OT - Usama Bin Laden is DEAD!

And NOTHING is more against someone's human rights than taking away their life! Nothing at all.
 
We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.
 
Ok yeah, let's all condone torture and murder of criminals whilst simultaneously trying to assume the position of moral superiority.. Good luck with that one.

Iv never claimed to be morally superior. :shrug: i think the TERRORIST should of suffered.
 
Ok yeah, let's all condone torture and murder of criminals whilst simultaneously trying to assume the position of moral superiority.. Good luck with that one.

I dont try to be morally superior but I am still pleased he is dead.
I do condone torture when needed to protect the masses and I firmly believe we should bring back capital punishment.
I also believe we shall never agree on this point but thats ok.
 
I dont understand this thread. It is almost like most people are saying that he shouldnt have been killed????

No "eye for and eye" and "forgive"?????

Could we really let Osama Bin Liner be free and FORGIVE him???

Our society has many bad people-if we went around just forgiving them and letting them all be free most of us would be either dead or oppressed by now:shrug:

I dont give a feck what i hear on the TV-it all gets twisted. And as for the story constantly changing-of course it is. The world was told as soon as it happens and probably with not the whole story yet from the soldiers on the front line? It make sense that the story has changed as more details have been found out?

Sorry for all the rhetorical questions.

sorry - the above bolded part made me giggle :lol:

i still think he should have been captured ALIVE. and then stood trial in whatever country, and whatever punishment given to him after that. at least then we the people know exactly what has gone on and if in fact they did kill him
 
We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Perhaps and I probably would have been happy he is dead if I had lost someone in 7/7 but that wouldn't have made it okay. Once again I do think he should have been punished and imprisoned for life, of course I do! I just don't agree with murder in any situation.
 
We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Do me a favour and keep your assumptions to yourself love - not once have I ever mentioned my experience with terrorism so you are only assuming I have none.

You also bypassed the point I was making.
 
i feel anyone who takes another life/lives have no human rights left and should be made feel pain of the highest degree before dying once proven guilty 100%

as a prison officer once told me that ^^^ thats why i would never become a prison governer.
 
We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Perhaps and I probably would have been happy he is dead if I had lost someone in 7/7 but that wouldn't have made it okay. Once again I do think he should have been punished and imprisoned for life, of course I do! I just don't agree with murder in any situation.

I dont think it is okay either, but from an emotional point of view i can understand why so many are pleased he is dead.

But it makes me ask what WOULD be the ideal punishment for what he had done?
 
i feel anyone who takes another life/lives have no human rights left and should be made feel pain of the highest degree before dying once proven guilty 100%

as a prison officer once told me that ^^^ thats why i would never become a prison governer.

But surely that just condones murder?! Capital punishment just makes no sense to me at all.
 
Ok yeah, let's all condone torture and murder of criminals whilst simultaneously trying to assume the position of moral superiority.. Good luck with that one.

Iv never claimed to be morally superior. :shrug: i think the TERRORIST should of suffered.

I'm not talking about individuals, I am talking about society as a whole. How can we protest that these animals are wrong and yet behave just like them?
 
And NOTHING is more against someone's human rights than taking away their life! Nothing at all.

We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Do me a favour and keep your assumptions to yourself love - not once have I ever mentioned my experience with terrorism so you are only assuming I have none.

You also bypassed the point I was making.

oops-sorry- i thought i was having an adult conversation?
 
Ok yeah, let's all condone torture and murder of criminals whilst simultaneously trying to assume the position of moral superiority.. Good luck with that one.

I dont try to be morally superior but I am still pleased he is dead.
I do condone torture when needed to protect the masses and I firmly believe we should bring back capital punishment.
I also believe we shall never agree on this point but thats ok.

Again, I wasn't talking about individuals, but talking about society as a whole.

How would torture 'protect the masses' exactly? I can just about get my head around killing someone to protect people, but torturing them? Never.

And we will never agree, as I am totally against capital punishment, for many, many reasons.
 
And NOTHING is more against someone's human rights than taking away their life! Nothing at all.

We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Do me a favour and keep your assumptions to yourself love - not once have I ever mentioned my experience with terrorism so you are only assuming I have none.

You also bypassed the point I was making.

oops-sorry- i thought i was having an adult conversation?

And how exactly did my last comment make you think otherwise? I am asking you politely to keep your assumptions to yourself, as they are worthless within 'adult conversation'. :)
 
We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Exactly. Hands up if you have been affected by this war, or the terrorism acts?
I can no longer talk, hug or mess about with one of my best friends, my son will never get to know what a good person my friend was.
Some children wont get to know who their father/mother/brother/sister was. I feel pain. But the pain of people who have had a family member die is bound to be worse.
Of course the majority of these peolle want revenge. Why shouldnt they?
 
And NOTHING is more against someone's human rights than taking away their life! Nothing at all.

We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Do me a favour and keep your assumptions to yourself love - not once have I ever mentioned my experience with terrorism so you are only assuming I have none.

You also bypassed the point I was making.

oops-sorry- i thought i was having an adult conversation?

And how exactly did my last comment make you think otherwise? I am asking you politely to keep your assumptions to yourself, as they are worthless within 'adult conversation'. :)

I think perhaps it was the 'love' part?? No need for it really.
 
And NOTHING is more against someone's human rights than taking away their life! Nothing at all.

We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Do me a favour and keep your assumptions to yourself love - not once have I ever mentioned my experience with terrorism so you are only assuming I have none.

You also bypassed the point I was making.

oops-sorry- i thought i was having an adult conversation?

And how exactly did my last comment make you think otherwise? I am asking you politely to keep your assumptions to yourself, as they are worthless within 'adult conversation'. :)

I think perhaps it was the 'love' part?? No need for it really.

No need to call someone 'love'? My goodness, don't ever come to Nottingham or you'll be offended left, right and center! :dohh:
 
And NOTHING is more against someone's human rights than taking away their life! Nothing at all.

We don't think he should be forgiven or freed, we just don't agree with killing him! Surely that is not too difficult to understand?


There are many comments about not slapping the other cheek and about forgiveness, etc, etc. I have read the whole thing.

Would you prefer that he was sent to prison, assaulted, butt raped and continuosly attacked by other prisoners? Wouldnt that be more against his human rights? If hew as imprisoned that would be the likely outcome and he would likely get a bad deal from the police officers?

Are you really implying he was killed for his own benefit?

Not at all.

My hubby was injured on the aldgate train at the 7/7. If he had been mortally injured i would be happy to sit down to a bin laden al la carte dinner.

It is easy to be objective when you haven't had direct experience.

Do me a favour and keep your assumptions to yourself love - not once have I ever mentioned my experience with terrorism so you are only assuming I have none.

You also bypassed the point I was making.

oops-sorry- i thought i was having an adult conversation?

And how exactly did my last comment make you think otherwise? I am asking you politely to keep your assumptions to yourself, as they are worthless within 'adult conversation'. :)

I think perhaps it was the 'love' part?? No need for it really.

Tee hee. Apparently my having experience of an act of terrorism means nothing and is childish.

Ignored:flower:
 
I used to live there... Chetwynd Barracks. Nice place. All my family are down the 'road' in Melton Mowbray too. Seems assumptions are being made all over the shop today :haha:
It's very easy to have a word or phrase taken out of context on the internet.
 
Girls take it to pms if you have a problem with each other and get back on topic.
 

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