Nurseries not preparing children for school - Ofsted

[shanny]

This made me cross today................what about the parents responsibilities in this?

To me this is a way of dodging other issues and using early years settings in totally the wrong way.

 

[Noodlebear]

I hate stuff like this. Let kids be kids, they start school when they're so little as it is. If I had my way they'd all start 'compulsory' education aged 7.

 

[Bex84]

I agree with they should start at 7. 4 is to young and i say this as someone who taught reception and primary. I would also say that i find it worrying the amount of training in early years for teachers. I actually did a qualiforcation (eyps) before teaching. There is some courses which concentrate on early years but alot of courses have hardly any training. Mine had half a day and didnt matter if you were sick. Foundation/ reception teaching is very different to ks1 and you also need to understand where children are coming frim education wise hence i think there are alot of teachers not trained well enough in early years where they should learn through play. Starting children at 4 gives them no educational benefits over those who start at 7. Nursery should be fun and full of play.

 

[tina3747]

Personally I think 4 is too young for a whole day at school but not necessarliy learning.I don't know why they don't split the reception year up into AM and PM, so there's smaller classes and a shorter day. I think the learning experience would be more beneficial for the first year and alot easier to adjust.
Nursery and pre school should be about learning through play and socialising, nothing more.

 

[Bex84]

I think another problem is mixed years. There is quite a few schools were i suppy taught and where i worked which had mixed reception and year one which isnt an easy mix when youngest could have just turned 4 and oldest 6 and possibly neer 7. I think a half day could work well

 

[shanny]

Are they going to make people send their kids to school at 2?

My kids have all had a mixture of being looked after by me and my OH, nanny and granny and some pre school and a childminder. I love that this has brought them a mixture of experiences.

I would not want this to change for my youngest.

I think this new idea will further encourage the school can sort it out ethos............

 

[lhancock90]

4 is so little, i can't even explain the dread i feel knowing Evelyns got just over a year and then shes gone all day 5 days a week

 

[Bex84]

I feel same about lo. She starts 2015 and only turns 4 at end of july in 2015

 

[Eternal]

I agree with starting at 7.

In this area they get nursery places at 3 and they are attached to schools, my school make it clear that absences are not acceptable, which I totally resent, how can you make a 3 rip year olds school attendance mandatory? I would much prefer them start officially at 7. My oldest has autism and so all the things the suggest children b able to do before school he fails on, it's far too young to push children into a one size fits all system.

 

[Tasha]

I really dont feel they need to be prepared by nurseries to go to school. They are so little when they go to school, what they are learning should be a natural progression at that age not forcing them to know certain things IMO.

Oh and I would certainly agree about the seven thing, my five year old frustrates the teachers in her school as she wont sit and learn for extended periods of time but she is so little. She is also so exhausted by the end of the school day.

 

[Natsku]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hool-age-seven-stop-damaged-soon-culture.html

 

[Noodlebear]

That's fab. I really hope some changes are made to all schools in the UK.

 

[Natsku]

It would be really good if they did. On the comments people were complaining that its not good because parents would have to pay for more years of childcare but I reckon it could work fine if they just extended nursery until 7 instead and increased the free hours

 

[Noodlebear]

It'd suck having to pay for longer, I have thought of that before so if the changes were made along with some sort of payment scheme that would be really win win. Ultimately I'd rather have to pay out for another few years than send him to school aged 5, what's best for my son is more important so those people need to get their priorities sorted imo.

 

[Natsku]

Increasing the free hours and/or making the payments on a sliding scale based on income, either way would work well I think and keep everybody happy.

 

[Noodlebear]

Most kids don't pay for school anyway so I'd be shocked if there wasn't some help that could be given if these changes are ever made. Crossing my fingers now...lol.