Kate McCann releasing a book...

[indy and lara]

I wouldnt have ran out and left two kids in a room my child had been 'taken' from??? If she was as close as she states to teh bar id of ran to the balcony screaming help!??!

As I said, I am not sure that I would be that logical. Panic can make you do very illogical things. Having done 'odd' things when in paniced situations myself I am not able to say hand on heart that I would not have ran out for help. Was just being honest.

From my experience- and i appreciate everyone is different - when you are put in stressful., emergency situations, your instincts take over and you go onto Auto pilot to protect your children. If anyone had told me that I'd have to give my baby CPR one day I'd have daid there was no way i could do it, but put in that situation I did, my little boy woke u and came downstairs and I remember telling Aaron to take him back ustairs because I didnt want him to see, so even though I was hysterical about Eve, I was still consciously thinking about Ollie, and protecting him too. Really hope that didnt come across as condescending in anyway

Of course you didn't

I am just talking about me and how I have reacted to things before. I cannot say hand on heart that I would not have done the exact same thing.

 

[LoraLoo]

I've just come across a blatant discrepancy between the McCanns' own documentary and the book

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t...-statements-in-the-pj-files-videos-interviews

In the book Kate explains when she first realised that something was wrong tells how she realised something was wrong when she noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was wide open – not as she and her husband had left it. She glanced at Madeleine’s bed and saw she wasn't there. She went to check her own room. When she saw Madeleine wasn't there either, she panicked and ran back to the children’s room.
‘My heart lurched as I saw now that, behind them, the window was wide open and the shutters on the outside raised all the way up.

BUT ... In their documentary she claims something completely different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw

It's right at the start

Which part do you mean, sorry- thick moment

In the documentary Kate claims that she noticed the door was open further than 'we had left it' (same as the book ... though in all honesty I've always wondered why she would be surprised that the door had moved given that so many people had supposedly trekked into the apartment since they left together )

Then she says that she went to pull it to and as she did so a gust of wind slammed it shut (whereas in the book she says nothing about doors slamming at all... presumably because it's unlikely that it would have been open at all if the 'breeze' was that strong )

Then she says that she opened it and that's when she noticed the open window and shutter (nothing about checking her and Gerry's room and then going back to the children's room and discovering the open window then

Two completely different stories from the same person - unbelievable

It's also interesting to note that, unlike in the documentary, the curtains in that room were floor length, lined and the left hand one is trapped behind the bed next to the window ... if it wasn't so sad and infuriating it would be funny

I'm with you now thanks or that. Yes good points, Im ustairs atm, but i cant remember how i left the living room door and as you say, with all the 'checkings' that were happening, why would she even ind is suspicious?

And you are right, surely if it was windy the door would have slammed close beFore anyway? Surely, if it was to happen, it would have hapened when she entered the room?

Surely maddies bedcovers would have been pulled back too, why would an abducter put them all back into place? Would have been easy to see nobody was in the bed even if it was dark?

 

[LoraLoo]

p.s- please excuse all my typos, Im bad at the best of the times but seem to have a few keys that keep sticking

 

[Jem_x3]

About all the not showing emotion business.. sometimes I think she looks too sad? If you get what I mean. Like she's really trying to make herself look as miserable as possible. I need sleep

 

[going_crazy]

Maybe we should all contribute to a list of discrepancies that have cropped up over the years, and put them all into a list and send it to the MET.....

 

[CRWx]

they'd probably not listen

 

[LoraLoo]

Maybe we should all contribute to a list of discrepancies that have cropped up over the years, and put them all into a list and send it to the MET.....

just send them the link to this thread

 

[Lucy22]

Maybe I'm naive and I try to see the good in people too much, but I believe that if they had accidentally killed her or whatever, they would have been found out by now. Shes known worldwide - someone would have found a body by now. I also find it hard to believe that they would still be pushing themselves in to the limelight so much, highlighting her abduction after all this time if they had been responsible. There must be some sort of hard evidence to suggest the UK have now reopened the search for her.
At the end of the day, regardless of who did it, theres a missing child out there, possibly dead. Even if her parents were responsible for her abduction/death, we should still be looking.
I think people need to concentrate on that rather then speculating as to how she died/went missing.
Regardless of whose side you believe, the bottom line is the same :
A child is missing.

 

[Tasha]

Maybe we should all contribute to a list of discrepancies that have cropped up over the years, and put them all into a list and send it to the MET.....

just send them the link to this thread

 

[purpledahlia]

Of course, and i really hope she turns up before the year is out.

We're all just chatting about it all, speculating on what happened?

 

[nikkip75]

Exactly lucy

 

[AppleBlossom]

I'm confused as to what the problem is with speculation? We're not doing anyone any harm and we're entitled to voice our opinions as much as everyone else. Yes, she is missing. We can't do anything about it. It's not OUR fault she's missing. If someone could tell me why we should all just ignore the blatent signs that this wasn't a straightforward abduction and why we should all just feel sorry for these people who thought it was ok to leave their children alone in a hotel apartment while they went out drinking and refuse point blank, even though it contributed to the "disappearence" of one of their children, to acknowledge that they were ever in the wrong, then that would be greatly appreciated. If not, then you post your opinions and let other people post theirs? Nobody is right or wrong here

 

[going_crazy]

I don't think there's anything anyone on here wants more than for Madeleine to be found safe and well xx

 

[CocoaOne]

Been reading this thread with interest. I've always thought that Madeleine died in the apartment, but something has been bugging me recently...

A couple of the people on holiday with the McCanns barely knew them, why would they agree to help cover up such a thing? If I was in the same situation, I doubt I'd help cover up the death of a child of a couple I barely knew (probably not even for family/friends), no matter how scared I was of being accused of neglecting my own children.

So either they are all telling the truth, albeit with some embellishment to cover the neglect issue, or the others in the group have some kind of hold/blackmail etc over the couple they didn't know very well

Does anyone know if all the Tapas lot are still in contact or friendly?

It's the only sticking point for me...

 

[LoraLoo]

Been reading this thread with interest. I've always thought that Madeleine died in the apartment, but something has been bugging me recently...

A couple of the people on holiday with the McCanns barely knew them, why would they agree to help cover up such a thing? If I was in the same situation, I doubt I'd help cover up the death of a child of a couple I barely knew (probably not even for family/friends), no matter how scared I was of being accused of neglecting my own children.

So either they are all telling the truth, albeit with some embellishment to cover the neglect issue, or the others in the group have some kind of hold/blackmail etc over the couple they didn't know very well

Does anyone know if all the Tapas lot are still in contact or friendly?

It's the only sticking point for me...

Maybe they genuinely thought that they were innocent? If it ws one of my friends, I'd want to believe they were innocent too, especially i it was someone i trusted to watch my kids, bath them, check up on them etc. I guess once they told their stories and gave statements, they couldnt really go back. Who knows though

 

[CocoaOne]

I think the woman who didn't know them very well is the same woman who supposedly saw the man carrying a child away.... and changed her mind about 3 times as to what he looked like.

So that seems like she's lying. But why?

 

[Samemka]

Maybe I'm naive and I try to see the good in people too much, but I believe that if they had accidentally killed her or whatever, they would have been found out by now. Shes known worldwide - someone would have found a body by now. I also find it hard to believe that they would still be pushing themselves in to the limelight so much, highlighting her abduction after all this time if they had been responsible. There must be some sort of hard evidence to suggest the UK have now reopened the search for her.
At the end of the day, regardless of who did it, theres a missing child out there, possibly dead. Even if her parents were responsible for her abduction/death, we should still be looking.
I think people need to concentrate on that rather then speculating as to how she died/went missing.
Regardless of whose side you believe, the bottom line is the same :
A child is missing.

Madeleine McCann is not the only child missing in this world though! She's not the only British child missing. She's not the only British child missing who's been 'snatched' abroad (Ben Needham...)...I'm not being heartless towards her, but more her parents for making out like they are the only ones in this situation! Hearing them make out that the Government HAS to do something really gets my goat. NO - the Government DOESN'T. Instead of accepting the blame for being in this situation, they are now blaming yet another group of people. I wonder how many years it will take before they run out of people to blame!!!!

I'm sorry but the media/McCanns try to make out that we can help to 'find' Madeleine & 'we should be looking' - implying that if we aren't 'looking' we have failed. They've got a damn cheek as far as I'm concerned considering it's their lack of common sense that got them in this god awful situation!

 

[DonnaBallona]

iv read this entire thread and looked at as many of the attachments as Iv dared.... I have no idea what to think anymore. whatever happened that night, I want Maddie to know she'll never be forgotten. if she's alive, I hope she's safe, loved and happy-and if not... I hope it was quick and she didn't know.

this thread has upset me so, so much. to all those mummies that have lost their babies, I am so sorry for your loss.

sleep peacefully little ones, and if you're alive, belated happy birthday and a big huggle for maddi.

 

[purpledahlia]

Well they were ALL neglecting their kids.....

 

[anna matronic]

Evening Detectives

I thought I read (Tatties mum considering you also read the DM forum you may also remember this) but I am sure there was an incinerator and some kind of pet crematorium nearby too.

TM - That documentary, when watching it it seemed Kate's words on the Late LAte show was a direct repeat of that documentary, did anyone else notice that? I felt I'd heard it before, as if she has memorised a script