though because the bar was too far away for anyone to hear her

 

[TattiesMum]

I've just come across a blatant discrepancy between the McCanns' own documentary and the book

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t...-statements-in-the-pj-files-videos-interviews

In the book Kate explains when she first realised that something was wrong tells how she realised something was wrong when she noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was wide open – not as she and her husband had left it. She glanced at Madeleine’s bed and saw she wasn't there. She went to check her own room. When she saw Madeleine wasn't there either, she panicked and ran back to the children’s room.
‘My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up.

BUT ... In their documentary she claims something completely different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw

It's right at the start

Which part do you mean, sorry- thick moment

In the documentary Kate claims that she noticed the door was open further than 'we had left it' (same as the book ... though in all honesty I've always wondered why she would be surprised that the door had moved given that so many people had supposedly trekked into the apartment since they left together )

Then she says that she went to pull it to and as she did so a gust of wind slammed it shut (whereas in the book she says nothing about doors slamming at all... presumably because it's unlikely that it would have been open at all if the 'breeze' was that strong )

Then she says that she opened it and that's when she noticed the open window and shutter (nothing about checking her and Gerry's room and then going back to the children's room and discovering the open window then

Two completely different stories from the same person - unbelievable

It's also interesting to note that, unlike in the documentary, the curtains in that room were floor length, lined and the left hand one is trapped behind the bed next to the window ... if it wasn't so sad and infuriating it would be funny

 

[Tasha]

I wouldnt have ran out and left two kids in a room my child had been 'taken' from??? If she was as close as she states to teh bar id of ran to the balcony screaming help!??!

As I said, I am not sure that I would be that logical. Panic can make you do very illogical things. Having done 'odd' things when in paniced situations myself I am not able to say hand on heart that I would not have ran out for help. Was just being honest.

Again I agree, we cant be sure what we would do. We might think that we know but we cant be 100% sure unless we have been in that situation.

 

[LoraLoo]

I wouldnt have ran out and left two kids in a room my child had been 'taken' from??? If she was as close as she states to teh bar id of ran to the balcony screaming help!??!

As I said, I am not sure that I would be that logical. Panic can make you do very illogical things. Having done 'odd' things when in paniced situations myself I am not able to say hand on heart that I would not have ran out for help. Was just being honest.

From my experience- and i appreciate everyone is different - when you are put in stressful., emergency situations, your instincts take over and you go onto Auto pilot to protect your children. If anyone had told me that I'd have to give my baby CPR one day I'd have daid there was no way i could do it, but put in that situation I did, my little boy woke u and came downstairs and I remember telling Aaron to take him back ustairs because I didnt want him to see, so even though I was hysterical about Eve, I was still consciously thinking about Ollie, and protecting him too. Really hope that didnt come across as condescending in anyway

 

[CRWx]

also thought nobody called her Maddie? Sean & Amelie call her that? Theres so mant bloody contradictions

 

[CRWx]

& when he says about her being out there, it's like he's trying to convince himself idk maybe it's just me..

 

[Laura2919]

Well I got the book. Mum got it so I borrowed it.

Will be reading it over the next week I am off work.