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Hi Leeze
Right, I am now on a laptop so here's a novel, heh heh.
I am sure you are doing a great job so please do not worry too much about potential "abandonment issues". I think it is healthy to have some time to yourself, doing your own thing and allowing Kia to hang out with pals her own age
I can imagine it is tough, especially as trying for a baby wasn't super easy, but please don't feel guilty. I know plenty of people who have great relationships with their mums (and dads) who worked whilst they grew up. I have no doubt that you are a wonderful mum.
Ooo, if you have baby no 2, that would be great. Have you and Mr Leeze thought about it? Decided on when (if) you want another? How old are you both again Leeze?
Right, as for me, my AMH suggests "low fertility". My FS and the nurse said that AMH measure ovarian reserve and not quality. But then I am confused as I appear to ovulate despite not many eggs being in my ovaries, so whats the problem? Technically my FS said we are unexplained. I just need to try hard to reeeeeeeeeeeelax.
I feel OK about the whole thing. I know "OK" is a bland word, but thats kinda how I feel. I do not want to stress out. I want to stay optimistic too. My FS suggested starting after the olympics as getting to/from the clinic for scans/tests will be a pain and stressful. Though TBH, I think it is cos hes going on leave early Aug. Either way, starting at the end of Aug works for me as I want to get my body into a good shape, not to mention my mindset.
In terms of the process, its all a bit hazy, which I am not too impressed about. That said, from reading the forums, everybody had the same experience. I will try to summarise:
- I am doing a stimulated cycle (ie with meds)
- I need to book a nurses appt before I start treatment - they will show me how to inject myself.
- I need to ring them on day 1 of AF.
- I go for a scan on day 2 so that they can check my lining.
- I go for scans/tests in the follicular cycle (doc said around 5 scans/blood tests usually).
- I take something called gonal f (to ripen eggs I think)
- I go for a scan around day 12 and if they see I am about to O, I take an Ovitrelle shot (which I think is to induce O)
- Hubby goes in to give sample, they wash it, and two hrs later inseminate me!
- Then we wait
- Then we jump for joy when I see my BFP! Haha.
The issue is, I do not know when my doc will have my treatment plan. I need that before I see the nurse and I hope the doc does it before he goes on holiday. I do not have a huge amount of faith in their admin process, it has to be said. But the doc seems to know his stuff, the clinic is good (Bridge Fertility Centre) and close-ish to my office so I can pop in for scans and bloodwork etc without too much trouble. Plus I have all my scan results there and had the consultations with the doc.
One issue I have is that I am worried my doc doesnt read my file properly. He said we need to do additional tests before they can start (regulation rules, which is absolutely fine). However, he asked me to do prolactin, hep B & hep C. But I have done those and he has the results. Admittedly, during my second consultation he explained my AMH results and saline scan results. I asked him for suggestions on next steps. He suggested IUI and then said we need to do more tests to satisfy regulations. Rather than tell us to do them with the clinic (and therefore pay), he wrote me a letter to take to my GP to request the blood tests. He typed it up there and then. Whilst I appreciate the speed meant he didnt read down all my results properly to see that I had those tests done recently already, I still felt a little bit miffed. I realised when I got home that I definitely had them done and was about to email him to check if I needed to do it again. But I have decided to leave it. Just going to request the tests with my GP so they are the latest date seeing as I def have to do a few other blood tests.
In the mean time, trying to have a healthier lifestyle (not doing a good job right now as its 130am!) Yoga, good sleep, hot bath at night, eat organic, acupuncture. I found an acupuncturist closer to home and a helluva lot cheaper than Zita West (£30 vs £80). The cheaper one specialises in infertility also and is based in Wimbledon. Also going to get my mum to make me dong gui soup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_sinensis). I am Chinese- did I ever tell you that? I am a bit anaemic and my periods have been light. Dong gui works to nourish the blood. My FS is fine with alternative therapies like yoga, meditation, acupuncture. But against herbal meds as you dont know what goes into it. I agree and do not intend to buy "teas" from the herbal shop I will be doing my acupuncture at, but the dong gui thing is a dried root veg that you buy and its made by my mama so I am OK with that. Mind you, only taking it next cycle, not during my IUI cycle as I will be on western meds.
The issue is... I tried to get my work up straight so my next two months will be chilled at work. But got told on Weds I have been urgently seconded to another team to help them with an urgent project. Career wise great - stress wise and thus IUI wise, not great! Ho hum.
Right, I am now on a laptop so here's a novel, heh heh.
I am sure you are doing a great job so please do not worry too much about potential "abandonment issues". I think it is healthy to have some time to yourself, doing your own thing and allowing Kia to hang out with pals her own age
I can imagine it is tough, especially as trying for a baby wasn't super easy, but please don't feel guilty. I know plenty of people who have great relationships with their mums (and dads) who worked whilst they grew up. I have no doubt that you are a wonderful mum. Ooo, if you have baby no 2, that would be great. Have you and Mr Leeze thought about it? Decided on when (if) you want another? How old are you both again Leeze?
Right, as for me, my AMH suggests "low fertility". My FS and the nurse said that AMH measure ovarian reserve and not quality. But then I am confused as I appear to ovulate despite not many eggs being in my ovaries, so whats the problem? Technically my FS said we are unexplained. I just need to try hard to reeeeeeeeeeeelax.
I feel OK about the whole thing. I know "OK" is a bland word, but thats kinda how I feel. I do not want to stress out. I want to stay optimistic too. My FS suggested starting after the olympics as getting to/from the clinic for scans/tests will be a pain and stressful. Though TBH, I think it is cos hes going on leave early Aug. Either way, starting at the end of Aug works for me as I want to get my body into a good shape, not to mention my mindset.
In terms of the process, its all a bit hazy, which I am not too impressed about. That said, from reading the forums, everybody had the same experience. I will try to summarise:
- I am doing a stimulated cycle (ie with meds)
- I need to book a nurses appt before I start treatment - they will show me how to inject myself.
- I need to ring them on day 1 of AF.
- I go for a scan on day 2 so that they can check my lining.
- I go for scans/tests in the follicular cycle (doc said around 5 scans/blood tests usually).
- I take something called gonal f (to ripen eggs I think)
- I go for a scan around day 12 and if they see I am about to O, I take an Ovitrelle shot (which I think is to induce O)
- Hubby goes in to give sample, they wash it, and two hrs later inseminate me!
- Then we wait
- Then we jump for joy when I see my BFP! Haha.
The issue is, I do not know when my doc will have my treatment plan. I need that before I see the nurse and I hope the doc does it before he goes on holiday. I do not have a huge amount of faith in their admin process, it has to be said. But the doc seems to know his stuff, the clinic is good (Bridge Fertility Centre) and close-ish to my office so I can pop in for scans and bloodwork etc without too much trouble. Plus I have all my scan results there and had the consultations with the doc.
One issue I have is that I am worried my doc doesnt read my file properly. He said we need to do additional tests before they can start (regulation rules, which is absolutely fine). However, he asked me to do prolactin, hep B & hep C. But I have done those and he has the results. Admittedly, during my second consultation he explained my AMH results and saline scan results. I asked him for suggestions on next steps. He suggested IUI and then said we need to do more tests to satisfy regulations. Rather than tell us to do them with the clinic (and therefore pay), he wrote me a letter to take to my GP to request the blood tests. He typed it up there and then. Whilst I appreciate the speed meant he didnt read down all my results properly to see that I had those tests done recently already, I still felt a little bit miffed. I realised when I got home that I definitely had them done and was about to email him to check if I needed to do it again. But I have decided to leave it. Just going to request the tests with my GP so they are the latest date seeing as I def have to do a few other blood tests.
In the mean time, trying to have a healthier lifestyle (not doing a good job right now as its 130am!) Yoga, good sleep, hot bath at night, eat organic, acupuncture. I found an acupuncturist closer to home and a helluva lot cheaper than Zita West (£30 vs £80). The cheaper one specialises in infertility also and is based in Wimbledon. Also going to get my mum to make me dong gui soup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_sinensis). I am Chinese- did I ever tell you that? I am a bit anaemic and my periods have been light. Dong gui works to nourish the blood. My FS is fine with alternative therapies like yoga, meditation, acupuncture. But against herbal meds as you dont know what goes into it. I agree and do not intend to buy "teas" from the herbal shop I will be doing my acupuncture at, but the dong gui thing is a dried root veg that you buy and its made by my mama so I am OK with that. Mind you, only taking it next cycle, not during my IUI cycle as I will be on western meds.
The issue is... I tried to get my work up straight so my next two months will be chilled at work. But got told on Weds I have been urgently seconded to another team to help them with an urgent project. Career wise great - stress wise and thus IUI wise, not great! Ho hum.
Leeze
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Hi sweetie, thanks for your lovely supportive words about the whole childcare malarky. I think I'm starting to feel a bit better about it actually, and think it will probably be good for me to have 'a break' for a bit each week! It will be really strange though! Re TTC again, mostly I think I do want to try for another, then when I have a week of bad sleep I'm not so sure. We've said so far that if we do go for it then we'll probably start trying towards the end of the year. Or maybe NTNP for a few months then TTC at the start of next year. My periods haven't come back yet as I'm still breastfeeding so this is another factor to consider. I'm nearly 40 and Mr L is 48 so we can't hang around if we're going to try for another! So, I think it sounds like a great plan to wait till after the olympics and good that you're feeling ok about it all. I would try not to worry too much that the consultant forgot he'd ordered your tests already, he's probably just being very thorough or I a bit forgetful. Either way, it's a good idea to get them done again. Also, fantastic idea to get in good shape over next month. And seriously, enjoy your time with Mr MK8. Go to cinema, out for dinner, theatre, sit by river, lie in bed etc. You didn't mention you're Chinese, I'm not sure we ever spoke about heritage. That herb sounds really interesting, great that it's got such powerful properties - are you sure you're not going to TTC the next. cycle anyway though coz the link said it's considered by some to bring about miscarriage. Need to go just now, Kia quite unsettled. Chat soon though xx
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Ok, back again. Kia feeding again. We seem to be having a late one tonight. We'd got into earlyish nights recently but still have the odd one where she won't settle. So, is your Mum nearby? Does she know you're TTC? My Mum lives a few hundred miles away and I didn't really speak to her about TTC because she's got some health issues of her own and sometimes I find it difficult to ask her for support in case it worries her. Yeah, and back to heritage ... people often mistake me for Turkish or Italian, because I've got some Maltese in my ancestry and it's been quite dominant in my family as most of us have olive skin and very dark eyes. Kia's got some Austrian in her too through my OH's side and they've also got quite olive skin and dark eyes so I've already been asked about her heritage too. I like it, to me it makes us a bit exotic! Half my family are actually Scottish too, so I've always considered myself British rather than English! I'm rambling a bit really now! So, do you think your new work situation will be more stressful? Is there any chance because you're taking on a new remit that you can take it more slowly at first, while you get to know the project? Keeping it all crossed for you. That BFP has got to be on its way soon! Xx
Ladies,
I am a rubbish thread pal. Been so crap at everything online for ages...just down to generally being rubbish at time management. When I did get onto this site had issues finding the thread or logging in, anyway have caught up now and have been thinking of you.
Mk8-wow you've been through the mill. Not quite sure how you must be feeling now? mixed bag of emotions I guess? I hooe in there there is some excitement at the proospect of the IUI-like Leeze I have frieneds who this ws successful for first go. With your results are they basically saying that you have a slightly ow average amount of eggs for your age-BUT that they are not too low to stop you conceiving hence putting you in the "unexplained category"?
Leeze-great news on the house front-you must be excited about it all beginning. Sorry to hear sleep has taken a back step....is she waking hungry or just unsettled? It's such a difficult issue isnt it s sleep deprivtion effects you so much more than you can imagine, your mood, your health, your emotional state etc. Anyhow your little lady hs always been a great sleeper so sure she will get back to it soon. I can empathise with you on the going back to work front. Like you we have done al the maths and the figures don't add up unless I go back...so I have to...and in some ways I think it wil be good for me and my llittle boy and in others I cnnot bear the thought of leaving him and can't imagine how I will cope! m also still breastfeeding and I think that makes it harder to imagine being apart from them for any period of time.
All ok here-we've had to change our lifestyle a lot so I can extend my time off work...no treats or shopping or hols etc, baked beans for dinner a lot etc. Its so worht it though nd am enjoying hunting out bargains and walking everywhere. I also love motherhood but also find it so overwhleming at times. I have a gorgeous, active, inquisitive boy so am constantly on the go with him.
Thinking of you ladies.
I am a rubbish thread pal. Been so crap at everything online for ages...just down to generally being rubbish at time management. When I did get onto this site had issues finding the thread or logging in, anyway have caught up now and have been thinking of you.
Mk8-wow you've been through the mill. Not quite sure how you must be feeling now? mixed bag of emotions I guess? I hooe in there there is some excitement at the proospect of the IUI-like Leeze I have frieneds who this ws successful for first go. With your results are they basically saying that you have a slightly ow average amount of eggs for your age-BUT that they are not too low to stop you conceiving hence putting you in the "unexplained category"?
Leeze-great news on the house front-you must be excited about it all beginning. Sorry to hear sleep has taken a back step....is she waking hungry or just unsettled? It's such a difficult issue isnt it s sleep deprivtion effects you so much more than you can imagine, your mood, your health, your emotional state etc. Anyhow your little lady hs always been a great sleeper so sure she will get back to it soon. I can empathise with you on the going back to work front. Like you we have done al the maths and the figures don't add up unless I go back...so I have to...and in some ways I think it wil be good for me and my llittle boy and in others I cnnot bear the thought of leaving him and can't imagine how I will cope! m also still breastfeeding and I think that makes it harder to imagine being apart from them for any period of time.
All ok here-we've had to change our lifestyle a lot so I can extend my time off work...no treats or shopping or hols etc, baked beans for dinner a lot etc. Its so worht it though nd am enjoying hunting out bargains and walking everywhere. I also love motherhood but also find it so overwhleming at times. I have a gorgeous, active, inquisitive boy so am constantly on the go with him.
Thinking of you ladies.
Leeze
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Clanger, lovely to hear from you. I know what you mean about cutting down on expenses. I'm now into the 3 month period where I've got no money coming in except for Child Benefit! So, MK8 - how are you doing? How's it all going preparing for the IUI? X
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Hi ladies, sorry for not posting. I ended up taking time out from bnb. It wasn't a conscious decision, I just kinda couldn't be bothered! I felt I was thinking too much you know? Well I'm prepping for iui and hoping for the best.
I hope you yummy mummies are doing well. X
I hope you yummy mummies are doing well. X
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Great to hear from you. I got a bit worried. Totally understand about taking time out. Sometimes I think I should but I don't really know what else to talk about these days so always end up back on BnB! One day I'll re-discover other interests, I hope! So, are you doing the IUI on the next cycle? How are you feeling? Doing anything special in preparation? Keeping it all crossed for you xx
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Hi leeze, youre so sweet. How have u been? How is little kia? Tell me about you guys!
Im ok, just kinda chilling really. Im trying hard to relax, eat better and exercise (light exercise). Im also trying to be as hopeful as possible. Other than that, kinda nothing to report. Waiting to see whens a good time to do iui. Feel like we need to be ready you know?
Im ok, just kinda chilling really. Im trying hard to relax, eat better and exercise (light exercise). Im also trying to be as hopeful as possible. Other than that, kinda nothing to report. Waiting to see whens a good time to do iui. Feel like we need to be ready you know?
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Would it be ok if I joIn?
Laura, 24, Woolwich. TTC since jan 2012 with sperm donor (lesbian couple)
Laura, 24, Woolwich. TTC since jan 2012 with sperm donor (lesbian couple)
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Hi MK8. Good to hear from you. Sounds like you got the right attitude there. Any idea how you'll know it's the right time? We're ok. Teething hell at the moment so terrible sleep and i'm exhausted. But still very much worth it. Xx Hi Laura, you'd be welcome to join us although this isn't the most active of threads at the moment! Xx
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Hi guys,
I'm back, married and ttcing again yay!
I'm back, married and ttcing again yay!
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Hey MK! 
Been referred back to the ACU, YAY! Got my appointment Monday. However, since I booked my appointment over a week ago, I've been spotting on and off 
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Not tested, don't think there is much of a chance of it being a BFP but dunno what's going on really. I bought some tests this morning though, so maybe I will tomorrow.
How about you, what's next?
Been referred back to the ACU, YAY! Got my appointment Monday. However, since I booked my appointment over a week ago, I've been spotting on and off .Not tested, don't think there is much of a chance of it being a BFP but dunno what's going on really. I bought some tests this morning though, so maybe I will tomorrow.
How about you, what's next?
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IUI is not so scary, good success rates 
. Do you know when you start?
. Do you know when you start?
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Prolly to find out what this spotting is, day 1-5 tests and probably round of clomid...
I caved and tested this morning after my temp rose quite a bit. BFN
How comes works so busy? Luckily I am temping. Makes it really convenient for appointments.
I caved and tested this morning after my temp rose quite a bit. BFN
How comes works so busy? Luckily I am temping. Makes it really convenient for appointments.
