positive opk @ 8dpo...HELP!!!

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. I am still stalking your chart on a daily basis...lol I have it bookmarked. I will put mine back up so you ladies can stalk away too.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, Sorry to hear about your knee. As much as it would stink to stop ttc, you'd probably only have to stop for a month or 2, right? What about like 800 mg of ibuprofen? That's supposed to be pretty safe for babies and moms. That's what I took after my c-section. I thought about all this with my gallbladder surgery. I was in incredible amounts of pain daily and eventually gave in and did the surgery. I'm so glad I did. The deciding factor for me was that I did not want to have to live with the attacks throughout a pregnancy- same thing with getting my wisdom teeth out and fillings... no way I wanted to fight that pain for 9 months. Now of course I didn't end up pregnant right away (my chemical was almost a year later), but still. Selfishly I want you to keep ttc because I can finally stalk your chart again lol. Glad to "see" you again! Oh and it looks like you'll O soon!!!

For me, I took an opk earlier and like I said was negative... went back to look at it, and it is pretty light. So I'm hoping last night's meant something and today is O day. A girl can dream. I pretty much told DH that BD HAS to happen tonight. I hate putting the stress on him, but I'm not risking it again this cycle. Now if I don't O and my cm goes infertile, I won't worry so much about it unless it starts trending towards fertile. Last month I didn't consider it fertile but was leaning that way, and I disregarded it and O'd and we had only BD 3 days before O.
So if I happen to O today we will have BD 3 days before and O day and then if my temp is up tomorrow, I'll try to tomorrow just in case. Of course it's unlikely for me to O this early, but last cycle was a failed Clomid cycle and I O'd on my own, so anything is possible.

Well here are my pics from last night. The first one was taken about 5-10 mins, and the other was at about 30 mins (says "30" on it in eyeliner lol).

 

[L.E.]

Well I'm thinking today is O day or that I geared up to at least. Here is tonight's opk with a decent hold and some limiting fluids with really good concentration.... I'm wondering if maybe last night's was the tail end of my surge, or it wasn't fully positive because I didn't have much of a hold.

Plus I already see my cm turning thicker and my cvx is firm. Hoping BD tonight isn't too late. Hoping to see a temp rise tomorrow. If I O'd today, I guess my timing wouldn't be too terrible since the one from 3 days ago was technically 2 days ago (Saturday at like 3 a.m.) and hopefully tonight and then maybe tomorrow too if my temp rises. I really really wish we could have BD last night. If I O'd and don't get a bfp, I think I won't be a happy camper. But I think I could handle a few cycles with O at a normal time too, so I guess it wouldn't be all bad. I also have to prepare myself that maybe I didn't O, so I guess we'll see what the next few days hold.

 

[staceyj83]

Hmmmm hope yall can bd tonight and yoy get a temprises

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Those opks are pretty darn dark..I think you may have caught the end of your surge. That last one could be proof of that. Even though you didn't get the BD night before, last night should be effective too. Your CM could have protected a lot of spermies and they could be just dwelling there til' ovulation time. Given they live up to 7 days I think you should be fine. I didn't use any opks this cycle. I am feeling a bit like an idiot now about that one, but hey...I can always kick myself in the behind later. I am using my lovely fern-o-scope though. I have gotten ferns for the last few days so now I am asking when the heck am I actually going to ovulate. I usually have the ovulation dip with ovulation no later that CD14 (today) and that isn't there. I hope you catch the egg this time around. I was soooo elated to see that you had ovulated last cycle. I thought the Clomid would have done a better job than it did, and made you ovulated earlier in the cycle. Blasted clomid!!! But this cycle I think that it's going to be your body that does the trick all on it's own again. Maybe the clomid just woke your ovaries up so they could do it by themselves.

Now about the knee. :/ I can't take Ibuprofen because I also have ulcers. I haven't taken Nexium in a while either, but I also watch out for things that would flare it. But at this point I think it wouldn't hurt to give the Ibuprofen a try. As long as it can get the swelling to go away. This is a yowzers moment for me. lol My mother bought something for me and my decrepit knee, that she saw at a pharmacy. She drove all the way here to give it to me yesterday. Activ-On I think it's called. It's like a roll on Bengay without all of the odor and it doesn't have the "Icy Hot-I'm on fire" feeling. It helped a little but I am
assuming it has to be used several times for results.

 

[mzswizz]

L.E. your opks look awesome!!!! Fxed for you this cycle.

Fngrs-Glad you're back!!!! And hope you knee gets better. And im thinking the same thing....maybe you have to have multiple uses to feel results.

AFM, im on cd6 and AF left the building yesterday. Im hoping that this is how my AFs are going to be from now on. On cd5..i didnt have any light bleeding at all so in reality..it only lasted 4 days. Which is what suppose to happen so im happy about that. For 4 days..i had light bleeding and then it just ended. So hoping the bcps are finally working their magi and finally getting in the system. Today is relax day for me. MIL hasnt moved in yet still so thats good and DH and I have just been planning for the future so we shall see. Nothing really to report because havent really been up to much ever since DH left to go back to Connecticut.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, Yea I say give it a few more tries. But what about a chiropractor? Did you try seeing one yet? Maybe you have something that they could fix. I think chiropractors can do a lot of helping... preaching to myself here haha. I'd been to a chiropractor for nutritional/supplemental balancing before, but I have yet to get adjusted.

And a dip doesn't have to happen, so maybe you'll O today without a dip.

MzSwizz, Glad you get some time to relax. I think I've relaxed too much since the holidays and I really need to get my house in order. Yay for AF being short and light! I hope you only see it 1x a month now.

Well, you can see from my chart that my temp didn't go up. I don't know what to think of having the exact same temp for 3 days in a row. I'm sure some of it is that this bbt has favorite temps, but I did compare it with my regular thermometer 2 of the days and those days had matching temps on that one too, so either way I know those 3 temps had to be really close. DH and I did get to BD last night . I'm a little bummed with my temp not going up, especially since we had to put in extra effort to get the job done lol. If my temp doesn't go up tomorrow, I'll just figure that my body geared up to and then failed to O... which I'm sure it has done a million times.

 

[L.E.]

Hmm quick update- the firmer cvx must have been a fluke because it is very high and soft today. Maybe I'm not out yet.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Yea. The problem with the knee is, it's not the actual bone that's the issue. It's the ligament and fluid pockets in the knee. The fluid pockets are suppose to create fluid that will cushion the knee, kind of like a shock absorber. Except mine isn't just producing fluid in rational amounts, it's in excess...Excess enough to make these lumps that resemble blood clots. I had it X-rayed and the Dr. said that it isn't a blood clot, but the sight of it shook me up quite a bit. One day it was just a knot and the next it was burgundy! Scared me half to death. You'd wear that I am old or something!!! These things are not suppose to happen to people my age! Even one of my friends suffers with the same thing and she is a year younger than I am!

Now down to "My Chart", I look at it and I am so confused about where I am in my cycle. I started AF late last cycle and i am hoping that ovulation isn't going to be late this time. That would bite. I always expect the dip because I always have the dip. I have never charted one single cycle where I didn't have that dip. So now it's routine. Well I thought it was routine. I guess not huh?!

L.E. ok lets chart about your chart here. I am thinking that the 3 consecutive days of the same temp is a great thing. Statistically the conception rate is something like this for the 5 fertile days excluding the day after ovulation. And forgive me for actually spelling percent out...my #5/"percent" key seems to be broken. All I have now is my faithful number pad on my keyboard, hence why i can even type a 5 still. :/ Anyhow ladies I read this info yesterday and bookmarked it also.

O-4 13 percent
O-3 13 percent
O-2 28 percent
O-1 26 percent
Ovulation - 5 percent chance of conception

I was amazed that O-4 and O-3 are at 13 percent. I would have thought it to be a little higher than that. And I was blown away by the percent chance on ovulation day. So many women actually do conceive from intercourse on ovulation day. So in conclusion according to what I read and the chart they provided the best 2 days are O-1 and especially O-2. I have even known women that got pregnant from intercourse the day after ovulation so what gives with those numbers?

So L.E. even if you didn't ovulate today you could hit the O-1 or O-2 mark. So there is some positive motivation for you.And I guess myself too. lol

 

[FngrsCrossed]

MzSwizz isn't lovely to have shorter menstruation? I am glad the BCP are doing their job for you. And hopefully they will regulate you enough that you won't need anything the assist you when you and DH start TTC again.

 

[L.E.]

So will the surgery be just a temporary fix? I mean, something had to have caused that to happen, right?

Those numbers do seem really low. I think on FF the percentage of charts that are pregnancy charts is about 25%, which is close to what is said to be "normal". And yea, that 5% for O day sounds really low.

And, hmm, if you've had a dip every time then maybe tomorrow will be the day for the dip. I really hope I O too. It would be fabulous to be in the 2ww together for once. That was mean of AF to be a day late for you. . I thought the other 2 times I O'd my LP was 12-13 days, so I was surprised that it was 14 days this time, but no complaints because that was something normal my body did! Plus I was pretty sure with a bfn at 11 or 12 dpo that I was out. And then my AF was much shorter than usual, so I'm really hoping this is a "normal" trend. I can't even imagine having a normal cycle.

Tmi but my cm earlier was almost ewcm...I marked it that way because it is super-fertile looking...like seriously looked like BD leftovers but it had been 18 or more hours since then so it shouldn't have been from that.

I may be able to convince DH to BD again tonight. I mentioned it to him that it's not as much pressure since we BD last night. It would just be icing on the cake. So we'll see. I'll be very disappointed if I don't O in the next 2 days. I've had W cm for 10 days and a high soft cvx for a week, and that dark opk. As of now my temp is still low. Ok I'm blabbering lol.

 

[staceyj83]

fngrs welcome back sorry to hear about your knee hope you and le o soon

as for me nothing new keeping busy by selling girl scout cookies and working in the yard it looks so much better already we are thinking about getting a swing set for the kids

 

[L.E.]

Mmmm girl scout cookies...

I've gotta run errands but quick update is I didn't get to BD last night but that's okay... and I obviously didn't O yet. :/

 

[staceyj83]

i know i love them lol come on dang body work

 

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. the knee thing stems from an injury (torn ligament) from when I was a teen. But no one told me that this could possibly happen later. I went through rehab for the knee, and although it was better then when i tore the ligament, it has never been the same. Now since November it has gotten worse. :/ The Dr. says it's Bursitis...Not sure if I ever mentioned that before. which is a form of Arthritis. My PCP diagnosed me with Arthritis a few years back. But it's actually bursitis. I just hate this. And in all honesty and baby is more important to me than my knee. I know that may sound irrational or even moronic to some. But I can't help it. I would rather have the baby than correct the knee with possible surgery right now. I would even be happy with being able to take Anti-inflamatory meds if I could take them while pregnant, and then correct the knee later on when my kids had a break from school or something.

I know what you mean with this ovulation thing already! I looked at your chart and actually said WTH?! I looked at mine and said the same thing...I am going to put 1 dollar in the swear jar though. So that dip you thought would show up this morning has not showed. I just don't get it!! something fishy is going on, and I intend to get to the bottom of it!!! AF was 2 days late last cycle so I think she may have pushed ovulation back...Stupid witch...always up to her plots and schemes!! If I could have some sort of girl fight with her I would!! I am usually so loving...non-violent...but I am at my wits end! I woke up to a .1 temp spike!! Can you believe that?! I see you had a little dip which is good, because it gives you more time to BD. My CM is possible non fertile...milky, not too thick not eggwhite either. vaginal sensation is DRY like the desert!!!

I feel like "Oh blah blah blah" at this point. And I am sleepy and having some very vivid dreams. I dreamed my irresponsible younger brother had my son smoking Marijuana! >:[ and that I seriously offended my bestfriend to the point she was crying, and then i dreamed a cousin was pregnant with a boy....turns out it's not her it's a different cousin that is closer to her bond wise.

I'd better hurry up and ovulate or I am subject to lose the half-teaspoon of sanity i have left.
Anyhow, yea the numbers are low. Not much of an encouragement when I thought about ovulation day dancing. :/ did any of you ladies know here are channels/canals in the cervix that sperm can get lost in? I found that out too. I didn't know that the cervix had any openings that sperm could get trapped in. Don't know where I thought the Cm was coming from. Heck there has to be some sort of vessels or channels that produce it.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Thanks Stacey...glad that all is going well with you. It's not warm enough for us to do any yard work. But I can't wait until it is...so I can start my garden early. Think I am going to start my seeds indoors next month toward the end of the month.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, Well I do understand about the baby being more important. If you can find a pregnancy-safe anti-inflammatory, I say go for it! With my gallbladder and wisdom teeth, the only option was to have them removed. Now my teeth was just a couple days healing, but the gallbladder was longer and I was in pain longer because I ended up having stones stuck in my duct after surgery which required another procedure. So, yep, if it can be managed, go for it. The only thing that helped at all with the gallbladder attacks was vicodin, and I surely couldn't stay on that long-term or during a pregnancy. I hope you find safe meds that do the trick for you.

I just got home and got to look at your chart. Neither of our bodies are playing nice. Is there any chance you have a slow rise this month? Was Sunday's temp taken earlier or later? I guess we just keep on with the BDing til O. For you it should be any day. For me, who knows. I just wish that if I'm not going to O, that I could have some infertile cm for a while so I don't have to time BD for a little bit. We could use a little break from BDing already. Otherwise, my body needs to get it together and O already! Yours too! I never should have taken those OPKs because that's extra frustrating to get such a dark opk that then goes light, with the fertile cm and cvx, and then nothing happens. I really expected a nice dip today or a spike after yesterday's cm. Now I usually temp at 9. Today was 8:35 and it was 97.76, but I also woke up at 9:10 and it was 97.05. I went with the first one because it better matched my other temps and at 8:35 is when I moved around in bed (switched sides of the bed, changed positions, fixed the covers, etc), so I figured the 1st temp was a more rested temp anyway.

So, more waiting for us I guess. Blah.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I am going to look into what would be safe to take. From the looks of it not much. Need to consort with the Dr.

Yea our bodies are doing what they want to do at this point. And I know you are frustrated because you did opk's...but look at silly me...I didn't so I have no idea where I am in my cycle. I used my fern-o-scope...I was hoping for a temp spike too. No such luck for either of us. Maybe in the morning we will see one. My poor DH is going to get really tired of the dancing..given he works up to 16 hours. :/ I was surprised this afternoon (he is on nights now) when he made a pass at me. I had to fight to stop myself from laughing. All I could manage to say was "what does the eyebrow lifting and smiling mean?" I am usually the aggressor in most cases. lol lol lol Guess he figured he would try. But we didn't dance, I thought we would have tonight. he went in this morning; came home early and got called back in. >:/ blasted people!!!

So if I don't get a spike in the morning I can always attack him them. It's quite possible that it could be a slow rise. I hope not but will possible know tomorrow morning. A slow rise is so Ambiguous for me most times. Because either day(s) could be ovulation. Which makes me feel even more stupid now for not doing opk's. With just the scope I would be terribly lost to pinpoint ovulation with a slow rise. But if this is what THIS IS, then I am not going to worry myself. Wherever I get the crosshairs (dotted or not) I am going to leave them there and go on. There! I said it! And I mean it! For now at least..

I tell you L.E. these charts have done us a doozie! Just when you think you have learned your body. The body actually shows us otherwise.

Off subject...I made corn on the cob as a side for dinner tonight..I swear my taste buds are heightened. Because that was the best corn on the cob i ever tasted before in my life! I ate 5 it was unreal and unusual for me. I mean I like corn on the cob, but not that much to eat 5 of them. maybe that's my ovulatory craving? I have been craving "something" for 2 days now, and I couldn't figure out what I wanted...well now I have...CORN ON THE COB. Nothing else was satisfactory...lol but this is and going to go eat more right now...

 

[L.E.]

Yum...corn on the cob! I hope it is a sign of O for you! Hopefully you'll get some answers in the morning. I think I will still be in the dark. My temp is still low right now. I know it doesn't really count during the day/ night, but if I O'd my random temps should be 98 or over. I took it a few mins ago and it was 96.8.... Lol...was at one point last night too. Not so sure about this thermometer and its favorite temps. It probably isn't as accurate as my old one. If this cycle is a bust, I may buy a different bbt.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Update as of tonight (1-9-13 CD15):I am definitely non-fertile, and should have a thermal shift by morning.I am having my usual indicator that I will be shifting (hot flashes) and my CM is scant and sticky vaginal sensation DRY DRY DRY.. I changed my CM observations for yesterday because by night it was dry and not questionable anymore.

Oh and to answer your question L.E. That temp on Sunday was taken later. I hit the alarm clock and started dreaming that I was temping. All the while I was actually sleeping. I recorded the time as later, but actual temp seems to correlate with the rest of my chart so I didn't worry much. I think my temps are more accurate after I have slept a while.