Low dropping levels but HB found?

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Don't forget that if you are (fingers crossed), eggy may have implanted a little later, so needs more time to produce enough hCG to be picked up on a test. I hope AF stays away.

My AF (if cycles gone back to normal) is due Sept 18th. Some part of me hopes for a surprise again but, I don't think OH would be too pleased lol. We've been using condoms, but hey, they're never 100%! I just wish we could TTC :'(

 

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Thanks for your optimism. I do hope I might have just implanted late and it's taking longer to show up. But I'm sure that's wishful thinking. At least with testing today I have been able to brace myself for my perio coming rather than having it be a total depressing surprise. =/

I know how you feel with hoping for another accident! Maybe one of these days your hubby will get caught up in the moment and not want to use a condom and you'll get preg! I wish your husband would agree to TTC.

 

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I have bought 4 tests over the course of a week and gotten all negatives (I was feeling very hopeful, as you can see lol, plus I'm addicted to POAS). So at least if AF shows up, I wont be so bummed..

But at least you're still in with a chance If not, there's always next cycle

Yes me too Think I have a while off before he comes around to the idea. At least not until we move into a bigger place, which isn't in the near future -sigh-

 

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Haha, oh my! You really were serious about being addicted! Testing when you're not even TTC brings addiction to a whole new level! ahah. Tomorrow is the "big day" of my period being due, so I will let you know what happens. Hopefully I don't have to bring you bad news...but if there is, all I can do is just try again for next month. If I have to try again this cycle, my due date will be June 16th. Not bad at all. But I'd really like to get pregnant before July preferably! I don't really want a July due date because my birthday and our wedding anniversary are both in July, and I just know that if we had a kid's birthday on top of those, we'd never get to celebrate properly again. ahah.

That sucks it's going to be a while to convince him. Do you guys have a plan for when you might move into a bigger place? Do you own your current place or are you renting?

I guess I'll be waiting to hear your news as well this month since you're testing!

 

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Hahaha oh dear, yes that would be a lot to celebrate in one month!! My birthdays in December two weeks before Christmas, then Hunter is January and I thought that was bad enough haha. I'm sure OH will be broke by February I hope you get your BFP before July then

Are you usually pretty dead on when AF is due? I am always between 27-29 days. I have told myself no more testing unless AF is late lol. I really think I need to buy internet cheapies just for my addiction. Tests here range from $10-$25 depending on the brand. :/ Woops ahha.

We're renting, we both have personal loans, so buying a house at the moment would be really tough. Our lease runs up in December, but I don't see us having the money to be able to move again by then. OHs friend just bought a place, there's people living in it at the moment and they've signed up for another 6 month lease, if they leave in February, they want to do it up a bit and then once its done, he said we could move in. So that just means we'd have to sign up to the current place we're in for another 6-12 months until that place is ready

 

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Ooh, yep, December is another month I'd want to avoid! That definitely sounds busy with your birthday, Christmas, and Hunter's birthday so close together.

I am usually dead-on about when AF is due as long as I keep track of when I Oed. My cycles range from 25-27 cycles, but my LP is always 13 days so since I'm fairly certain I ovulated late Aug 26th, I should be due for AF today. I know I am out now because my temps dropped drastically today, as they should when AF is arriving. AF isn't here yet, but I am not expecting it until this evening or even tomorrow morning. Sigh.

Tests here are SOOO expensive here as well...about $10-25 as well. I wasn't even going to test today but then I wanted to test at lunch just to make sure since they are using some sort of paint thinner in the office today. Unfortunately, I tried the test when I didn't really have to pee, so now I've wasted a $10 test! I am so annoyed. I should probably buy some internet cheapies too. This is getting ridiculous...

Yeah, we are are renting our home as well and also have significant loans to pay off (dh racked up a ton of student debt but didn't finish his schooling ), so I totally get you on that one! We won't be buying a house for a very long time.

That is too bad you'll have to renew your lease again for another 6-12 months before you move again. Is your current place just 2 bedrooms?

 

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I wouldn't actually know how long my LP is. I only guess my ovulation by the ovulation pains I get and figure it will happen within a few days haha. I actually downloaded a cycle tracker to my phone so I can start natural family planning, because at least if I understand my cycle better now to avoid pregnancy until OH is ready, I will then know what my cycle is exactly like for when we do start to TTC! If that makes sense?

Awww damn! I'm sorry I wonder when AF will show her ugly face. Well, there's always next cycle Maybe you can invest in some internet cheapies for that cycle and you can pee to your hearts desire without the guilt of spending so much haha.

Yes Loans suck. I have one for a breast augmentation I had done at 19, still paying it off and for my car. So still a good 18k left to pay off. And OH has racked up a bit for cars in the past as well, so he's roughly the same. Would LOVE our own house but it's a bit impossible atm.

Our current place is 3 bedroom, but the third is a storage room for all of our stuff that we can't fit into anywhere else! Its a bit of an obstacle course actually OH is a hoarder, so a lot of it is stuff he doesn't want to get rid of but we have no use for :/

 

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Don't worry - I wouldn't have known but since we've been TTC I have been tracking my cycles religiously - temping, using OPKS, tracking CM, CP, etc. It has definitely opened my eyes to a lot of things and I feel a lot more in tune with my body now! I always get ovulation pains as well, but I find that sometimes they are more pronounced and I know exactly what time I've ovulated, and then sometimes they are a lot less clear and they kind of just hurt for a couple days so I'm not sure (just based on the pains alone) when I've ovulated. So it definitely helps to temp and such. That sounds great that you're going to try natural family planning. It is great to get to know your cycle, and it really will be perfect for when you eventually try to conceive!

Haha Yes...I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet! I wish it were easier to order internet cheapies. I don't think they have them at amazon.ca so I have to order from amazon.com and paying duty and shipping makes the "cheapies" not so cheap anymore. Where do you order from?

Yep, we have a similar amount of debt as well. It's very unfortunate. Sometimes it feels like it will never get paid off! And it isn't exactly "fun" making large debt payments every month, so sometimes it gets tempting to spend our money in more frivolous ways. :S But...no need to worry! We will own our own houses when it's time and there's no reason to feel bad about the place we're in now! We're working hard to pay off our debt and that's what counts.

Haha, that sounds like our house! Our place has 3 bedrooms, but we use our 3rd bedroom as a computer room and for storage. If we had to move a child into this room, we would have NO WHERE to put our computer desks...like...no where. Our house would be so cramped and crowded. So when we move to a "bigger" place it might still only have 3 bedrooms, but we will have to find something with a basement that can be used for storage and extra space, and the bedrooms on a different floor (right now our bedrooms are in the basement...giving us no storage space)!

Maybe sometime you can convince your hubby to go through some of his stuff to give away and you can have a garage sale and make some more room in your place? I know I feel so frustrated when things are too crowded!

 

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Yes! I'm really keen to actually get to know my cycle properly. All I have ever really known is how long it usually is and I judge O off O pains... So I'm going to start temping, checking CM and CP as well. Give me a few months and I'll be pro at it and ready to get back to baby making once OH gives the OK I was doing groceries getting Hunter some more baby food and had to walk past the pregnancy test section, oh god, the willpower I had to use to refrain from buying more!! I have a realy problem!!

Ohhh That stinks. Have you tried looking on eBay? That's where I was going to purchase them from. I was thinking about buying some OPKs as well so it will help me the first few months to determine when I'm ovulating. Because I still find the whole process a bit confusing with temping etc. So at least if I have a +OPK, I will get a better idea? I think you can get them in packs of hCG and LH tests off eBay! Not sure what shipping costs are like though.

It really does suck. Once we have paid our bills for the week and bought LOs formula, nappies and food, we are pretty much living on the bare minimum. And its not like we're on bad income either. Our loan repayments are just painful!

Hahaha it's ridiculous isn't it! Ours has my old bed in it, I have contemplated getting rid of it, but OH wants to keep it for visitors like when his mum or dad come and stay. But thats what takes up a large majority of the room. It also has my pilates machine and heaps of boxes of old crap of OHs. We don't even have room for a computer desk in there, our computer desk sits on our kitchen bench LOL. Which we will have to do something about once Hunter starts crawling because the cords are dangling from the bench to the floor. I have been pestering OH over the last few weeks to do something about it.

 

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Wonderful! You'll definitely be a pro soon! And excellent restraint on not buying more pregnancy tests! It really is *so* hard to resist. I definitely recommend OPKs. I've still been using them even though I chart everything else, because temps aren't very good at predicting O before it happens - it just confirms it after the fact. So I find OPKs helpful in getting your timing just perfect. CM of course helps as well with that.

I could definitely try eBay, although I've always been sort of nervous about ordering from there. Have you ever been scammed?

Yikes, that sucks. Loan repayments are sooo crappy. I hate living on way less when we actually make a decent income! It seems like we're always broke as well...although we do indulge in eating out a bit too often.

Oh dear! AHaha, yes, you'll definitely have to find a new place for that computer when Hunter starts crawling. Do you think he's close to that yet? I never have any idea when babies are supposed to start crawling. I only know that they seem to start walking between 10-14 mos.

 

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See CM really confuses me!! But then again I have never really tracked my cycle so maybe once I start, I will know when it changes I had peeiod like pains this morning and thought maybe AF was coming early but so far nothing.

No I havent but I only use Paypal to make payments for anything so its quite secure

Hahahaha dont worry. We are quite guilty od this
Especially the nights where OH and I have both worked and cant be stuffed to cook!! I try to prepare meals on my days off and freeze them but sometimes I run out quicker then expected so yeah, we are bad for take away

Hahaha I know! Its terrible. He isnt far off. For the last month he has been getting on his hands and knees and rocking. Now he moves one knee then the other but he cant quite work out his hands yet haha.

 

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Another girl on this forum recently posted a link in how to check CP, CM, etc. I didn't read it too carefully but it did look helpful if you are just starting out. Maybe it might help you:
https://community.babycenter.com/po...cp_and_cervical_mucus_cm_type_for_your_charts
That's weird about the cramps and no period. Hopefully you don't get your period early, as that's always a shame! Sometimes I get weird cramps quite in advance of my period and then they go away and my period doesn't show up for a few days.

That is a really good idea to cook and freeze meals on your days off. I really wish I could get motivated to do that, as it seems like it would make life much easier. Thankfully, my hubby does share in the cooking responsibilities so it's not like I have to cook every meal. But the amount of times that we're both too lazy to cook is a bit embarrassing lately. I'm glad we're not the only ones!

Awww, that's so cute. Sounds like he'll be crawling before you know it!

 

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Oh wow, that site is great! Thanks for that. I went out and bought one of those BBT thermometers and I'm going to order those ovulation tests too I told OH all about how I was going to use this for natural contraception until we're ready and how the ovulation tests tell you if you are ovulating etc and he scratched his head confused and was like, so every time we have DTD you are gonna go pee on a test first? LOL. So clueless.

Well still nothing today Hate when you don't know when AF is going to arrive, cos it will most likely happen at the most inconvenient time lol.

Haha I was meant to do my meal prep today but had to go to the shops before OH started work at 2pm, so I thought I'd take my time. Going to the shops on my own is like a vacation lol! So by the time I got home, I had no time to cook anything Might have to make some mini pizzas for dinner and scavange the cupboards for something to take to work tomorrow haha.

Well today he moved one knee, then one hand, then the other knee and as he went to move his other hand he face planted it, poor thing But he's getting closer!! Scary

 

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I'm glad the site helped! Excellent that you are ordering the ovulating tests and got a BBT thermometer. I had such a hard time finding a BBT thermometer at first. I was looking in the section with the fever thermometers and was so confused why I couldn't find one. It never occurred to me that they would be in the family planning section! haha. I ended up finding them accidentally, thank goodness! And that is so funny about your hubby's cluelessness. Oh, silly boy!


That sucks you don't know when AF will arrive. Hopefully it doesn't start in the middle of work or something. One perk of doing NFP will be that you will be able to predict when AF arrives a lot better!

HAHA! I don't blame you for taking your sweet time shopping instead of prepping for supper. I would have done that too. It's nice that your hubby watches Hunter so that you can do the shopping in peace. Mini pizzas sounds like a good idea. I hate how I always have to suffer the next day at work for not cooking the night before. Usually I end up resorting to ichiban noodles on those days.

Aww!! He's definitely getting there! Poor guy, though! So many failures he'll have to go through before he gets it right. Babies are tough cookies!

 

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Hahahaha!! Yes! Thankfully my best friend works in a chemist so I knew where to go I expected them to be really dear but it was only $19. Now I just have to remember to do it every morning before I get up!!

Yeah well this will be my first natural AF since the MC in July. So I am guessing it will be out of wack from it and a month of the Pill. Just wish it would hurry up so I could get it over with!! Has AF arrived for you yet?

Hahaha I know! In the end, I had to take the day off work anyway. Hunter has explosive diarrhoea so he cant go to daycare. So I guess while he naps, I will do all meal preps then.

 

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Yes, they aren't too terribly expensive. It is sort of hard to get used to temping every day...and I for one find it a little bit annoying that it's supposed to be at the same time every day. Mine is never at the same time on weekends, but I find that the general trend still stays accurate so I don't worry too much.

Yeah, you definitely might be out of whack then. Ooh, did I not mention AF started? It hit me on Tuesday this week. My AFs have definitely changed since the m/c. I am now having three EXTREMELY heavy days of flow and passing an outrageous amount of clots wacko, but then it suddenly slows down to barely a drizzle by the 4th day. It is still lasting 6 days I think but it is much lighter for the 4th-6th day. So weird. My cramps also haven't been as bad...but I'm also chalking that up to taking fish oil like you recommended!

Ooh, that sucks poor Hunter had an upset tummy and you had to take the day off. That must be unpleasant. Although...sometimes I look forward to when I can get out of work because my kid is sick. Then again, explosive diarrhea is probably less fun to deal with than work.

 

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Yeah! Taking it at the same time every day for me will be impossible, Hunter never wakes up at the same time every day. I even forgot to do it this morning because as soon as I heard him crying, my natural reaction was to get up and tend to him. So mine will probably be a bit inaccurate until I remember to do it before I get up.

You did mention your temp dropped but hadnt heard if AF got you. Sorry to hear the witch came Fingers crossed for next cycle. Oh wow!! That does sound crazy. Glad to hear the fish oil is helping though I still have had no sign of AF. Had some back pain this morning. My cervix was still rather high and soft though but then when I check it later in the day, its lower and a bit firmer. I am so confused.

Yeah the explosive diarrhoea isnt fun. I have had to wash so many towels and jumpsuits because his nappies just overfill and it comes out everywhere! He hasnt been for a few hours now though so fingers crossed he is on the mend Because I have been feeling a little off myself, felt so nauseous last night and today. It must be going around

 

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DETTEROSE, WHAT IF YOU'RE PREGNANT!??!?!?!??! AF hasn't shown even though you have cramps, you feel nauseous, your CP was high and soft? (BTW, it will always be higher later at night so you should always check at the same time). You should test! Please, please test! Buahahha!


And, yes, I agree that taking it at slightly different times every day will just have to do for you. There's no way you can change that. They say the main thing is making sure you've slept for 3 hours solid before you temp, but that is also impossible for me because I always wake up so many times in the night to pee. DH gets up for work about 2 hours before I get up, so I never have more than a 2-hour sleep chunk before I temp (and, no, I'm not about to start testing at 5 am when he gets up because it'd wake me up way too much). I figure as long as it's consistent it shouldn't really matter. I've never noticed a huge difference from when I get a longer chunk of sleep. And, yes, you'll just have to wait until the habit of temping before getting up kicks in!

Thanks...I'm glad the fish oil helped too. I always had such bad cramps, and if those can be a bit milder I will be happy. Thanks for the support on AF getting me. I do hope this month is my month. I think I may go crazy if it's not? I really want this terribly bad.

Hope you start feeling better...unless of course the reason you're not feeling well is not a sickness at all.

 

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Hahahaha don't worry. We already ruled that out. OH went and bought a test last night and it was still negative. By my stopping the pill on Aug 21st, I should be due for AF on the 18th. So still a few more days. I kinda just want her to show up already and get it over with!

I know what you mean, I get up about 2 times through the night to pee and tend to Hunter so I am not sure if I get a good solid 3 hours! As long as they stay somewhere around the same temp I guess it wouldn't be too much of a big deal hey.

Have you thought about taking evening primrose oil as well? Those are great for PMS symptoms. This year is the first year I have pretty much stayed off contraception. I was on the Pill from about 15 til 18 then had the Implanon til I was 21 and got pregnant with Hunter that next month. And before I went on the Pill I had horrible cramps too, it was the reason I went on it, so I do think the fish oil and EPO helps big time for me

Awww Hun, I really hope you get your BFP with the next cycle. You deserve it so much!!!

 

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Hahah, aw, shucks! I got my hopes up. If it is not due yet then that makes sense but it's weird you're getting so many signs so far in advance. Are you feeling better today?

Yeah, I don't think a little deviation with your temp times/amounts of sleep really matter all that much.

I am not sure if I'll use the evening primrose oil. I've heard good things, but I'm lazy when it comes to taking supplements. You can't take it when you're pregnant I don't think so hopefully I'll just be pregnant this month and then I wouldn't think about evening primrose oil until after the baby is born! But I probably will try it eventually. I'm just glad the fish oil seems to be doing something.

Thanks. I really, really want this! So tired of waiting! Sigh. AF has slowed down to just spotting today so we will probably start BDing tonight or tomorrow!