positive opk @ 8dpo...HELP!!!

[FngrsCrossed]

All I can do if PRAY that we caught the egg. My CM has switched to copious amounts of creamy CM. If I didn't ovulate that early then I am not that many days past ovulation, and that would make my CM observations weird for me at this point. I don't get creamy until it is time for AF to show her ugly face. I wish things were so much simpler than they are.

 

[L.E.]

I think CD12 may be your O day. That could've been a really big dip!! My thermometer IS from Walgreens. I was planning on going to Walmart today anyway, so I think I am going to pick up one from there like the one I had that died. My reg thermometer said 97.6 this morning. So we'll see how the new(but same as old) one does. I don't want to switch thermometers in the middle of the cycle, but I may have to. We'll see.

I did an opk with good concentration and it's similar to the first one yesterday. Decent but not close to positive. Pics were taken at about 12 mins. My test from back on the 6th was darker than these. Oh and I have 4 little pimples on my chin!! I may get one here and there, but 4 on my chin is weird.

 

[L.E.]

Well I got my new thermometer that is just like my old one! Yay. So I tested it out already of course lol. I did 2 "rounds". 1st round was each thermometer warmed in my mouth for 10 secs before I turn it on (my usual)... Then I went through with each and tested them with turning them on right away. Results:

7:25 pm new (old) pink tip bbt 98.13, 98.13
Walgreens bbt 98.04, 97.90
Reg green tip therm. 98.4, 98.3
So I guess the new one falls in the middle of the other 2. Even though it's the same brand, I'm sure this one may not read the exact same number my old one would have, but still probably close. Still leaves me with no answers but it's good to know that I was right about the Walgreens one reading a little lower.

For fun I used the old and new ones in my mouth at the same time.
New pink vs reg therm = new pink 98.24, reg 98.4
New pink vs Walgreens= new pink 98.12, walgreens 97.60. Really, Walgreens?
Let's try that again ....new pink 98.13, Walgreens 97.73
I'm beginning to think the Walgreens one isn't so trust-worthy.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I am almost speechless about the Walgreen's thermometer.
That is horrid! That's why I returned mine. I knew something wasn't right with the darn thing. They gave me my money back too. I guess since it is a pharmacy, you expect them to sale quality medical supplies...Especially if they are going to put their name on it! Sheesh! Those results are all so different. The most disappointing is the Walgreen's.

I am however, so glad that you got a new "old faithful" brand. Let me ask you this though...do you think somewhere in the midst of the epic thermometer fail, that you may have ovulated? Those new temps could be 3 over six. This theory may be questionable I know, mainly because of the recent dark opk's. But what happens with you chart if you discard CD11? Thinking we are in the same -> at this point. poor us.


About my epic temp failure now: CD12 is a possible ovulation date. But look at the chart with Cd12 as ovulation...Don't the rest of those temps look UNNATURAL to you? I was looking at that and said aloud.."that looks completely fake and very unnatural." But then again I am not the average girl..I chat with myself for Pete's sake. My chart with CD12 for ovulation looks like I am a temping liar and craving attention (sighs) Gosh I can't wait until it's bedtime so I can just go to sleep and maybe have more answers when I temp tomorrow. When I added todays temp I was surprised and confused. I hope my temp does something impressive in the morning. Imagine is I wake up to an even higher temp...I want a pretty bfp chart!!!

It's not right! We need our rainbow charts and we need em' now!

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, I just don't know what to think about your chart. Good thing is at least you O'd. I'd say either CD12 or 15. Stinks when your cm and temps don't match up.

I've had fertile cm since after AF left, random dark opks, flat temps, and pure craziness. I should be used to this.

If I take out CD11 it does nothing for my chart. If I get, say, a 97.5 temp in the morning, I'll get cross-hairs, though I don't think that's going to happen. If it does happen, I think they'll end up getting taken away. I'm thinking I still haven't O'd.

So I used both the Walgreens bbt and my regular thermometer some days. I put the regular temps in for TCOYF since I hadn't filled it out this cycle. I say it looks somewhat similar to FF, minus the ups and downs (because there are missing days). Both charts do have a noticeable jump around CD17 but no rise afterwards. So I think either I O'd (unlikely) and my body is taking its good 'ol time to respond, or my temp is going to drop again in an attempt to O. Who knows with my body. Since I O'd on my own last month I thought I'd do it again, but the month is still young. The earliest I O'd was a year ago with the chemical and that was CD25. There's no guarantee that I'll even O, but I'm still hoping I do.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I did a little something to my chart on TCOYF. I actually input my numbers back the way that I had them, to where they are being round up or down. I had taken them out to see if that would have made a difference in ovulation. I marked CD12 as disturbed and got that ugly little clock that I hate. :/ And so now it is matching Ff with the CD14. Of course FF is set to FAM settings and not Advanced. I may just switch it to advanced depending on my temp in the morning. I can't believe I haven't had any dips yet. My chart isn't even ineresting..it's confusing without a doubt. I am sure you are feeling like me right now...can't win for losing with these bodies of ours. I mean what is so hard? OVULATE, show a real thermal shift, and be obvious? Is that too much for a girl to ask? If I ovulated on CD15 Lisa, I am not sure if we even caught the egg then. I didn't have to most hospitable cervical fluid on Cd14 or Cd15. So there it is...I just may be out..AGAIN. We used a little Pre-seed on CD14, But I wouldn't say it would be enough to act as a supplemental fluid. By CD15 my CM was so infertile I wouldn't have dared to try to BD. That would have been quite painful on my poor cervix to be honest. Now today..is another story. CM isn't gone with the wind. So maybe we will just dance for fun now. I guess all that's left for me to do at this point is wait for the evil red riding hood to show up or not. Maybe then I will be able to know for sure when I ovulated by subtracting my LP. Oh well.

Maybe you haven't ovulated yet...and that's a good thing. So you and your Dh can dance. If you get a 97.5 or higher in the morning. I am going to just be in shock at the audacity of your ovaries to play such a mean joke. I think that ovulating on your own is possible again. The bleed the other day maybe and impending ovulation bleed. Are you going to use both thermometers in the morning or just the reliable newbie thermometer? Couldn't hurt to use both. If they are around the same (which may be unlikely but still...ijs) then it might actually give a little info about what's going on at this point in your cycle?? Maybe?

 

[L.E.]

Well I hope your O was Cd12-14 then. Maybe a different chart means something good. I hope you get your bfp and forever baby. You've waited plenty and had enough loss. .

I'm going to use both, if not all 3 thermometers lol. I *think* I'm going to stick with the Walgreens on my chart this cycle because the new one reads higher and I don't want to mess up FF. I'll just note all temps for my own reference. Now if I get to another long stretch of low temps I would consider switching which thermometer data I input, but for now I'm keeping with the Walgreens for the chart, and noting the other(s) for reference.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I hope I get a bfp too. Dh alarm woke me up at 5 a.m. this morning. It was a rough night last night. The electricity went out about 5 times back to back, and after I reset my clock and alarm a few times. After ressetting it 3 times I gave up. Finally it went out a 6th time for about 10 minutes and came back on again and stayed that way. So I got to bed at about a 2. So I got 3 hours before his alarm woke me. I temped then because I felt fully awake, got 98.06. I stayed up until after 6 a.m. went back to bed temped again after about 4 1/2 hours of more sleep and got 98.34 So that is only a .28 difference. I am wondering how that is. If temp increases at least .1 every half hour. Wouldn't my temp have been higher? Well I guess my metabolism is wacky too...or my room is really cold. I sleep with 3 comforters so I honestly can't say that I freeze to death. And with my Allergies I have to have air blowing at night or I will wake up unable to breathe. It feels like I am suffocating without air blowing in my face. Dh used to hate the constant air, but now he can't sleep without it too. lol Go figure. I am just an influential woman...


I think using all three is a great idea. And keeping the same data on your chart is the best idea. Can you see the dotted crosshairs now? :/ No need in complicating things with the new thermometer. I hope this mornings temp is a good one, that will actually give some sort of information for you. I do have to admit though. Your chart looks really pretty L.EI know you hate those flat temps but they look soooo orderly. Your first temps were with the new thermometer right? If so then I have to say that something pertaining to ovulation is happening, because your temps went flat and low.

 

[L.E.]

Sorry I didn't get my temp inputted til now. We were running late for church this morning and just got home.

Well yesterday was a nice day here at 59 degrees so I turned the heat off. I turned it up before we went to bed, but I guess not enough and it was chilly in here this morning (60 instead of the usual 68-70 I think). And when I woke up I think I just had a sheet on me and not blanket. I don't know if it affected my temp or not but it was LOW this morning. Confirms for me that O didn't happen yet, so at least I'm not left wondering. I'd pretty much figured it since I hadn't moved to infertile cm. It is unusual for me to have thick cm unless I've O'd. But all 3 times I O'd my cm went thick a day or so afterwards. That's actually one of the main reasons I sort of believed my temps last month when they showed O.

Yes all temps this month are from the Walgreens brand. Last month from 9 dpo on I used my regular thermometer, so my temps may not have been quite as high as they looked from 9-14dpo... but also not as low as it looks at 15dpo compared to the others because 15dpo/CD1 I switched to the Walgreens one.

So maybe I'm going to gear up to O again or for the first time. Who knows with me lol. Here are today's opks taken on a 5 hour hold with the same sample. The first one had a line which was fading so I didn't know which part of the line was the correct color so I did another test. Now I'll need to go get more tests tomorrow. We had a decent break there, so I'm going to try to get the BD going again. I could tell right away that my opk wasn't going to be positive, but it's a pretty decent line still. Hopefully I'll get my positive soon and ovulate. My 3 times Oing have now been about CD50, CD25, CD40. I REALLY hope I O this month and that it's more like CD25.

 

[L.E.]

Oh and about your temps. For some people I think they don't follow the rules with the bbt. maybe you're one of those. I know I am. Your temp may have been higher if you'd stayed asleep the whole time. So hard to say. That's why I usually don't adjust my temps. My CD9 was taken 3 hrs later than usual, but falls right in place on my chart.

That stinks about the power and alarm clock. I hate when that happens, though I don't think I've had it happen that many times in a night. I've been using an old cell phone's alarm, so I don't have to get up to turn my temping alarm off, and it's right within arm's reach.

 

[L.E.]

I was thinking about those weird pregnancy rates you'd mentioned before, Fngrs. I just did a quick search on FF for ovulation days between 10-30 and then chose intercourse patterns to see the pregnancy rate. Here's what it showed:
O day: 32%
O-1: 33%
O-2: 29%
O-3: 28%
O-4: 20%
O+1: 16%
All 6 days: 40%

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Oh and about your temps. For some people I think they don't follow the rules with the bbt. maybe you're one of those. I know I am. Your temp may have been higher if you'd stayed asleep the whole time. So hard to say. That's why I usually don't adjust my temps. My CD9 was taken 3 hrs later than usual, but falls right in place on my chart.

That stinks about the power and alarm clock. I hate when that happens, though I don't think I've had it happen that many times in a night. I've been using an old cell phone's alarm, so I don't have to get up to turn my temping alarm off, and it's right within arm's reach.

lol @ "I've been using an old cell phone's alarm, so I don't have to get up to turn my temping alarm off, and it's right within arm's reach." Well there won't be any discrepancy because of excessive moving!

Your opk's are almost there! Those are nice and dark! I think you geared up before from the looks of your other opks last week. So now you can get the dancing done and be well on your way to a bfp! If I may be honest, I don't know about you, but the anticipation of impending ovulation sometimes nearly kills me. lol I feel like a dog playing fetch with it's owner. "oh please, oh please, throw the stick!" Just anticipating and drooling...:drool:

Yea the power outage was a pain. Setting the alarm over and over. It wasn't even raining out, so I didn't quite get why the power went out. Of course it rained later on in the morning though.

Well DH and his alarm did it again this morning.. But they didn't win! I temped got 98.09 went back to sleep, temped at 6 and got a lovely 98.33! yay! It's close to my temp yesterday at 9ish I think it was?? So so far so good. I intend on POAS after the kids leave...oops which is now (6:51 a.m.)!!! Just to see...If there isn't anything on it worth seeing then guess I won't bother to post it.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I was thinking about those weird pregnancy rates you'd mentioned before, Fngrs. I just did a quick search on FF for ovulation days between 10-30 and then chose intercourse patterns to see the pregnancy rate. Here's what it showed:
O day: 32%
O-1: 33%
O-2: 29%
O-3: 28%
O-4: 20%
O+1: 16%
All 6 days: 40%

I soooo like those better. The other rates are a little on the depressing side. I have known women that have gotten pregnant with intercourse on just ovulation day. So I thought those other rates to be a little weird. The info that I found was actually from medical researchers. So I said ok maybe it has validity..it's depressing..but maybe valid. 32 percent for ovulation sounds about right. In a matter of 30 minutes sperm are already to the cervix. In a another hour or so they can reach the egg. So why would ovulation day be a 5 percent chance, is what I asked? Heck They didn't even have a stat for 0+1 on the stats I read. lol I think FF is correct on their stats. PLUS I like their odds better.

 

[L.E.]

LOL Well my cell phone alarm is only good when you set it. Apparently I forgot to set it last night... Which is stupid because I had plenty of time to set it since I couldn't fall asleep til after 4. Here's the thing with the alarm: A month or so ago I decided I wanted to make more room in our bedroom and I like to sleep against the wall, so I moved our bed to a corner and I sleep against the wall, DS sleeps in the middle, and DH sleeps on the "open" side and next to my alarm. So when my alarm goes off, DH is already gone for work, so I have to uncover, grab my thermometer, climb over DS, turn the alarm off, get back under the covers, and then temp. It's really so much easier with the cell phone because I have a little cubby above my head on the wall I just put my stuff in. Right now all my thermometers (haha) and the cell phone and cough drops (stupid cough won't go away) are in a make-up bag and right in my little cubby.

Ha well that was a long post about an alarm. So I woke up an hour late this morning to temp, but of course my Walgreens bbt was right at 97.18 again. Old faithful was 97.25 so they were actually close.

Fngrs, your temps look really good! You're still probably too early to see anything, even if you O'd on CD12, so don't fret if your test was negative.

DH still wasn't feeling well last night so we haven't' BD. I was upset at first, but I pretty much figured I wasn't Oing right now anyway, so I got over it fast. I think I'm going to make a deal with him that we try to BD every 3rd day (maybe even every 4th), and I'll use OPKs to see when we need to up the BDing. I mean, even if we BD 2x a week, we'd still be at 20-28% chance, so as much of a chance as "average". Plus if I get a positive OPK and we BD then our chances go up.

I've been considering stopping ttc til mid-April. We're planning on going on vacation to Disney World in April, and I want to lose a bare minimum of 15 lbs before then. Now the 15 shouldn't be a problem (but still a lot of effort), but I really want to lose 30. I have lots to lose, so I'd still be fat at 30 lbs lost, but I'd be a more comfortable weight. The 15 is what I'd gained back from my original 58. We all know I can't stop ttc right now, but I've thought about it.

Ok I'm done blabbering for now. Sorry for the novel.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Are you kidding me? I love reading posts like novels. I write novels too. lol You know that we are two ladies who are extreme posters! I like that about us. We are very thorough with our posts.

I don't think I could sleep in a corner. DH is mildly violent in his sleep, so being trapped in a corner where I may take a minor beating is not good. My DH is an elbow thrower, face slapper, Knee in your back, leg over your body kind of guy. He is a wild sleeper. I used to separate his side from mine with a body pillow. Now I can feel the blows before there is actual contact and can catch his elbow in my sleep. No lie I really can. And I just push it back over to his side.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Holy Crap L.E. I had a bit of a vomiting spell this evening. And my head has been pounding all day. No nausea as a warning with it, just an all out in the middle of eating vomiting spell...I just ate a small amount of dinner (which was tasting really good mind you). So I thought I was done was walking back to my food (didn't make it there) had to run back to the bathroom for another round. OMG I am so ready for bed, maybe the headache will go away and I won't dare eat a thing for the rest of the night. TERROR!!

 

[L.E.]

I lol about your DH and his sleeping. Too funny. Well I'm sure it's not funny when you're on the receiving end of the elbows hehe. You must be a ninja.

Well I sure hope the throwing up was morning sickness and not the flu. I don't know about there, but it's going around something terrible around here. Thankfully we haven't gotten it. 1-5 days til you get a reliable test. Hoping you get your bfp!

I went out and got 8 more opks. I hope I can use 1 a day and make them last. I should be okay unless I get positives or almost positives. I saved a sample from this afternoon and tested earlier and it was negative. I figured as much.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

lol you wouldn't believe the nocturnal domestic violence I go through! No flu, I feel fine now. lol lol I hope it ends up being a good thing. I cant wait to get a better test. I hope these few days fly by fast. because I am going nuts at this point. I even tested after the throwing up. Like something amazing was going to happen with the test and there was going to be a blazing line since I'd thrown up. Not to mention I went through with using diluted urine, although I could look at it and see it wasn't good concentration. Think think I MAY see a little something on it. But this picture isn't of the best quality. Maybe I can find a better one or lighten it or something. Do you see anything at all? Wishful thinking?

Ok added another pic

 

[L.E.]

I see a shadow but I don't see color. Maybe you'll get something definite tomorrow. Glad it's not the flu, though, and I hope it is the start of something wonderful .

 

[FngrsCrossed]

added another in previous post. Right now I am wishing for 100 Wondfo's... So I can go pee dip strip crazy.