--Lion Cubs - Mummy and Baby Group!-- We are all One Year Old!

[Shiv]

Vici - yellow bobbley one, red bobbley one and black!

 

[Vici]

Thanks babe, which one do you like best?

 

[Shiv]

Thanks babe, which one do you like best?

defo the red and green monsters one!

 

[Vici]

Right i'm in for a catch up

Firstly. I am going to be very brave so please do not laugh at me I am not on any particular diet, i'm just watching what I eat and trying to exercise more

Weight on Monday 2nd Nov - 16st 3lb ( Never been over 15stone before and even that I hated!! )

Monday 7th Nov - 16stone (loss of 3lb )

Imi has been a little diamond, she really is so so good. Slept for 10 1/2 hours straight last night without even a murmour And she was an absolute dream for Grandma while we were away

Aunty E - hope all the move goes OK although sorry your date has been changed yet again!! Moving house is such a pain in the arse!! Our Imogen is the same with her drooling - my god, i can hardly keep on top of it although it doesn't seem to be bothering her atm

MJ - you're doing so well hun, keep it up We weren't set on a boys name so lucky for us we had a girl We were thinking James, Kieron or Christian You sound just like me on the dieting front!!

Shiv - thanks for your choices Well done on your 1/2lb, it all helps

jelr - glad Natasha is doing well Isn't it weird leaving them. We had a fab time at our friends wedding but my god, 2 nights away was soooo weird and we missed her so much! We're really thinking about what to do with our honeymoon as I couldn't leave her for that long. I'm hoping that it was because it was the first time as i really think DF and I should honeymoon alone

Elly - i don't and never have dreamfed Imi. She is now going for roughly 10 hours a night (sometimes a bit more and sometimes less). I do try and make sure she has 5 feeds during the day so she doesn't need the night one. Seems to be working OK and although she has 180ml bottles last night before bed she had 240ml!!! (150ml before bath and 90ml after then bed!)

elly - great news about Christian in his crib. bet that makes your life so much easier How's his rash hun?

rubyrose - hope your move all went well and things are getting sorted

Samstar - one thing I will never forget is going to SCBU to see Imi at about 2am one morning as I couldn't settle without her next to me. I just sat there holding her for about 3 hours and the poor girl in the room with her little boy in an incubator said to me, please cuddle her all you can, you're so so lucky, i wish i could hold Ben. He weighed 1lb8oz and was just tiny

grumpymoo - i cuddle Imi lots too, and it made me sad to read that Although she does love to have her floor time as she's so blooming wriggly

cleck - wish our was back to normal. I'm not sure but i think my mini pill i've started may have something to do with me not being interested! I did some looking on the web and it seems to be common with this pill I'll give it a couple of weeks and if its still bad i'll go back to the docs, think DF is going mad!!

Shadow - hope Vince is OK and those teethy pegs aren't playing him up too much. We have 2 teething rings in the fridge. Imi was chomping on her has a few days ago so i gave her one and she wouldn't even grasp it lol. No helping some kids

O, and Imi has started sucking her thumb I was really hoping to avoid this if I could but seems she's intent on defying me already

Think that me finally caught up

 

[Aunty E]

HA! My Imogen has been a demon for her thumb for a couple of weeks now - and this from the baby who screams if I put a dummy anywhere near her! Actually, I'm a big fan, she deffo sleeps longer now as she sucks her thumb when she wakes up and it settles her back down. Time enough to break her of the habit when she starts school. I sucked my thumb for years (until I was eleven I think) and my teeth are fine.

 

[Vici]

Its not so much the teeth that worries me, more that I don't know anyone who had dummies past 3, but i have friends who still suck their thumb!

Its doesn't help her at night as she's still swaddled

 

[jelr]

Hi girls

Well my stats are as follows:

13 stone 7 lbs when pregnant
12 stone 4 lbs after babs arrived.
24th October 12 stone - must have lost 4 lbs in fluid somewhere
31st October 11 stone 12 lbs - Loss of 2 lbs
7th November 11 stone 11 lbs - Loss of 1 lbs
Target is 9 stone 7 which is pre pregnancy weight and I would be happy to get there by the start of Feb when I go back to work or even under 10 stone.

Well I'm still doing this strict diet just for Monday to Friday this week as we are heading to Dublin on Saturday to find something for me to wear for the Christening and It is too much hassle trying to bring veg and fruit juices with me lol. I'm only going to do this for this week and next before the christening as it is too strict to maintain with only fruit and veg juices for breakfast and lunch and soup or stirfry for dinner. If I do have a massive loss in the next two weeks I may do another week before Christmas but I doubt that will happen with the last two weeks results so I will probably just eat really healthy and try that until Christmas and if no more is moving I will have to go back to doc and do the special shake diet that I did before when I was this weight 3 or 4 years ago - problem is with Polycystic Overies I have a nightmare losing weight but unfortunately the extra weigh puts too much pressure on my joints for my arthritis so I will have to shift it by that if nothing else works - I really hope I dont have to go down that route though as it is hard going - thats why I am going to try all else before Christmas as I really want to make sure I have built myself up enough after childbirth as I dont want to get sick with Natasha to look after.

Anyway for a catch up.

Aunty E: Think Natasha is going through a growth spurt too as she is drinking lots more the last few days and sleeping lots too during the day which she doesn't normally do. She also sucks her thumb sometimes but I think it is more something to chew on as she tries to get her whole fist in but sometimes only manages her thumb.

Vici: Yeah it is really strange being away from them, a bit like one of your limbs is missing lol - Ah hopefully you will feel much better by your honeymoon as I definitely think that is something you need to do by yourselves - when are ye getting married again - you may be glad of the break by then lol - everyone I have spoken to lately and said how much I dread going back to work has said that they felt like that but once LO's got on their feet they were glad of the break out of the house so if that is the case you might be glad to leave her behind lol - although I can't seem to imagine wanting a break from Natasha ever. only time will tell I guess. Well done on your 3 lbs loss you are doing far better than me and honey why in gods name would we laugh at you. We all know how hard it is.

As for the nappies I like the blue for the first, the first green for the second and the black for the last one - I'm with Shiv on the red and green monsters being my favourite.

Shiv: Well done losing that half pound especially when you had cake lol - Next week will be much better I bet especially if Sophia is doing all that feeding hopefully it will have great impact on your stomach muscles.

MJ: Staying the same is much better than putting on - Imagine if you cut back on the chocolate how well you will do - mind you that is hard to do but next week will be better I bet. Well done though you have lost a stone since you have had Adam so you are doing really well.

Well Natasha is back at the osteopath tomorrow she is stretching her a little more each time with no treatment and it seems to be working as she is not unsettled at all this time and her neck is much better - the back of her head has still a lot of compression on it but she may well have to grow out of that.

 

[Mary Jo]

Hmmm, this talk of dreamfeeds is worrying me - like Vici, I've never given Adam a bottle or a boob when he's asleep, we did try once but he wouldn't have it, plus he started sleeping same hours as us when he was 5-ish weeks old anyway, so I figured if he wasn't asking for a feed we wouldn't offer it. He actually only has 4 bottles a day at the moment and has for a while, at approx 4-hourly intervals, so around 8-9am, 12-1pm, 4-5pm (though that sometimes gets stretched to closer to 6pm - but I follow his cue and sometimes it's ess than 4 hours) and then before bed, about 10-11pm. He is offered 210ml at each feed. I also breastfeed in the morning before we get up (but the last week he's not wanted to for long, he managed 20 mins this morning but other mornings it's been like 2 mins - I'm also expressing but am fairly sure everything is going to dwindle down. Still I did 3 months, and even if he only gets a few oz a day it's something). If he's fed ok in the morning, he doesn't finish his formula and leaves 60-90ml. He always finishes his midday bottle, and usually his early evening one, but often leaves up to 90ml of his bedtime one.

So I don't know for sure how much he gets but it's definitely not over 900ml, which according to the weight in lbs x 2.5 = amount in oz thing (he's getting weighed tomorrow, I reckon around 12lb 8oz).

He sicks up a bit of his milk at/after each feed as well. Hmmm. But we don't leave him hungry... the 4-hourly thing is a guide for me, which HE tends towards, but I don't feed him unless he asks, because I want him to be able to recognise his own hunger, rather than someone else make the decision that he's hungry.

I guess since he's gaining ok, even though he's not a big baby (but on the same curve on the chart since he started regaining his birthweight) he's ok... I just read about babies and growth spurts and I wonder... I don't know whether to offer him more, the odd times I've offered more, if it's the daytime feeds he takes it, but if he doesn't get more he doesn't cry and he sleeps well after and is bright and all...

Ack. It's all a puzzle! I have to assume he's ok and will definitely ask for more if he wants. Till recently were stepping up the size of the feeds going on the Aptamil box, but he's pretty much a whole feed behind that now...

Oh well. Adult weight/eating is easier for me to think about ... we all have some serious dieting to do Vici, I hope my eating habits WILL lead to some weight loss, well, sans chocolate. We did a stupid thing last Thursday and bought a tin of Roses and a tin of Celebrations, they were 2 tins for £8 at the Co-op, thinking that as we previously were on the 3 for £1 offer on the Wispas, Star Bars, Double Deckers, etc etc, and getting through 3 a day between us, we'd make these 2 tins last longer than 8 days and thus save us money! Of course Chris has already eaten all his Roses, they lasted him 5 days. I still have quite a few of my Celebrations left but think they will all be gone by day 8, ie this Thursday, as Chris has now started on mine as well. So I think we won't end up having saved ££ but we'll have eaten all this chocolate, which calorie-wise should have lasted longer than 8 days... eeeeeeeeep. I am NOT buying any more tins. Chris will want them, but NO. the offer is finished now, thank goodness.

I should give up on the chocolate for financial reasons as well, I do miss my wages. Though I get SMP, tax credits and child benefit, it's not as much as working 2 days a week and I don't like to have to dip into my savings, would rather cut my coat according to my cloth... and there are some things that are more essential than chocolate. A bit of chocolate is an essential part of my day but not 2 Wispas. I wish I had the discipline to eat 2 chunks of Dairy Milk and leave the other 30 for another day...

Jelr, I sympathise with the extra weight= more joint pain thing, and it being an extra incentive to lose. I don't have arthritis, but my knees have been awful for the past 4 months and while I think it's hormone related and might improve when I quit bf (which will be sooner rather than later) it can't be helped by carrying an extra couple of stones about. I had a realisation of exactly how much pressure it is today - I was carrying Adam in his sling and thought cripes, he's HEAVY, what a weight... yet he's only between 12 and 13lb! I am carrying on my body twice that weight extra compared to what I'm used to, and of course it was more like three times that much not so long ago, and all gained in a very short space of time - no wonder my knees are unhappy!

I sometimes think about going on a strict diet, just to kickstart things... but I just really need to eat better in the evenings. If I ate half as much at night as usual, that would constitute a pretty strict diet. I don't usually get much chance to eat in the daytime, today I had 2 little bags of McCoys crisps, but normally it's 3 oatcakes.

As for thumb-sucking - Adam hasn't shown any preference to a thumb, he's concentrating on getting his whole fist in his gob! Lots and lots of drooling and dribbling, but I read it's all just gearing them up for digesting solids, and a side-effect of all the fist-chewing. No sign of teeths here, am sort of dreading the red cheeks and misery... hope Vince is ok, and Lucas (TMR and Shadow, how are you both?)

Oh, I had the most bizarre situation with a pack of 3-6 month old sleepsuits from Sainsbury's - got them out and they swamped poor Adam! a mis-labelled batch, for sure, 10cm longer than their other 3-6 mo sleepsuits. I rang up and got a refund (and kept them, reckon he'll fit them when he's about 9 months old, poss more).

ok, I should go to bed now...

 

[Vici]

jelr - thanks hunni. I'm hoping that'll be the case. Wedding was set for 10.10.10 but we cancelled everything. We're now keeping our options open because of money! I was hoping you girls wouldn't laugh, but i'm so much bigger than you lot. I may ask for my metformin again as this seems to help with stablising my insulin levels caused by my PCOS (I have it pretty bad!). My doc has also said if I lose some on my own, she will prescibe me some alli (much higher dose than you can get from chemist!) so thats also an incentive

MJ - Imi doesn't get her full "quota" of milk either as she often only has 4 bottles and hers are still 180ml. I do think i will up to 210ml very soon tho. When she was last weighed she was 13lb2oz and still over the 75th percentile so i'm not too worried. I suppose as long as they are growing at a good rate, the amount they have doesn't matter We have a few homemade biscuits and about 1/4 of a sponge cake left and i've told DF i'm not making anymore, well, unless he keeps them in his van I don't want to be too strict with myself as I know this just gets me down, so i need to try and gain some will power!!

 

[ShadowRat]

Hey girls,

I feel totally crappy for having missed so much on here... I keep coming in and reading everything and just not having the energy to catch up, I'm sorry ladies Now it's built up so so much that I can't possibly catch up, but I miss you guys so much so I thought I'd just dive back in and hope that I can get back in with you all.

I'm interested in the weigh-in, but am worried... My emotions are an absolute wreck lately, think it must be cos of my pill or something, but I don't want to push myself too hard or I think I'll collapse in a puddle of stupid tears!!!
Vince is doing fine, after one day of really bad teething pains he seems much happier, maybe he's getting used to the nagging aches cos his cheeks are flushed, especially his right cheek, and his drooling is non stop so I do think he's teething.

Ugh, sorry guys, I'm feeling pretty pants right now, just wanted to get back on here and chat to you lovelies again. I miss you all so much!

Hope everyone is ok, sorry for going on about myself!!


Shadow xxx

 

[Vici]

I'm exactly the same hun, think this pill might have to be changed. Whici one are you on?

Glad you are all well xxx

 

[ShadowRat]

Thanks Vici

I'm on Ovranette, but used to be on Cilest and had an absolute nightmare on that one which was why I changed a few years ago. Ovranette had been fine for me, but since Vince was born my stupid emotions and hormones have got worse and worse, until now I'm feeling utterly miserable most of the time *Shadow feels sorry for herself!!*

But Ive been to my doc about it, and he said he thinks the best option is for me to get a coil fitted. I'm supposed to be on my period week this week, but instead I'm taking my pill through it so that I can make an appointment for the coil next week (cos my doc is away this week). I just really hope that it helps, I'm getting a bit desperate here, I just hate hate hate not being in control of my bloody emotions and poor Lee and Vince are having to put up with it all!

Anyway, hopefully this helps, in the meantime I'm just trying to keep myself busy and trying not to dwell on anything too much. Ugh, I hate being a woman sometimes, I never had any of this when I was preggers, maybe I need to get pregnant again quick! Hahaha.. I guess that kinda comes with a catch eh?!?

x x x x

 

[ShadowRat]

You're having the same trouble, Vici? It sucks doesn't it?? I wonder whether it's just normal at this stage after a pregnancy...

 

[Vici]

I am only on mini pill as doc wouldn't put me back on normal one coz of my high BP during pregnancy (it had come down but was back up again last viist). I've never taken this one before!! My sex drive is zero since starting it and that combined with my moods, DF must be miserable

 

[ShadowRat]

awwww you gonna change pill if you can? xx

 

[grumpymoo]

Well I am not on the pill but my emotions are always all over the place anyway!

Hate it when i have a dodgy day (like today) as i always start worrying if i am doing the right thing for Rose, same things every time. Am I feeding her too often, should she be better at sleeping, do i give her too much attention (or not enough when i am trying to do the chores) etc etc blah blah blah

I also start to worry about going back to work (in 5 months time!) money etc etc. Its soooo boring and such a waste of time but sometimes it just cant be helped!

SO- poor Shadow. i am so with you. plus it doesn't help if you are feeling poorly a lot. I would say don't worry and give yourself a break And Vici, whats a sex drive? I just cant remember!

 

[Mary Jo]

Awwwww, Shadow, Vici, grumpymoo all round. you poor things. I'm so sorry you're all feeling down... poo on hormones

I missed you, Shadow, hoped you were super busy and happy and stuff... gah. I've been hoping to catch you, as I had some questions for you (just cloth and formula things!) oh, and don't fret about the weigh-in thing, plenty of time for all that when you're feeling better. glad to hear Vince is doing well and the teeths aren't bothering him (I had been wondering if he'd been leading you a merry dance!)

I'm not on any pill either, and most of the time I feel fine, but the last week or so, with Adam not seeming to want to bf (though he's not consistent, some days he'll feed for 30 mins, others I'm lucky if he'll do 2) I do feel a bit down. I knew this day would come, but I think I am going to carry on expressing till I can get nothing out at all... I just have this need. it's finding the time that's the issue, and I know that expressing every few hours sends the signals to make more, but then I get more out if I leave it till once a day... oh well.

Vici, I forgot to say last night, I like the red and green nappy pattern best, it's Christmassy, and thus appropriate for a Secret Santa!

And thanks for reassuring me about the formula thing - I guess some babies just don't want as much as others...

 

[Mary Jo]

another thing. I am getting a bit fed up with daytime telly! it's not that I don't like it but I am sick of seeing the same people on each of the chat-type programmes. doing the circuit plugging their book/record/film. am just watching This Morning and Martine McCutcheon is on, talking about her novel, but I heard all about last night when she was on Paul O'Grady! Or was it Alan Titchmarsh... she is saying the EXACT SAME THINGS. Gah.

We need to get out more. I am making plans for next week with 2 friends, but they both want to see us Monday! I would rather spread it out. Will have to suggest another time to one of them.

 

[jelr]

Hey girls I'm getting on at a better hour today - Natasha is asleep so I said I would jump on before we head to the osteopath.

MJ: Natasha is also on 4 bottles and only 210 mls (7 oz) and she doesn't always take all of it - especially the first feed. she tends to drink between 20 and 24 oz a day 600 mls and 720 mls a day - I always offer her an oz more than the full amount that she takes for example her biggest bottle was always 6 oz - 180 mls so we offer her 210 mls - the last few days she has been drinking a few 7 oz 210 ones so I am going to start making up 8 oz - 240 ml ones - it does mean some wastage but at least I know she is always getting what she wants - she is putting on weight so it must be enough for her - I used to worry at the start but I dont anymore as she keeps putting on weight - Adam sounds like he is doing great and getting plenty. Sorry to hear you may have to stop breastfeeding and are feeling a bit down about it - I hope you can continue to express for as long as possible.

Vici: ah Imi will be a lot older by the time you have your honeymoon so I would say you will feel better for leaving her although you will probalby both still miss her. Honey I honestly dont think anybody here will laugh and if they did they shouldn't be on this forum - we have all just given birth and most of us are not happy with our bodies so nobody has the right to laugh. I didn't realise you had PCOD also - No wonder you are battling with your weight - It really is so easy to put it on with PCOD and a nightmare to lose it again - I also see now how come you had so much trouble when TTC - I think that is why our babies are so special as they are miracle babies really - thats what I keep telling my mam when she says she doesn't get to mind Natasha enough - I honestly never thought I would be able to have her so I'm not going to keeping handing her away to anyone. I'm so glad the metformin helps you, It did help me conceive but it never helped me lose weight unfortunately. I bet once you are back on the meds you will be flying it with the weight loss as you are doing well on your own so far.

Shadow: So sorry you are feeling pants - those hormones are such a pain - men dont realise how easy they have it - I suffer really bad with PMS about 10 tens before my periods are due and it lasts for a about 2 days and then I am back to normal but those 2 days are a nightmare so I dont envy you feeling this hormonal all the time - although DH tells me that I have it 3 weeks out of 4 lol - I have heard the coil is very good - I was meant to get it a few years ago as I was having periods for months but then they discovered I had PCOD which was causing it and I wasn't allowed to get it because of the hormones in it would probably make the PCOD worse. I really hope the change will help you.

Grumpymoo: Sorry to hear you are having a bad day - You are doing a terrific job with Rose as far as I can see so give yourself a pat on the back rather than questioning yourself all the time - I know it is hard though as it is all a guessing game with these LO's really as they can't tell us. I also hate the thoughts of going back to work and am worry about it already - I'm trying to tell myself to deal with it when it comes and to enjoy this time now rather than worrying but it doesn't always work.

Well I may run as Natasha has just woken up and I have left myself just enought time to get her ready and out the door and I can hear the little divil filling her nappy so I guess we will be late for the osteopath now lol

 

[Boothh]

hey guys, just a quick update,
the move went well, just having a bit of a problem, with the window wall in our room dripping with water, im on to the landlord waiting for a reply at the moment,
jesse weighs 16lb 7oz, hes really coming on with his eating its great,
he sleeps in his big boy cot, and hes even sleeping longer innit, he seems alot more settled with more room to sleep,
weve decided to try for another baby after christmas, so in the new year really, im so excited, cant wait for another new addition and cant wait to be pregnant again,
hope everyones doing good,

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