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[stellargaze]

My stitches are quite noticeable and skin is getting red around them a bit. The bottom right one itches and burns, and the skin feels really dry. I'm worried that it's not healing well and wondering if it's getting infected.

A bit achy still, it's weird as I was doing very well until I tired myself out that day.


Kermy-- to answer your questions, a chocolate cyst is an endometrial cyst that's filled with blood.

I don't know about the hair-- it's definitely linked to PCOS, but my doctor said that he drained the pcos cysts as well, but expects that I will still need clomid to ovulate, My understanding is that the lap really helps for endo, but cannot cure or really alleviate the pcos. I was told I'll still need clomid as they are two separate issues.

 

[stellargaze]

Back on my feet today! The aches are all gone Seeing my gp just to have someone look at the stitches and put my mind at ease.

Very excited as I'm having lots of the right kind of CM. Hoping this is a good sign. I am determined to get my bfp this autumn!

 

[kermy79]

Good luck stellergaze. What do u mean by the right kind of cm? I have neve had any (ever) so not sure what kind i should be having or what kin to expect, AF is due soon (i hope). The problem i got at the moment is a lot of antibiotics tend to give me a dose of trush, Unfortunatly. So im suffering with that at the moment so cm is not there. I cant even take any meds for thrush because the antibiotics will start it up again. So have to wait untill antibiotics have finished before medicating the thrush.

I am so annoyed with the antibiotics, just wish i could stop taking them and feel normal again.

 

[stellargaze]

Good CM is clear and stretchy-- like egg whites. When you get this type of CM it is a sign that ovulation is going to occur. It's also necessary for the sperm to swim through. They now sell special lubes that promote fertility as they mimic cm and have been shown to aid fertlity.

I wasn't given any antibiotics. I would suggest taking a good probiotic supplement-- the kind you have to keep in the fridge. It will help keep the healthy bacteria in balance and you can take it during the antibiotics and keep them up afterwards. Or eat a lot of yogurt with live acidophilus

Had some great news today! Got the SA results which, I quote 'are very compatible with pregnancy'! This is very exciting news for us as the first time we did the test through the nhs, they needed to repeat it is as the viscosity was off, and the second time they lost the results! It was definitely worth paying to do it privately at a good clinic!

My surgeon also said that the stitch is just irritated and not infected-- that maybe I need to take the stitch out. So hoping the gp can sort for me!

 

[mamawannabee]

Hi Ladies, glad to know everyone is doing well. I am recovering well also. No bleeding now for 2 days and hope to god that is going to arrive on time (this weekend) so can start and more

My incisions are healing quite well. The ones on the side seems to be a bit raised so hopefully it will go away in time. My stomach is also quite normal now. Not swollen at all. Just not as flat as before

Are you all going back to work soon or having another few days off? I am going back to work tom. Can always go early if I am feeling too tired or something but hopefully I will be fine.

How are you all feel at the moment emotionally? I was quite down the other day. Just don't know how to handle this new diagnosis - endo. Never in a millions years thought I will have this.

Anyway, was talking to hubby the other day that I was very low. He said to me that you should look forward to the next few months...the excitement of ttc again.

I sincerely hope and pray that everyone of us will have our wish granted after going thru this physical and emotionally drained journey....

I hope you don't mind me popping in here, but I wanted to give you some hope. Having had menstrual problems for a long time, after beginning infertility treatment I kept insisting to my doctor that something was really wrong and he kept sending me away to try some more. Finally after returning saying I couldn't handle the physical monthly pain anymore despite prescription pain meds he scheduled me for a lap. I was diagnosed with endo which I basically expected and though the healing was rough, we were back ttc within 3 weeks. I was so hopeful again knowing what the problem was, and we began clomid with the knowledge that we had 3 months or IVF was our only option left. The second month was our success, and I don't think it ever would have happened without the surgery. In all of my research before and after it, you have about 2 years after in which you are more likely to get pg. I don't know if you can try the Clomid now even though you couldn't before, but if you can I would give it a try. It makes endo worse so you cannot be on it for more than 3 to 6 months but for most women, it is well worth the risk.

 

[Evon47]

Thank you mamaw! U have given us hope! My gyno wants me to try natural for 3 months first b4 moving on to clomid. I am thinking wat to do now... Can I ask u when u had ur lap, did u hadvthe endo lasered or excised? I have heard the excised method is more effective and reduce recurrence rates. I wish I knew b4 the lap...

And after the lap, did u get ur af on time, early or late? I am still waiting for af to arrive. 5 days late now....just so impatient to start ttc again.

 

[mamawannabee]

I had it done with a laser where he burned away what he could, there was some he left because it was too dangerous to burn off of the nerves of my uterus as he was afraid it would kill those nerves all together. The difference is that those excised using scissors or a laser but where the spots are kept in tact are less likely to come back soon, they take longer. My doctor said they only do that if they are sending it away to be tested, which in my case they were not so he did not do it. According to my doctor, the recurrance rate is much lower if you are able to get pg soon after, but it is always still possible, most likely after 2 to 5 years without pregnancy but he said it was much less likely if you do get pg as it gives your body a break from the monthly build up.

My AF arrived a week late following the lap, which I was thankful for so I didn't have the pain from the surgery in addition to pain from bleeding, but it did prolong ttc again. I was getting impatient, but my cycles are pretty irregular anyway. If yours are too, it could just be that your body is focusing on recovering and it may just be a little late. And like your doctor, mine had wanted us to try for 3 more months naturally following the lap but ultimately left the decision up to me and I opted for the Clomid. I figured as it was only 50 mg it could not hurt too much, and we had already tried for long enough that I was ready for more help. You can always seek a second opinion, but I would stay away from the Clomid you can order online. I have never used it but found a lot of women on the Clomid boards I read had gotten it that way which makes me very nervous as it can be harmful if you are not being monitored on it. I would ask the doctor at your post op check up if he would be open to you trying the Clomid, as I know 3 more months can seem like forever when ttc.

 

[kermy79]

Hi ladies when i started this post i never thought it would never be this informative and popular with so many diff women. I am so glad i have been able to bring so much information and help to so many diff women with so many diff problems (even if it was unKnowingly).

I do have a question of my own today. i had the neosalpingostomy done on the 25th of july and i am now feeling great and back to normal, the only thing is i started bleeding about 3 days ago (Around the time AF is due) but its "pathetic" bleeding. next to nothing during the day and nothing at all at night. could this be , my periods havent been like this since i was a teen. is this me getting back to normal?

Thanks again for all ur imput for myself and the other women too

and to you alll

 

[Evon47]

Hi Kermy, thanks again for starting this post! And thanks to all whom have contributed. Regarding your question about af, mayb it's the lap which causes ur af to b light? They did say it in the lap booklet I got but then my af now is still missing so i just hope it will arrive soon.

Mamaw, how bad was the clomid causing endo pain? I will defo not going to order that on-line. U just never know what's actually in there! I wasn't offered any hormone injection after lap cause I wanna ttc asap. I am already 34 u see, age is against me. I have read ur posting on success stories also! So inspiring! I wish u a happy pregnancy and a healthy baby

 

[kermy79]

Hi Kermy, thanks again for starting this post! And thanks to all whom have contributed. Regarding your question about af, mayb it's the lap which causes ur af to b light? They did say it in the lap booklet I got but then my af now is still missing so i just hope it will arrive soon.

Mamaw, how bad was the clomid causing endo pain? I will defo not going to order that on-line. U just never know what's actually in there! I wasn't offered any hormone injection after lap cause I wanna ttc asap. I am already 34 u see, age is against me. I have read ur posting on success stories also! So inspiring! I wish u a happy pregnancy and a healthy baby

I didnt recieve any info prior to the lap. This is why i have so many questions about the after care/ effects. My 6 week appointment is actually a 15 week appointment. I cant get to see my fs for 15 weeks after the lap. so im alone so to speak untill then. Half the stuff i read on line im never too sure to believe it or not. Im just at a total loss for info. The worst part for me is i cant even get to see my g.p untill september so hes no use either and i have no idea if my op went to plan, if there were any complications or anything like that because i cant get an appointment with anyone. Why do i feel like i have been sold a big goose egg? Is that why i cant get to see my fs? Is he trying to leave it long enough so he can blame me if at my appoinment something is wrong? Am i being paranoid? Am i making a mountain out of a mole hill? OMG imy head is so messed up. I want to start ttc again but everything seems to be getting in my way,

1 - recovery from op took longer than i though
2 - a dose of thrush killed my chances after recovery
3 - AF has just landed
4 - cant get an answer to any of my questions about sex and when its ok to start trying again.

If anyone has any info that would be great thank you

and to you all

 

[mamawannabee]

Hi Kermy, thanks again for starting this post! And thanks to all whom have contributed. Regarding your question about af, mayb it's the lap which causes ur af to b light? They did say it in the lap booklet I got but then my af now is still missing so i just hope it will arrive soon.

Mamaw, how bad was the clomid causing endo pain? I will defo not going to order that on-line. U just never know what's actually in there! I wasn't offered any hormone injection after lap cause I wanna ttc asap. I am already 34 u see, age is against me. I have read ur posting on success stories also! So inspiring! I wish u a happy pregnancy and a healthy baby

The Clomid definitely made the pain worse the month I got af while on it, and made me get O pain for the first time ever. I woke up in so much pain the night I got my +++ opk, I thought there was something seriously wrong but it went away after about 2 hours, I just put heat packs on it. The endo pains were also worse, but considering they were getting progressively worse every month, I don't know it if Clomid induced or not. They had offered me the hormone treatment to put me into a menopause for a while but I turned it down to get pg. What my doctor said was you either need to do that or get pg or the lap is pointless and the endo will just grow right back. And glad to hear you won't order it online, it just seems too risky! Fingers crossed for you this month!

 

[stellargaze]

I'm still waiting for af-- should be any day now if it goes remotely to schedule. I'm sure I feel it coming, but can also tell my hormones are a bit off -- which isn't too unusual for me. I am desparatey hoping that they settle down and find some sort of balance.

Kermy-- don't know exactly about ttc times, but as long as af arrives this week, I plan to try around ovulation time. Your appt does seem really far off from the surgery. I had the peace of mine of seeing my surgeon both after the surgery and the following morning. He made a special trip to see me at the hospital once my mind was cleared from the anasthetic and painkillers, in order to go over any questions I had.

My appt is on the 24th and I will let you know what I find out!

I have one month only before starting clomid and really want to try naturally first. Gonna pick up an ovulation tester. Kermy-- if you've gotten af, these testers can help indicate when you are fertile. Usually it's about 12-14 days after af (though I think it's really late for me) So if you just had af, even if you wait another week or 10 days, you may not miss your window for ttc this month!

 

[Evon47]

Mamaw, when did u start having endo pain? I am curious with other ladies with endo. I only started having terrible pain prob few months back. Others than that I was fine, sometimes no pain during af. Some endo ladies posted on-line their pain was constant throughout the month. I was shocked to b told I had stage iv but then apparently the level of pain doesn't coincide with severities. I am anxious to get pregnant then at least the endo can rest for a while. However, I am not writing myself off another surgery in the future. I sincerely hope some new discoveries will b available to cure this horrible, debilitating disease. Stellar, my af is still not here. I am cd 36 today...normally 28 day cycle and no symptoms whatsoever. I have been using the opk strips just in case the bleeding after the surgery was actually my af and so i hope i will b ovulating these few days but they turned up all negative so i just dunno what stage of cycle i am in and can only wait and see.....I hope urs will b on-time! I am getting a bit worried now and impatient to start ttc again! I must say, today is the first day after the surgery I actually feeling 'normal' again. All my stitches dissolved and bruises gone. Still bit tired but that's all.

Kermy, it's terrible for the hospital not to give u any info at all! My f/up is in few weeks time but my surgeon came to see me again b4 I went home to ans all my questions and concerns. If u r worried, u should ring the ward and see whether they can get u an appointment sooner....

I have bought lots of opk strips, pre-seeds and vit ready to battle the ttc world again so af please come for a visit!!!!

 

[kermy79]

my appointment has been moved now to the 30th of august which is a lot better. going to write my questions down before i go this time, instead of trying to rely on my brain. lol.

its a real shame i didnt get to see my fs after op. i would have loved to see him. its a good thing u all did though. the only info i recieved was an a4 sheet explaining a few things but nothing to do with bleeding, stitches, bruises, sex, af or anything usefull. just about the procedure really. as much as it was usefull b4 it was no good for afterwards.

the only reason i got the earlier appointment was because i rang them up and asked for my fs to write me a letter about everything, think he decided it would be easier to see me than writing tbh lol

af is with me now so im hoping to as soon as she packes her bags lol. im ready for that battle too hunni, i havent bought anything like u have EVON but im still ready and rearing to go. so is dh, hes gone without since just b4 the op and hes "feeling the strain" apparently lol.

thank god its women who do this stuff, we would get nowhere if it was down to men lol

good luck everyone

 

[MrsEvans]

ladies help needed

i'm 9 dpo and ive been spotting since 5dpo on and off. today its got quite brown and it looks like large tissue clumps. Did anyone else have this???
I'm thinking maybe i shouldn't of bd'd so much a week after surgery but i couldnt help myself

I'm temping this month so i know i ovulated i've only ever had spotting once before in November but this started earlier and im thinking maybe somethings not right

heres my chart
My Ovulation Chart

 

[Evon47]

Hi mrs Evans, I had the same thing happened to me! I thing it was just like 4 days b4 my expected af I went to the loo and a brown lump like tissue in the bowl. I then spots for 3-4 days and then it stopped! Thought af was coming but instead of af, I got lots of white creamy cf. I really dunno wat stage my cycle is and since I haven't bd yet I am defo not pregnant! I hope u r! Fingers cross for u!

 

[kermy79]

i spotted a lot and it was really dark brown too. not sure about the tissue bit but if i were u id go check it out just to be safe. I was really sore after about a week after op. i hope this helps. is it dark enough to look like chocolate tmi i know sorry?

 

[MrsEvans]

Thank you ladies

Now its pink and there when i wipe before it was just in cm. I'll ask the fs to check my cervix on Thursday hopefully its just blood escaping a couple of weeks later. It didnt get dark like chocolate Kermy more maroon burgundy colour.

gosh its a rollercoaster

 

[Evon47]

Oh, mine was light brown! It was bit darker b4 it totally disappeared!

 

[kermy79]

No disrespect intended ladies but u were all so lucky not to get the chocolate stuff. it was foul in everyway. Glad ur all getting better now