positive opk @ 8dpo...HELP!!!

[FngrsCrossed]

I don't know what kinda' wayyyy wacky cycle this is, but it's getting to be a pain! My chart on TCOYF looks horrid now. A lot of x's and that huge thumb, and not to mention it changed my ovulation date to CD15!!! I am now like ?!?!?! Out of nowhere I am now 4dpo! And not to mention how low the temps are! I have like 3 temps under the CL on FF, and Only 1 over the CL on TCOYF (they have my Cl at 97.3). FF is lower. Either I haven't Ovulated yet and both of them are liar's or this cycle will be annovulatory....(blah blah blahhh!!!) it would take TCOYF and FF to my bubble!!! Not to mention the partial ferning!!!


My temps are ridiculously embarrassing!!! my chart looks like crud next to other charts. I have been looking for my charts "Twin" on FF, I guess I will let yo ladies know if I find it....This morning was suppose to be awesome, I am hating that air freshener in that bathroom that keeps spraying every 30 minutes, it's gross. And how does the scent make it all the way here into the living room?!!? Guess the evil didn't read my letter. Or maybe I am just complaining because things aren't going my way..Either way I need a cup of coffee...I know that has nothing to do with anything that is going on with my chart...not the air freshener or the need for a cup of coffee, but it's feeling really good to just get it all out and find some extra stuff to complain about this morning. I am being a and having a very large scale fit I know...I am going to be a clamer me after my mood swing here..I promise.

Where is my awww not again...not another bfn on the way...How awful! No fair! I think I am going to the carnival and eat myself into happiness. A funnel cake, lemonade, and a mile long corndog will make me feel better....

 

[mzswizz]

Fngrs-sucks you're having a bad morning and i see what you mean about your temps. Hopefully they rise soon. My temp shot up this morning but i think its due to the aleve and also tylenol before bed so i discarded my temp for today. FXed you that you dont have an anonovulatory cycle like i did. Im throwing a tantrum like you because I am just ready to ov already and be in the tww. This is going to be 2 months that I have been waiting to ov Oh well. Hopefully this cycle brings forth a bfp.

AFM, im on cd4 and my temp rose to 97.80 but i discarded the temp due to me having a toothache and i took meds. I tried aleve but it didnt really work so i took tylenol before bed so im assuming one of those, if not both, contributed to the rise in temp. Well, dh and i both work today but i get off early so im happy. I have been having a rather good time at work and my supervisor hasnt been rude lately so thats good. Also, i have found out that we are getting 2 new part-time employees Happy about that because they would be in my age group so now i will have somebody to talk to. Also, hopefully now i wont have to stay late so i might be able to leave on time compared to staying 15 minutes after on most days. So everything is going well. DH is still on his 60 day program. He missed 1 day because we came home very late so thats understandable but he didnt miss yesterday's workout so i was happy that he is staying on it. I found out my friend's due date is Oct. 4th so she doesn't have long to go. Looking at FF, it put possible ov on June 1st so we shall see if that happens. If i do ov on June 1st and conceive, then my edd would be in March which is the same month of my other best friend's birthday so we shall see. Yesterday, I had a good day except for the excruciating toothache. Its not as bad as it was yesterday so its getting better. I put some orajel on it so its helping. Also, my mom and i both dyed our hair. Mines is red and hers is blonde. The color is different but it looks nice on her because she is very light skinned (alot of people mistaked her for spanish ). My hair is a nice burgundy color. I love it. Well, the bleeding is medium/heavy for now. 3 more days before AF suppose to end. Hopefully AF leaves on time this time around.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, Wow I don't even know what to say about your temps. If you hadn't had the positives and ferning, I would say it looked like you didn't ovulate yet. Maybe it's just one of those weird things and your temp will rise tomorrow. I've been grouchy today too so I went back to bed. Probably shouldn't have but sometimes you just need to sleep the day away... or punch someone in the face... but I figured sleeping is safer lol. Just for the record, I've never punched someone in the face. Maybe there's a weird gravitational pull affecting our moods, or a full moon... or maybe TTC is driving us to insanity.

MzSwizz... I'm glad things are going well at work still. People shouldn't have to dread going to work everyday. Yay for the fun hair colors! I never used to dye mine, but had mine dyed a couple different versions of red since fall, but just recently dyed it as close to my natural hair color as I could. It was fun having it a different color for a while. PS Yes we all do deserve those LOs...

Oh and as a side note about my Soy experience so far, I think it has increased my spotting. I thought maybe it was increased slightly off and on since I started the Soy, but today proves I was correct. It's still spotting but a little heavier than it had been and more red than pink right now. Definitely no flow, but different than before. My dose was higher yesterday than it had been, so maybe that's what increased it more. I'm really hoping I can ovulate and then the spotting will stop.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Happy Mothers Day Ladies! Will RSVP later.

 

[L.E.]

Happy Mother's Day... and woohoo for your temp today, Fngrs!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I hope you ladies had a good day today! My day was very nice! Ok now time to reply to what you ladies posted:

MsSwizz- Yep had a BAD morning yesterday...Had a quick hissy, but I started feeling better after we got to the carnival. I ate myself silly!! I hope Af read the letter you wrote to her so she can start being diligent about leaving when she is suppose to. Isn't she the rudest guest ever?! She knows nothing about hospitality...

L.E.- yes sometimes sleep is the best thing. I took a nap yesterday morning and then we went to the carnival. Can't say that didn't make it all better. I saw a bird show while there. I love birds so much! There was the prettiest scarlet mccaw and two other parrots, one named skipper and the other (female) named Hailey. They also had two birds that could sing, not whistle type singing, but actual vocals. Too cute and too funny.

Like I said ladies..I ate myself silly at the carnival. I had 2 roasted corns, a bag of cotton candy, a funnel cake, 2 lemonades (fresh squeezed), a bbq brisket sandwich, and chips! The corndogs weren't foot long so I didn't want one. Oh and the candy apples...omg...The had so many different kinds. I didn't get one though. Bought my mom one though. Seems as though she gobbled that down in a matter of minutes. Kids and Dh and my 12 year old sister rode everything there. Mom and I went for the food! Just like 2 food addicts!!!

Today was good, enjoyed the day. Temp was up this morning. I awoke an hour early..But gosh was I so comfortably warm and toasty this morning! I sometimes wake up freezing to death. Especially Pre-ovulation...I felt so snug this morning, and to think I thought the night sweats were going to attack me. Which my posting that last statement may end up with me putting my foot in my mouth on that one. I have no idea what my chart is up to. I thought I had seen it all. I have experienced all kinds of thermal shifts...This one, by far, is the newest thing going. I have not seen a thermal shift like that, especially one of my charts. I have found my charts "twin" though..one bfp chart and one ovulatory. So...let the suspense begin. Guess I will see which chart is my charts sibling.

I could slap myself..I bought myself 2 new houseplants today...As if my collection isn't big enough. I tell you this much, if there is nothing else in this house, we are bountiful on OXYGEN!!!! I was going shopping for my SIL and not for myself. Her and my brother just moved into a new house. So there is no Folage to speak of. Anyhow, after seeing not 1 single plant in her house, I decided that I should get her a couple of plants for Mother's Day. So I bought her an Ivy (easy maintenance), and some cute and weird little plant that I have no idea the species. But it does look delicate. She was SUPER excited when I gave them to her. She wants me to help her with flower beds, so I am going to do that one too. But I am grounding myself from and Garden center at any store...PERIOD...

Oh yea, I have pics to post of my microscope...There has been a lot of ferning. Not like The beautiful ferning I saw on the 6th, but enough to get my attention. That is probably why the weird thermal shift, secondary estrogen surge? Maybe? Who knows? Will add them in a bit as an edit.

pics: Both are from Saturday

 

[FngrsCrossed]

By Golly Wow!!! That post is irrationally long!! I need to stop blabbering so much, it would have taken up a whole page if I would have kept going!!!

 

[mzswizz]

Fngrs-sounds like you enjoyed yourself and hopefully you get a bfp!!!

AFM, im cd6 today already and im hoping AF ends tomorrow like it suppose to. Also, i think im going to ov like i did in march because the temps are similar to March's cycle. My toothache went away so im glad. Had a great Mother's day. Was with the family and my sister and i cooked for everyone. It was delicious and my sister talked to me about softcups becausr she use that so dh and i might try them this cycle. Well i got to go. Im with dh and he is taking the ASVAB practice test at the Army recruitment site. Now dh wants to go full time but he doesnt know what military branch yet. Wishing him luck.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, Sounds like a good day at the carnival!! I enjoy reading the blabbering as much as I like to blabber! I keep wanting to buy flowers to plant outside but I know I will never water them and they'll die lol. Out of sight, out of mind sort of thing.

MzSwizz, Glad the toothache is gone... I hate them! I kept getting recurring infections in my wisdom teeth til I had them pulled last year. Those infections were so painful and wouldn't go away without antibiotics. *shudder*

For me, I had a decent weekend. I went out to lunch at Olive Garden on Mother's Day with DH and DS and my mom. Then later in the evening, my brother invited us all (my fam, my sister and her group, and my mom of course) over to his house and he cooked steak on the grill for us... Lots of yummy food yesterday!

I think the Soy did something with my temps... they've been so mild-mannered the past few days. I hope it's good and not bad. Oh and just in time today I got my new Wondfos in... woohoo!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

MsSwizz- If I would have had any more fun than that I would have burst! who can't gt happy about carnival food (as expensive as it is)? Your temps are looking good so far.

L.E. I know what you mean about the out of sight out of mind...that's exactly why I plant everything in full view. lol My SIL is the same way. She planted flowers in the front yard and my brother was complaining about how she killed them. lol So I told her We'd plant something she loves and in a place that she can't miss. for the Wondfo's! What batch number did you get this time? If it's a different batch number than the one I have then I will order more.

You know, my chart is quite musical. It has it's own pattern going on...lol starting from CD5 if you look closely it goes down for three, up one, and over two. I noticed that this morning...i actually went about my day singing a "pattern song" with the exact words that you read..1,2,3,up one,over two (repeat) yea I know I have issues. I told you ladies that I chat it up with myself, song and dance are included..

 

[L.E.]

The Lot # on the HCG ones is : W0111150-3 Exp: 11/2013
LH Lot # is: W0211211-3 Exp: 12/2013

I got 100 LH and 20 HCG again. I wasn't even tempted to test with a HCG one, which is unusual. Of course my spotting got a little heavier again. I don't think it's a flow (not really even making it to my liner) but it's more than it was so we'll see. I don't know what to think of it just yet.

I don't know what to think of your ferning. I remember seeing it with more dots at first. That looks like quite a bit of ferning, doesn't it? Strange. Is it still PF or FF? I did a little reading, and some people say when you have a lot of continued ferning after O, it could be a very early indication of pregnancy.

 

[mzswizz]

AFM, its cd7 today and my temp is 97.41. My current chart seems to favor both of my previous charts in a few temps so let's see how it goes this cycle. Well i was very busy yesterday with DH. DH wanted to take the practice test for the ASVAB so he went to the Armed Forces recruitment center to take it and he decided to go tooooo..........the ARMY. And here is the jaw dropping news that nobody expects.....i am signing up with him also. They sat us down and talked to us and we pretty much spent the whole day asking questions and we passed the practice test. We take the actual ASVAB tomorrow. They have a program for married active duty soldiers. The program pretty much let's us live how we are now meaning we will be living together just depending on our jobs, we will either be at the same job or going to our own job every day like we do now. So that's great. I actually talked to a woman who is a Sergeant and both her and her husband are enlisted. They live together and they are happy. Also they have children. She told me there is no certain time frame where I have to get pregnant. She said i can get pregnant whenever I want and just like civilian life, I work until i go on maternity leave so thats great. Also, we will have paid housing, paid tuition, food etc so its pretty much like we are living for freee. The only bills we would have to pay is phone, cable, internet and our car payment but other than that..everything is free if we live on base which we are planning to. I know this is a shock but I believe this is the best decision. Also, since we both will be enlisted..we both get a G.I. Bill of $45,000 max which can either be used for school after we leave the Army for us or be for our children's college tuition which we plan to use for the kids. Now, this will really be great because we would have stability, we will be financially set and we could have kids with no worries. Oh and they have free healthcare and dental and also life insurance As our kids grow up they also get our benefits so we are set Oh and once we passed the ASVAB and pick the specialty job that we want out of the options....we will be sent to Basic Training for 10 weeks innn........October! So atleast DH and I can go to the doc, see what's wrong get everything out the way and by October, if i dont conceive before then, we are on our way to training. If i do get pregnant, well then I will still join him on the base just after he get out of basic training. Whew well this was a long and shocking update. So I am done ranting

 

[PocoHR]

AFM, its cd7 today and my temp is 97.41. My current chart seems to favor both of my previous charts in a few temps so let's see how it goes this cycle. Well i was very busy yesterday with DH. DH wanted to take the practice test for the ASVAB so he went to the Armed Forces recruitment center to take it and he decided to go tooooo..........the ARMY. And here is the jaw dropping news that nobody expects.....i am signing up with him also. They sat us down and talked to us and we pretty much spent the whole day asking questions and we passed the practice test. We take the actual ASVAB tomorrow. They have a program for married active duty soldiers. The program pretty much let's us live how we are now meaning we will be living together just depending on our jobs, we will either be at the same job or going to our own job every day like we do now. So that's great. I actually talked to a woman who is a Sergeant and both her and her husband are enlisted. They live together and they are happy. Also they have children. She told me there is no certain time frame where I have to get pregnant. She said i can get pregnant whenever I want and just like civilian life, I work until i go on maternity leave so thats great. Also, we will have paid housing, paid tuition, food etc so its pretty much like we are living for freee. The only bills we would have to pay is phone, cable, internet and our car payment but other than that..everything is free if we live on base which we are planning to. I know this is a shock but I believe this is the best decision. Also, since we both will be enlisted..we both get a G.I. Bill of $45,000 max which can either be used for school after we leave the Army for us or be for our children's college tuition which we plan to use for the kids. Now, this will really be great because we would have stability, we will be financially set and we could have kids with no worries. Oh and they have free healthcare and dental and also life insurance As our kids grow up they also get our benefits so we are set Oh and once we passed the ASVAB and pick the specialty job that we want out of the options....we will be sent to Basic Training for 10 weeks innn........October! So atleast DH and I can go to the doc, see what's wrong get everything out the way and by October, if i dont conceive before then, we are on our way to training. If i do get pregnant, well then I will still join him on the base just after he get out of basic training. Whew well this was a long and shocking update. So I am done ranting

Oh wow, that is huge! I hope it works out how you want. I would just be a little careful, I have heard Army life can be extremely tough, and recruitment promises are sometimes not always honored. I think it can be a great way of life for some people, but I can say, if I were you I would stagger the enlistments. Meaning, maybe one of you signs up first, sees how it goes, and the other signs up six months - a year after. Just to get a feel for how it works out, without both of being tied to it. But, that is just me Best of luck to you both!!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. I think I am going to order then, that isn't the lot number I got before, so maybe all of those are gone, and they won't send me the one I ordered last time.

So it could be the soy making the heavier spotting? If the dreaded witch should show her horrible face, are you going to continue the soy next cycle? What are the dosage and duration recommendations on the soy? Are they taken for a certain amount of days then stopped like clomid? I sure hope the do something amazing! All the women that I have known that took them except 1, were happy with the result. I wonder if they are like EPO or Fertile CM, meaning it's SAID "you have to take them a couple of cycles to see results". I think that statement isn't always true, I saw results the first month I used EPO. I bought DH some more supplements on Mother's Day. Got him Hi Potency Vitamin C 500mg and Ginseng 500mg. So I guess if he takes that on top of the Men's multivitamin that should help.

I don't see where he gets all of the necessary vitamins in his diet. So this is the way that he is going to to get it all in. He seems aboard the TTC train. Hasn't complained about taking pills everyday, he, like me isn't very sold on taking pills . Hopefully we got our positive this cycle. If we end up not getting it, then i guess I get to dig really deep into my purse and buy the fertility monitor. :S I want it so bad, I just wish it was cheaper.

The ferning looked partial to me, because there were areas on the slide that didn't have much of anything. Today looks confusing, don't know if that is because my sample wasn't big enough or what. The bigger the sample the longer the drying time on it. It looks pretty full of ferns though. I didn't bother to do it yesterday, felt the need not to torture myself. I guess I will take another sample later. You can't brush, eat, or drink anything for a few hours before you take your sample. So I took a shot of that one. Realized today the reason why my pic for Saturday was sucky is because I forgot to zoom. That's just like me though, to sit there and wonder what went wrong, chat about it (to myself of course), and figure it out 2 days later.

Tomorrow is SUPPOSE to be my day. Can't say I want to do it. I think my family believes themselves to be celebrities. They do more wardrobe changes than Madonna on tour. Oh my, I am almost ready for my daughters 10 birthday. It's a Lisa Frank party, and I happened to find all the favors my heart could desire. The tableware on the website is $25+S&H How can disposable cups and plates almost cost more than it costs for me to fill up my SUV? It costs about 55 maybe 60 for me to fill up. And I would need two sets of the supplies or more, to cover all the girls she wants to invite, plus the girls in our family (who have to be there) nieces, cousins etc. It's 8 plates, cups, napkins, and a few party favors. I am going to post a pic of what I bought. spent about $60 on everything. In the meantime, here is a pic of today's scope.

added pics of "party pack" that's cost $25...Should I even bother to get? Or just go with my first idea...Mix and match the plates, cups and napkins (which would be cheaper)?

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I think that's full ferning. Wasn't sure that it was full when I looked at it on the scope. But I think it is full now that I am seeing it on the screen. I darkened it so the detail could be seen. Wow full ferning at 6dpo...CrAzY!!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

AFM, its cd7 today and my temp is 97.41. My current chart seems to favor both of my previous charts in a few temps so let's see how it goes this cycle. Well i was very busy yesterday with DH. DH wanted to take the practice test for the ASVAB so he went to the Armed Forces recruitment center to take it and he decided to go tooooo..........the ARMY. And here is the jaw dropping news that nobody expects.....i am signing up with him also. They sat us down and talked to us and we pretty much spent the whole day asking questions and we passed the practice test. We take the actual ASVAB tomorrow. They have a program for married active duty soldiers. The program pretty much let's us live how we are now meaning we will be living together just depending on our jobs, we will either be at the same job or going to our own job every day like we do now. So that's great. I actually talked to a woman who is a Sergeant and both her and her husband are enlisted. They live together and they are happy. Also they have children. She told me there is no certain time frame where I have to get pregnant. She said i can get pregnant whenever I want and just like civilian life, I work until i go on maternity leave so thats great. Also, we will have paid housing, paid tuition, food etc so its pretty much like we are living for freee. The only bills we would have to pay is phone, cable, internet and our car payment but other than that..everything is free if we live on base which we are planning to. I know this is a shock but I believe this is the best decision. Also, since we both will be enlisted..we both get a G.I. Bill of $45,000 max which can either be used for school after we leave the Army for us or be for our children's college tuition which we plan to use for the kids. Now, this will really be great because we would have stability, we will be financially set and we could have kids with no worries. Oh and they have free healthcare and dental and also life insurance As our kids grow up they also get our benefits so we are set Oh and once we passed the ASVAB and pick the specialty job that we want out of the options....we will be sent to Basic Training for 10 weeks innn........October! So atleast DH and I can go to the doc, see what's wrong get everything out the way and by October, if i dont conceive before then, we are on our way to training. If i do get pregnant, well then I will still join him on the base just after he get out of basic training. Whew well this was a long and shocking update. So I am done ranting

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Well it's your decision in the end...But I agree with PocoHR. Recruiters are as good-a-liars as politicians. They also have the right to separate you two at any time. Sending him to his job in another state and sending you elsewhere. And when the children come along, as long as one of you are with them that's all they care about. They don't have to put you both together in the same house. That's why I didn't go. They won't tell you that. If both of you are enlisted the ball is in their court; They can separate you two.

Like I said, in the end, that's your and DH's decision. I wish you both the best of luck. So you guys going to stop TTC until after you two are settled?

I can't say that I am not in shock, because I am. My family are Air Force people. except my brother, he was a Marine. Semper Fi and HooRah! lol My DH never qualified to go with his Asthma. So I don't have to ever worry about him even being drafted. lol lol lol

 

[mzswizz]

That was my dad concern. And they told us about everything such as different programs. I dont have to sign up but i want to sign up so i can further my schooling and it will be paid in full. With only dh in there, school would be discounted so we still will have to pay. And i know we can possibly be seperated but i was told when it comes to deployment then thats the chance and also basic training but base wise we have to live together because the government protected married couples who both enlist. Hoping that is true. And if i end up pregnant before basic training, then i just wont sign up. So either way it can work.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Well good luck either way.

 

[L.E.]

Wow, MzSwizz! I hope that works out well for you two. I do agree about maybe holding off a couple months for you to sign up, but if you're set on doing it, then I really hope you two get to stay together the whole time. I also believe that if you have kids, it does not mean you will be excused from duty. You may get some maternity time, but would be expected to deploy too if called out. My brother's ex had to deploy to Iraq as a single mom because her mom was able to care for her son. I say just read a lot from people who live it vs the recruiter before you make anything final. It is an honorable profession for sure, but very demanding.