positive opk @ 8dpo...HELP!!!

[mzswizz]

Thanks. Also, i talked to a different person this time. And she said she has 2 kids, a military husband and she is also enlisted. She said that she too is in the marriage program. She said we could've been separated if we werent married. But seeing that we are a married couple, they have to keep us together and we get extra money just because we are married. Also other non immediate family members can be separated from us. They try to keep immediate family together. They even said they keep brothers and sisters together so that was good to know. Most of my family was in there and the ones who were in there recently told me i wouldnt be separated from him. Also, I know if i get pregnant while in there, I would have maternity leave then its back to work. The only way i cant join is if im already pregnant or get pregnant before basic training.

 

[L.E.]

Fngrs, I think that there is a good chance you have a little bean making it's way with all that ferning. People say the ferning can be the earliest indicator of conception! Not trying to get your hopes up too much, but I'm just going by what I read!

For me, I heated up my leftover Olive Garden last night and it wasn't nearly as good as Sunday. I just didn't sit right, so when I finally went to bed (around 2 a.m. haha) I felt sick to my stomach and couldn't sleep. Sparing the details (you're welcome lol), I ended up feeling better around 5 a.m. and got to sleep right around 6, with my alarm set for 9 a.m. to temp. I think I just barely got my 3 hrs, but that hadn't made my temp go high before. I'm still barely within normal range for me, so I guess we'll see.

The spotting sort of comes and goes... Hasn't completely gone away for very long the past couple days but it was heavier during the day and just about gone from dinnertime til about 5 a.m. when it came back some.

I'm really starting to get antsy about the Soy working. Oh and to answer your question Fngrs, I don't think Soy has to be used several cycles necessarily for it to work at all... a lot of people have luck with it right away. It is supposed to be used like Clomid- taken for 5 days very early in your cycle, with days 5-9 being the latest and 1-5 the earliest. A lady posted to me in the Soy thread I made saying she tried for 4 yrs and did the Soy on days 10-14 and is 12 weeks pregnant! Oh and they say Soy is about 1/2 as potent as Clomid so you would take roughly double the amount. Since Drs usually start you at 50 mg Clomid, then you'd probably start at 80-120mg of Soy. Of course I upped mine and took 80-120-160-160-200.

 

[L.E.]

Oh and about the party stuff (cute), I say if there is a big price different, mix and match. I always thought the party packs were overpriced too.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Fngrs, I think that there is a good chance you have a little bean making it's way with all that ferning. People say the ferning can be the earliest indicator of conception! Not trying to get your hopes up too much, but I'm just going by what I read!

For me, I heated up my leftover Olive Garden last night and it wasn't nearly as good as Sunday. I just didn't sit right, so when I finally went to bed (around 2 a.m. haha)......

I sure hope so L.E. That's a lot of ferning going on. I read that it could be an indicator of pregnancy also. So that would be so nice. Especially given two of our church members popped by (DH was at work, and was sorry he missed it), we talked and then prayed for our household and for a little bean. I had no idea they were coming, God must have sent them over for a reason. It was so nice to see them, they are such wonderful people, and we love them a lot.

My ferning was so beautiful today...lol Dh looked at my microscope as he does every night (I don't wipe it until he takes a look). He seems to like looking at the ferns as much as I do. I also woke up beaming flames of heat...lol I was sweltering! I know you can understand how being hot feels since you and are both low temp gals, and need a cool sleeping environment. lol

I haven't been to Olive Garden in years now. My brother and SIL got food posioning from the one here, so I just didn't ever go back. To afraid that I would be next. Although I have never had a bad experience.

With soy being like clomid, I don't see why more women don't try it first. And clomid is know to dry up CM too...I am sure soy doesn't have those side effects. With Clomid doing that it's kind of a TTC contradiction when you think about it; take it to OV and lose the one fluid that helps sperm live long enough to fertilize the egg you have so desperately been trying to release??

I know you said you were sleep deprived, but gosh that temp looks like 1 of 3 over 6...that would be so awesome if it was. Or at least Ov day temp... Do you know if soy can help to make you ovulate earlier in the cycle or not. I do hope I get a sticky bfp, but in the event that I don't I would like to ovulate on Cd12 again.

Yes, the party pack is just too cute. And 2 packs would cost me 50 bucks and that wouldn't include paper goods for adults at the party. I would end up having to buy paper goods for parents to have drinks and cake. So I think mix and match would be the best idea also. Lisa Frank is a busy kind of pattern, So having the party bags, favors, and all the busy designs of the cups would make it look overdone. Mix and Match it is!

 

[ADR]

Hi ladies, I've been seriously stalking your threads and feel like I know you guys! I too am having the hardest time conceiving...2 MC's (one on my birthday) and 2 chemical pregnancies i am currently on my second round of Clomid and patiently waiting for a BFP!! MzSwizz I would love to wish you good luck with your Army process... I was an Army recruiter up until a couple months ago. I am still in the Army and now stationed in Texas ;-) The decision to enlist is not always an easy one especially considering the welfare of one's families...

I would love to be a part of this group because like I've mentioned I've been really creeping (read just about the entire thread over the past few hours) and really love the support. Good luck to you all and lots of sticky baby dust!!!!!!!!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Hi ladies, I've been seriously stalking your threads and feel like I know you guys! I too am having the hardest time conceiving...2 MC's (one on my birthday) and 2 chemical pregnancies i am currently on my second round of Clomid and patiently waiting for a BFP!! MzSwizz I would love to wish you good luck with your Army process... I was an Army recruiter up until a couple months ago. I am still in the Army and now stationed in Texas ;-) The decision to enlist is not always an easy one especially considering the welfare of one's families...

I would love to be a part of this group because like I've mentioned I've been really creeping (read just about the entire thread over the past few hours) and really love the support. Good luck to you all and lots of sticky baby dust!!!!!!!!

Hi there!! And Welcome!!! We would love to have you. Yep we have been around here posting a while now. Wow, you did some reading lady!! I think we have 1,000 posts on here maybe a little less. lol It's usually just us three everyone has left, and I am so glad someone wants to stay with us. Because we are weird, quirky, silly, and whimsical group of gals.

Sorry for your losses, all of us have suffered a loss. It's just horrible. I have had 2 chemicals and 1 second tri loss...Probably read that though. We do believe in supporting one another.

Besides the Clomid what else are you using? (charting, opk's etc.)

Texas hunh?! cool I used to live in Austin for many years...You must be in Killeen. I had friends living there, they aren't there anymore. I hope you can get your bfp this cycle, and have a sticky rainbow, clomid baby!! Glad to have you!!! and to you as well!!!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

Ladies I am oh so this morning...awoke early and very queezy. Hoping its a bean in there. Just feel sick to my stomach. I don't know if I should say YAY or just throw up and get it over with... changed my temp to the first one I took yesterday morning. first one was 97.78 went back to sleep for 45 minutes and it was 98.00. Just want to see if it matches anyone's chart. May change it back to 98.

L.E. Oh my goodness I forgot to post the pic of what I bought...lol It's because I am the brain for everyone in this house!!!!! From Dh to the kids and then I come last. will post as an edit...smh

MsSwizz I hope i didn't upset you yesterday...I thought about that all evening yesterday. :/ I apologize if I did. You know best what is the best thing for you and your family. And no to mention for you guys' future. I for one will miss chatting with you while you are in basic.

Like an IDIOT..I tested this morning...smh Shame on me! won't post the test, because we all know what I got already... Not discouraged though. DH has volunteered to get my FRER's after work on Friday...that's if I can wait that long. I may as well run to WalMart (the setup store) myself. Not buying 4 boxes of tests though. Dh seems eager to know...

 

[L.E.]

Welcome, ADR! So sorry for your losses! We've all had our difficulties and can relate for sure. None of us have tried Clomid yet, so you can answer all our questions if we start taking it... lucky you! lol

MzSwizz, I'm glad the 2nd person confirmed your information for you. I don't know all that much about the military (I really don't have any close family in it), and I'm sure they've changed some things since my brother's ex was in... plus she's a liar, so who knows. I just know how much you want a baby and didn't want to see anything stand in your way of it, but it sounds like you have a plan. :thumb up:

Fngrs, your temps look great and I think your chances are sooo good... the nausea sounds wonderful. I mean, no one likes nausea, but I know we all would welcome it with open arms. I had very noticeable sickness at approx 12 dpo when I got my surprise bfp with DS, so when I didn't get it with my chemical, it sent up a red flag, and turned out my not-so-good feeling about it was right. So YAY for nausea!!

For once, I didn't want my temp to go up this morning. I was happy to see the lower number. We would not have had a very good chance at all. My spotting was heavier than I prefer to BD with, and DH was on a deadline for school and scrambling to get it done, so, yea, it's been a little while (6 days). I had plans to last night but we were all tired and went to bed at the same time...so tonight it WILL happen lol. I try not to tell too much about my BD business, but with as much as we talk about, it just has to come into play. No details, though, sorry ladies.

Anyway, no I don't think the Soy dries you up. So I went the the bathroom like 3 times in a row (no gallbladder...sigh), and the 3rd time, I squeezed a tiiiiny bit of pee out to use an opk in. Sorry for the tmi, but...haha. Maybe my sample was too concentrated and not accurate, but I'll have wishful thinking til next time I test. I know they're not positive, but it's progression!! It worries me that I'm still spotting, but I don't think that will go away til I ovulate.

 

[ADR]

Hi there!! And Welcome!!! We would love to have you. Yep we have been around here posting a while now. Wow, you did some reading lady!! I think we have 1,000 posts on here maybe a little less. lol It's usually just us three everyone has left, and I am so glad someone wants to stay with us. Because we are weird, quirky, silly, and whimsical group of gals.

Sorry for your losses, all of us have suffered a loss. It's just horrible. I have had 2 chemicals and 1 second tri loss...Probably read that though. We do believe in supporting one another.

Besides the Clomid what else are you using? (charting, opk's etc.)

Texas hunh?! cool I used to live in Austin for many years...You must be in Killeen. I had friends living there, they aren't there anymore. I hope you can get your bfp this cycle, and have a sticky rainbow, clomid baby!! Glad to have you!!! and to you as well!!![/QUOTE]


Thanks and I love you guys' weird, quirky and silliness
Besides the Clomid I am also on Bromocriptine to keep my prolactin levels normal. I had a small pituitary tumor that secreted more than normal prolactin. I feel like I've tried everything under the sun, had all the tests which came back normal and still no nothing. As hard as it is I am trying to not test (OPK, HPT) for the next few cycles. I have one CB digi in the house but I had DH hide it so I won't test until after missed AF. I have started back temping though.

I'm actually in El Paso, stationed at Fort Bliss... LOVE it here! Also love the fact that my OBGYN was willing to pick up where my old Doc left off... I was a little nervous that switching back to the military healthcare that they would have started me over from square one!

Sorry to hear you're felling ill today... hope things get better

 

[L.E.]

My opks tonight were a little lighter. Guess we'll see what tomorrow brings. I know not to get my hopes up til they're darker than the control consistently.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. definite progression on the opk's!! Something is going to give real soon. No such thing as TMI...lol No gallbladder is really something. I don't think anyone that still has theirs will ever really understand. It's like having a permanent stomach virus.

Yes, yes, yes YAY for nausea!!!! it lasted a long time this morning. Hoping little bean and not just upset stomach. But seriosly, upset stomach in the wee hours of the morning? Hmmm, yea right! It may be a little bean in there!!! yay I would definitely faint!!

I understand about not talking the BD'ing business. That's very personal. Thinking I may go to bed early. I made myself stay up all day, so I can actually sleep through the night. If I wake up early tomorrow, I am going to have a long chat with myself..Not that I don't do that already...

 

[FngrsCrossed]

ADR-

Well it's nice to have a clomid TTC'er in here with us. We will probably be asking questions about it. Like L.E. mentioned. I mean we ask each other about clomid or mention it, but none of us are on so we can remotely help each other with that one. Besides searching the internet.

I have to admit we are nutty at times. Sometimes when there is nothing else you can do, the only thing left to do is go nutty and laugh it up. Sometimes we (especially me) get angry too. lol So don't ever worry about venting, we will read, and RSVP. Again it's nice to have you here!

How long have you been TTC? I am sure i am pretty much dead on when I say feels like all three of us has been TTC for what feels like centuries! I have never been to El Paso. I used to live in Austin, and have visited surrounding areas, but never that far down or up the Texas map. But it sounds nice, I bet it get pretty hot out there.

It's so nice to have a Dr. that is willing to really be of assistance..The worst thing is getting a practitioner that is difficult. As women we pretty much know our bodies, so if we say that this is what we think is going on, 9 out of 10 that's what it is. Not trying to take away from the Dr. but women who are TTC seem to be more aware of their bodies. I love charting, it makes things so much easier.

about you having your Dh hide the test. That's too clever...I could see me outside of my husbands job with pop a lock, trying to search the trunk discreetly. My DH wouldn't bother to hide it in the house, he'd take it with him. I have been relatively better than last cycle. or the cycle before, or the one before that... So far I have only test with 3 Wondfo's. did those for fun. Missed POAS. By now, I would have already gotten FRER's, I have been so good this cycle. Not one in the house.

Yea the nausea is off and on. Won't complain, if I am pregnant that's a good thing, and I welcome morning sickness. May sound nuts to most, but when you have lost a child, morning sickness is something you would love to experience all over again, if it meant a healthy pregnancy and baby. Ok blabbering now...lol How many DPO are you btw?

 

[ADR]

I've been TTC for 2 years now... started the following month after our MC (even though the docs suggested waiting 3 cycles) 3 cycles?!?!? I have yet to Ov, but if calculations are right should be within the next 3 days.... Since I am not using any OPK's, gonna be religious about every other day for the next 6 days at least.

My Gyn suggested that we try to get back to the intimacy of BD'ing and fore go the tests. blah blah blah. She said sometimes the constant testing causes too much stress and might make things more difficult... meh... not sure but I figured what the heck, I'll try it this month and MAYBE next month... but after that back to testing, if no :BFP:

I feel you on the welcoming nausea.. With my pregnancies I experienced the worse "all day" sickness. I was actually diagnosed with hyperemesis; but I would give anything to have that right now! Really hoping your nausea is for a great cause!!

 

[ADR]

So I've caved!!! Just got through ordering tests.... they should be here in 2 days! Where did my will power go??

 

[L.E.]

If you ovulate regularly and about the same day, OPKs shouldn't cause too much stress. I would think they would ease the stress a little bit knowing that you're done timing BD and can relax in the 2ww. They stress me out a little, but it's not the OPKs' fault I don't ovulate! They keep me grounded from thinking I could be pregnant all the time (well most of the time anyway lol). And now that I'm temping too, I really don't have to wonder if I'm pregnant or if I O'd, because my temps do no reflect that either. Still frustrating, but keeping track really helps me!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

ADR-

I have to agree with L.E. (which I am sure you do too), opk's shouldn't cause too much stress; especially if you are aware already of your usual ovulation day. I will admit, sometimes TCC can be a little less than intimate or romantic. I tried to ditch the opks for a cycle this year, my husband ruined that one by convincing me to buy some. I was having a really nice cycle, hydrated for the most part. I loved drinking liquids with no worry of skewing opk results.

lol at you ordering the opk's...Never fear I am sure you know we are the same way. Will power is sometimes far from us on here. lol But at least they will be here in a couple days, which is right on time!

Is it me or does it seem like other women have an easier time getting pregnant? Not to bring that up again, but seriously? 3 cycles is a long time. Who wants to wait that long, especially when there is a chance that you could get your +?!?!? Midwife at last Dr.'s office told me to wait it out 1 cycle, so they will know when I got pregnant. smh I am thinking, why would it matter if YOU know when I got pregnant?! I know and that is what matters. How could they not know if I bring a print out of my chart?! Of course she wasn't the brightest crayon that crayola makes either! She stayed on the phone and left me in the room listening to her talk about "Jenny" to different family members.

So I don't blame you for not waiting, why miss a chance to finally get a sticky bean?!

 

[FngrsCrossed]

L.E. I am so glad that you decided to temp also. That alone takes so much stress and guess work out of TTC. The not know if you are post-O or pre-O makes things more difficult. Plus when you do get pregnant you really can't say what day you conceived. Just knowing what's going on with the body is refreshing, and can help your Dr. determine what's going on if there is something going on that shouldn't be.

Women with a short LP wouldn't even know they had one without temping. Or women with a progesterone deficiency wouldn't know for certain they needed it checked. So it's just a win win situation. Like you mentioned about the opk's allowing for timing and resting. Can you imagine dancing every other day til' the witch shows? My, m, my!!! I couldn't do it!! Neither could DH...the thought of that just makes me quiver.

 

[mzswizz]

welcome ADR!

Fngrs-your chart is looking good.

L.E.- how are you?

AFM, im on cd9 and my temp is 97.61. I'm still experiencing spotting so it looks like AF might end soon. I haven't been on because DH and I have been pretty busy. We took the ASVAB yesterday and we both passed Now, decisions have been changed and made. As far as the Army goes.....we are NOT going to the Army. But as far as the military goes...we've decided completely to go forward with.........the NAVY. The Navy is the type of military branch that we want to be in. You get to travel, the benefits are MUCH better, when it comes to pregnancy...they make sure everything goes well with the pregnancy and they take care of the women, pregnant women WILL NOT be on a ship if they are pregnant even if they are only 6 weeks pregnant , they have the Buddy Program which is a program that the government created for only 2 people to be able to be stationed together. For example, husband and wife, sibling with sibling, best friend with best friend. Which is pretty good. As far as deployment, dh and i cant be on the same ship because of what happens in the early 1900s when the Navy first was created. They dont want the whole family on the ship just in case, God forbid, if something happened to the ship..the entire family wont be gone and the legacy will be able to continue on. So we both will be assigned to ships but will only be on the ship for deployment and drills. Deployment wise, we will not be stuck at sea for months without seeing land. They are in the water for 2-3 weeks and they stop at different locations on the way to the destination and have 4-5 days off where we can just visit the location and the days off dont come from our vacation time which is good They also said if either of us are deployed, we can call each other when we go to a location, say where we at and we can fly out and be with each other so thats pretty awesome All of our questions were answered and there was no gray areas compared to the Army and we DONT have to worry about combatitive jobs etc because the Navy Seals etc are the combatitive ones. We WILL be able to see each other during basic training, just wont be able to sleep in the same bed. The only time we will be away from each other is when we do job training and deployment. But even if he deploys i can still take some time off and go vacation the location with him so its a win/win for us. I've talked to my friend in the Navy and she is happy. She said we would love it and she has enlisted for 8 years So i know she loves it. The pay is MUCH BETTER than the Army and they have great careers. Basic Training will NOT be 99% hard fitness work because the Navy isnt combatitive. They are mostly in classroom training with a small percentage of working out to stay fit of course and swimming. Which i feel is better. And they said they dont yell and be all in your face like the Army because they feel that wont help you push yourself. Everything is pretty much what works for us and they work with you so its great. From hearing Navy stories, you would think they are terrible but actually talking to people and especially our family currently in the Navy, its not bad at all. Oh and for sea sickness..they give you meds because everyone will get sea sick the first time around so atleast i know just in case. So yes the Navy is where we are heading. We are already doing the paperwork for the background check so we can push forward with the medical/physical. One we pass background check and the physical which is a normal physical check up..we decide our job and then decide how soon we want to leave and then receive the date we will leave out to basic training etc. So we are excited about this new journey. For now, we are putting ttc on hold until we get in and stationed and then ttc because we want to be situated first. But we still will go to the doc on July 23rd to figure out everything and then we wait which I have no problem doing. Im ready to travel the world with my DH and start our careers and family!!!

 

[L.E.]

Mzswizz...wow wow wow! I don't know what to say other than congrats! It sounds like you found what you want to do! It really sounds like an adventure, and I hope it's a good one. Maybe while you're so busy with that, you'll make another adventure in the process. . It seems like my life has been on hold a little bit since TTC, so I'm glad you're going to go out and live yours and not just wait.

For me, nothing too new is going on... slept most of the day away off and on, but after having my niece here Sunday and then Tues-this morning, I don't mind the extra sleep or quiet (It is soooo quiet here with just me and DS). I think he's enjoying the quiet too.

I'm still spotting, though I don't think I had any for about a 12 hr period. It had been a little heavier for about 3 days but starting yesterday it eased back up. It wasn't pad-worthy, but a few drops made it to my liner. Anyway, ladies, what do you think of my TCOYF (adjusted temp) chart? It looks like a gradual decrease in temp. I hope it is leading to O.... I really do. My OPKs were fairly light last night, so my body is mean, but I'm used to it. That must have been some super-pee I had early yesterday! :body: I either shut off my alarm or didn't set it last night, but I woke up an hour and 10 mins late today. And yesterday was only 15 mins early but my niece was thirsty so I had to give her some water, then try to clean up the water that she spilled, then lift her onto my bed before I could take my temp. So that's why there is an open circle on that one. I did manage to do all of that without getting out of bed, but I don't know if/how much it would affect my temp. Looks like it was still fine.

 

[FngrsCrossed]

I can't belive this horror, take a look!
https://www.theroot.com/buzz/should-pregnant-women-be-tasered-cops