Kate McCann releasing a book...

[Jem_x3]

I thought those of you who read the first Pat Brown (US Criminal Profiler) piece might be interested in this latest one that she published today


https://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2011/05/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day-did.html

Uhm, interesting read. Wasn't that well written and a tad bit childish in places but sure I agree lol

 

[Laura2919]

I havent read from when I last posted but a while back someone said that Kate ran out of the apartment screaming 'they have taken her' but the book says she shouts 'Madeleine's gone, someones taken her'
I am only on page 83, just starting chapter 6 which starts from 4th May, day after Madeleine went missing, some things dont make sense but then reading on a few pages I realise why she mentions them..

 

[morri]

2042 replies in 2 weeks. Wow what a big topic.

 

[Reedy]

I was telling my parents about this thread this morning & when I told them that I think the McCanns had something to do with it, they looked at me like I had two heads, they couldn't believe I was being so horrible x
My dad hit the nail on the head though when I said that I'm disgusted that they haven't been charged with neglect & that they should be punished & my dads reply was 'do you not think their daughter going missing is enough punishment for them?' and it made me think that is exactly why they haven't been charged with repeatedly neglecting their 3 children, because one of them is missing & charging them with neglect now would just be cruel x
Anyone else agree??

 

[bbyno1]

This thread needs to be printed off and handed into the 'police' who do not know how to look into a case properly! You girls have done all the hard work and investigating. Done a better job than them!

 

[Laura2919]

This part in the book I have never heard before..

Previously she mentions that they were unable to book a table at the tapas bar until the morning of the day they needed the table as it was small and only held space for 15 or so people. Then she says this:

'In spite of what we'd been told about booking the Tapas restaurant, Rachael managed ti get a table for 9 people at 8.30pm pencilled in for the rest of the week after having a word with the receptionist and Tapas area'
'Its wasnt until a year later when I was combing through the portuguese police files, that I discovered that the note reuestiong our block booking was written in a staff message book which was sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day, this book was by definition accesible to all staff and visitors too.'

Missing the next couple of lines she writes this:

'the receptionist had added the reason for our request: we wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.'

If thats true then someone could of seen it.. So far since reading I do think she is innocent..

 

[Jem_x3]

I have to agree the book is very convincing. It very much makes them out to be innocent and adds alot of detail into why what happened may of happened. Having said that, that is a big point of writing the book. They wanted to get their side of the story out there. And just because she's put it in a book doesn't necessarily make it true.

 

[annawrigley]

I was telling my parents about this thread this morning & when I told them that I think the McCanns had something to do with it, they looked at me like I had two heads, they couldn't believe I was being so horrible x
My dad hit the nail on the head though when I said that I'm disgusted that they haven't been charged with neglect & that they should be punished & my dads reply was 'do you not think their daughter going missing is enough punishment for them?' and it made me think that is exactly why they haven't been charged with repeatedly neglecting their 3 children, because one of them is missing & charging them with neglect now would just be cruel x
Anyone else agree??

I don't. Many people are "punished" emotionally for breaking the law and are still punished. I remember the thread about the woman who left her child in the car and (s)he died and she was charged for neglect, I'm sure she'll be torturing herself every day over it but she wasn't excused for it so neither should the McCann's be, especially as their neglect was actually pre-meditated, this woman's wasn't!

 

[moomin_troll]

they should still of been punished for leaving their children. yes i cant even begin to imagine my baby going missing but if it was because i had left him id take any punishment going because to me losing him wouldnt be punishment enough...nothing would be

 

[AppleBlossom]

I don't think that is a punishment enough no. At the end of the day, they commited an offence which is punishable by law in the UK and I don't believe they should be given special treatment. I remember a story ages ago about a woman who left her child alone in their home while she went to the shop and when she came back her house was on fire and her child died. She was still done for neglect

 

[purpledahlia]

Yeh i agree, they should still have been charged for leaving them unattended, all of the tapas lot should have been. The twins should have social workers too. IMO.

Uhhrrr forgot what i was going to reply, oh yeh, in regards to them seeming innocent from the book... to me, it still doesnt explain the dog's!

 

[Laura2919]

What annoyed me was their friend Fiona took her mother with her and her mother went out to eat, why did she tag along with her daughter and her 3 sets of friends? Couldnt she have watched them instead of wanting to be in the convo?

 

[annawrigley]

Yeh i agree, they should still have been charged for leaving them unattended, all of the tapas lot should have been. The twins should have social workers too. IMO.

Uhhrrr forgot what i was going to reply, oh yeh, in regards to them seeming innocent from the book... to me, it still doesnt explain the dog's!

IKWYM. Every time I watch an interview or documentary from their "side" (started watching that 'Madeleine Was Here' but it annoyed me so I stopped) I start to sympathise and totally believe them, they are pretty convincing! But then I remember the dogs and all the things that don't add up, the refusal to answer the questions and I just CAN'T think of another explanation...

 

[morri]

I don't think it is right how you judge people who you don't really know. I mean take away their twins? How well do you know how they treat them?

 

[purpledahlia]

I didnt say they should be taken away??

I mean they should have social workers who check how they are, because, the parents left them unattended, and IMO that is neglect. They have 'neglected' the twins in the past leaving them alone, with no adult near, and in an unsecure place, whats to say they dont now? im not saying they do, but how do you kno?? u dont know about these things till it goes wrong!! but if that had been any other parent in the UK. They most probably *would* have lost their kids. why the special treatment??

 

[Tasha]

I don't think it is right how you judge people who you don't really know. I mean take away their twins? How well do you know how they treat them?

I think the point is, that the twins were neglected too. Every night they went out on the holiday and left those children alone, anything could of happened to any one of them

 

[moomin_troll]

in any normal case of neglect the child/children should be appointed a social worker, and the fact they dont seem to have one is not only them failing as parents but our system failing at what their own laws are.

whats the point in having laws if certain people can get away with it because they have infact broken that law

 

[purpledahlia]

And TBH, I as a parent think i/we Can judge a parent who neglects their children. I see that as unfit parenting TBH. Just because theyre suffering with the loss of one child, people are forgetting its the mccanns actions that led to their suffering.. had they stayed in or taken the kids, it wouldnt have happened at all. It was selfish behaviour. To me a family holiday is exactly that, FAMILY. they should have eaten earlier and taken the kids. thats the moral of the story.

 

[moomin_troll]

And TBH, I as a parent think i/we Can judge a parent who neglects their children. I see that as unfit parenting TBH. Just because theyre suffering with the loss of one child, people are forgetting its the mccanns actions that led to their suffering.. had they stayed in or taken the kids, it wouldnt have happened at all. It was selfish behaviour. To me a family holiday is exactly that, FAMILY. they should have eaten earlier and taken the kids. thats the moral of the story.

too true!

we have just been to ibiza and anything i did on that holiday revolved around zane and his needs...so that being said i didnt get much of a holiday lol but hes my son why would i want to leave him alone.

i hate the thought of him being alone and scared even if he was safe but just woke up

 

[purpledahlia]

exactly! you either want an adult holiday or a family one!! to have both means, take a babysitter!! its just damn stupid to leave them alone. I freak out just taking the bin out to the front once a week knowing shes inside, its litterally an out the back door, lock it, walk round the house put bin on pavement, and go in the front door. i still run!! cos i cant hear her or see her so it petrifies me! really do not understand how they did it and the fact theres a statement saying the neighbour heard crying for 75mins the night before, prooves maddie was destressed when she woke to a empty apartment. just ridiculous.