LH surge/+opk and ovulation in older women

[kosh]

hi all,
i was wondering if anyone knows if there is any correlation between older age and the time between getting a +opk and the real ovulation time. in other words, do older women ovulate sooner/closer to the +opk (say 12-24hs later), or do they ovulate later (say 36-48 or maybe even later)? or there is no trend?

i'm asking because i'm trying to get a better idea of when i do actually ovulate (i do not temp). i'm 40.

i'm a bit surprised because i got a positive opk on monday morning but i only just now got ewcm (over 72hs later)??!

any ideas?
thanks!

 

[Claireyb1]

hi all,
i was wondering if anyone knows if there is any correlation between older age and the time between getting a +opk and the real ovulation time. in other words, do older women ovulate sooner/closer to the +opk (say 12-24hs later), or do they ovulate later (say 36-48 or maybe even later)? or there is no trend?

i'm asking because i'm trying to get a better idea of when i do actually ovulate (i do not temp). i'm 40.

i'm a bit surprised because i got a positive opk on monday morning but i only just now got ewcm (over 72hs later)??!

any ideas?
thanks!

Good question Kosh, I just wish I had an answer for you.
I am 37 myself and would be interested in hearing anything on this.
Anyone???

 

[Rowan75]

not sure hon - I dont do opks anymore as my LH is too high so I just get perm positives as have pcos - it was soo frustrating getting positives for 3 weeks or more!

Hope someone has the answer for you x

 

[velo]

Have you had a negative test after the positive test? The theory is in some women LH levels are always high so the tests will show as positive or near-positive - I believe this is in women with PCOS, and in perimenopausal women. I am hoping not the latter for myself (or for you!). I have just received my OPK in the mail so I did a test 5 dpo and it was almost positive. I will wait until next cycle before trying again so as not to drive myself mad with theorizing.

I would try to confirm the OPK result with temping so keep on BD'ing until you see that temp rise! Baby dust!

 

[Rowan75]

aye I just always got positives I just stick to BBT now - positive opks every day is expensive, time consuming and so frustrating!

babydust to everyone - Im out this month as AF is on her way today

 

[Miss_C]

I know this may sound really silly but are they definitely positive positives? I am putting in my current cycle below - the 4th one down is the positive - where the test line is darker than the control line. I get approx 50 tests for $15 so very very cheap.

I get the temp rise the very next day after the positive so I think the surge itself is short with O shortly after but I have plenty of notice that it is coming as you can see, the very first one that I didn't include was a pure white strip no second line at all

I am 43 in a few weeks and been using opk's and charting for a while and this cycle was the first time I saw a "real" positive and been slapping myself now knowing the positives from the past weren't if you know what I mean, hence the reason I ask the question and am sharing the pics.

https://forum.birth.com.au/members/miss_c-albums-operation+bring+back+ziggy-picture22751-opks.jpg

 

[Rowan75]

theyre really good pics Miss C - I can see what you mean - v hard to tell! perhaps with me it was always picking up nearly positives?

What are you using Kosh?

 

[serendippy]

Im 44 and i normally get a strong positive a day or two before ovulation. The lines start getting darker about 3 days before the positive one and ill have sometimes 2 days of dark positives, sometimes even a positive when i have actually ovulated. Ive been TTC for a bit under 2 years and that has never changed for me really.

 

[GraceFace]

I love this question, as I was pondering the same for a while. The first time I tried using opk's I never got a positive, even testing twice a day on 7-9dpo. Either that cycle was annovulatory or my surge is very quick!

 

[Seity]

I would always get a +opk for 2 days and would OV within 24 hours of the 2nd + (I was 36 at the time) I was tracking my CM and temping, so that I could be certain. We would only have sex once a month on the day of the first + opk and it only took us 2 months to get pregnant.

 

[sarahincanada]

Im 38 and I find I seem to ovulate 12-24 hours after my positive ov test. last month I had a little spot of blood and usually I get cramping. My FS said most women are 24 hours later. I dont think theres any link to age and the timing.

I use the digital smiley face tests, as I find the ones with the lines Im not always sure if they are a positive or not, and often you dont know until they start going lighter and then it could be too late! a lot of people dont get really dark double lines.

Usually I get the smiley face around CD17. well last month I found myself really wet down there CD13 and so BD'd. that night I got my smiley face! I dont tend to check CM but that was so noticable and it was a day before I got that spot of blood from (I think) ovulation. So not sure if you getting it 72 hrs later means you ovulated later, as mine was the day before.

 

[kosh]

What are you using Kosh?

i was using tesco opks, but i got a CBFM for next cycle
i would get +opk for 2 days and then the lines go lighter gradually until they turn negative

 

[kosh]

Usually I get the smiley face around CD17. well last month I found myself really wet down there CD13 and so BD'd. that night I got my smiley face! I dont tend to check CM but that was so noticable and it was a day before I got that spot of blood from (I think) ovulation. So not sure if you getting it 72 hrs later means you ovulated later, as mine was the day before.

I really don't know what that was, as my opk was negative by then (I think!).
that's something else that's bothering me - for the last 2 months my ewcm seems to have almost dissapeared!

 

[Jax41]

Usually I get the smiley face around CD17. well last month I found myself really wet down there CD13 and so BD'd. that night I got my smiley face! I dont tend to check CM but that was so noticable and it was a day before I got that spot of blood from (I think) ovulation. So not sure if you getting it 72 hrs later means you ovulated later, as mine was the day before.

I really don't know what that was, as my opk was negative by then (I think!).
that's something else that's bothering me - for the last 2 months my ewcm seems to have almost dissapeared!

Me too Kosh, my EWCM seems to have had a holiday since New Year's eve (funny how you remember days like that exactly innit?!) Hello? Where have you gone?? I was so sure of it that I've not bothered with OPK's but am going back to them this month. So you reckon Tesco one's are quite good? I was using clear blue, but they ain't cheap!! Lots of luck xXx

 

[kosh]

So you reckon Tesco one's are quite good? I was using clear blue, but they ain't cheap!! Lots of luck xXx

I think they are fine, but I decided to invest in a CBFM anyway! I've got some spare Tesco's opk so I'm planning to use both next cycle in order to compare them. I let you know!

 

[Rowan75]

Im the opposite with ewcm - I even get it with AF?!

 

[serendippy]

I use tescos opk's and they are spot on with me...i used ones originally from homebargains and wilkies and never got a positive on those. I even opk'd with both a tesco and a wilkies one with the same urine. Tesco's came up positive and the cheapie one didnt.

 

[sarahincanada]

Usually I get the smiley face around CD17. well last month I found myself really wet down there CD13 and so BD'd. that night I got my smiley face! I dont tend to check CM but that was so noticable and it was a day before I got that spot of blood from (I think) ovulation. So not sure if you getting it 72 hrs later means you ovulated later, as mine was the day before.

I really don't know what that was, as my opk was negative by then (I think!).
that's something else that's bothering me - for the last 2 months my ewcm seems to have almost dissapeared!

yeah Ive never really been able to figure out the CM stuff, it all seems the same to me unless I get really wet. Im often quite wet from Ov-Period as well, and you are supposed to be drier then. so perhaps its not a good indicator and dont go by it! the ov tests I think are pretty good, although you can get a surge and not ovulate which is annoying. I also had 2 months where I never got my surge, it was so annoying but I think I was testing too late. It seems back on track now. good luck!!

 

[Nise]

Good question. I was finding that I regularly got the opk + on the same day as I O'd (according to my charting) which was really pissing me off as I felt I wasn't getting a warning at all. Then I started doing 2 tests a day 3 days before I was expecting to O and found that I often got a positive very late at night - which meant that in the past, several hours had already gone by the time I tested and I was getting the + more towards the end of the surge.

The day before yesterday I did 3 tests (All smiley face ones) the results I got were:

1330 = Neg 1930 = Neg 2315 = Pos


If I'd just done one a day at 1330 I would have been 14 hours past the beginning of the surge by the time I got it. (incidentally, I did do another one at 1330 the next day and it was still positive and turned negative that night) - It's worth experimenting.

 

[Jax41]

I use tescos opk's and they are spot on with me...i used ones originally from homebargains and wilkies and never got a positive on those. I even opk'd with both a tesco and a wilkies one with the same urine. Tesco's came up positive and the cheapie one didnt.

Hi Serendippy - how you doing hun? Not seen/heard from you in ages, you okay?flower: Thank you for the advice on the OPK's, I've bought some Tesco one's and am on CD13 so getting ready to use them when I get in from work tonight. Was VERY interested to read on their blurb that you shouldn't test with first morning wee (other's don't say this) - which I've always done before, maybe that's where I'm going wrong!! I'll let you know how I get on with them. Take care xXx