Refreshing talk today with HV's regarding BFing

[aragornlover8]

What if they had a pamphlet on all brands? Wouldn't that be offering information without promoting one particular brand over another?

 

[Tasha]

the bottles that reduce colic thing is again, brand promotion so no, shouldn't be allowed. General info on sterilising, not to make bottles in advance etc should be given out once a mother has made that decision but not to every mum antenatally IMO.

I agree with this I think, there is no harm that if my is FF on discharge hand her a leaflet, if she changes from BF to FF (and is very sure about the change) during the early postnatal period then a mw can give a leaflet, and later on the hv. The reason I say leafltet is because some HCP's wprry about promotion so handing a leaflet will reassure them they wont get in trouble

 

[Ashley8806]

A bottle that reduces colic doesnt have to be a brand thing - just talk about the different types of nipples, or even explaining to a new mom that there are different options and to read up on the different bottles available - maybe they don't know there are different choices for different issues. They don't have to say X brand is better than Y brand because blah blah blah.... just explain what to look for in a bottle.

 

[Tasha]

Oh and

Just felt a bit left out so thought I would add some in

Next time dont leave it out

sorry

 

[LoraLoo]

the bottles that reduce colic thing is again, brand promotion so no, shouldn't be allowed. General info on sterilising, not to make bottles in advance etc should be given out once a mother has made that decision but not to every mum antenatally IMO.

I agree with this I think, there is no harm that if my is FF on discharge hand her a leaflet, if she changes from BF to FF (and is very sure about the change) during the early postnatal period then a mw can give a leaflet, and later on the hv. The reason I say leafltet is because some HCP's wprry about promotion so handing a leaflet will reassure them they wont get in trouble

This was what i was trying to say *resists the urge to add THAT smiley*....that way its not promoting it. I see no problem in handing them out in that case.

 

[indy and lara]

Again there is a divide depending on where you live. TBH, I don't find anything refreshing about HVs discussing FF as it is what happens here. Lots of sources of information. For me refreshing would be something new and this isn't.

Being totally honest, I am not sure some of the problem scenarios people are discussing would be addressed whether or not information is available. If a parent is not following the instructions on a tin about how to make up a bottle or on a steriliser then are they really likely to ask a HV for advice or read another leaflet or pamphlet? It is one thing not understanding or being able to read the instructions but a whole other situation when people don't read the information which is available.

 

[Tasha]

Oh and

Just felt a bit left out so thought I would add some in

^^^ I hate the bloomin smiley. It is the one thing I would change about BnB. It winds me up everytime I see it, even when it is not directed at me.

...and breathe.....

thats not good.

 

[LoraLoo]

Again there is a divide depending on where you live. TBH, I don't find anything refreshing about HVs discussing FF as it is what happens here. Lots of sources of information. For me refreshing would be something new and this isn't.

Being totally honest, I am not sure some of the problem scenarios people are discussing would be addressed whether or not information is available. If a parent is not following the instructions on a tin about how to make up a bottle or on a steriliser then are they really likely to ask a HV for advice or read another leaflet or pamphlet? It is one thing not understanding or being able to read the instructions but a whole other situation when people don't read the information which is available.

 

[moomin_troll]

ive been so lucky with my HV. i had her with zane, i gave up BF before i met her and i mentioned how i gave up n she stopped me there n told me i was doing a great job n made me feel good. she didnt care i was 20, she spoke to me like a person n not a child.

i was so happy to have her again with corey. ive never needed her advice when it comes to BF as coreys amazing at it and doing so well and again shes just as supportive. i look forward to her visits (we have a gossip too lol)

some ppl can make u feel like crap for FF so i think info on both should be given equaly

 

[Tasha]

Again there is a divide depending on where you live. TBH, I don't find anything refreshing about HVs discussing FF as it is what happens here. Lots of sources of information. For me refreshing would be something new and this isn't.

Being totally honest, I am not sure some of the problem scenarios people are discussing would be addressed whether or not information is available. If a parent is not following the instructions on a tin about how to make up a bottle or on a steriliser then are they really likely to ask a HV for advice or read another leaflet or pamphlet? It is one thing not understanding or being able to read the instructions but a whole other situation when people don't read the information which is available.

I get what you are saying, but like I said the tin doesnt say what could happen if you dont follow the things it says whereas a leaflet could, and it means some people might take it more seriously

 

[indy and lara]

I have to wonder what some of the HVs in this country are doing if they do not talk to mothers about different teats etc?

That said, I do think if you are planning to FF from the get go it is your responsibility to read up on different brands and bottles and decide which is the one you prefer. A trip to Mothercare or Tesco will enable you to read all that info if you do not have access online etc. No-one told me which breast pump would be best. I went to the shops, read the catalogues and had a look. We do have to take some responsibility as parents. Things cannot always be handed to people on a plate and in my experience, when they are they are often rejected as being 'interfering' or 'the nanny state'.

 

[indy and lara]

Oh and

Just felt a bit left out so thought I would add some in

^^^ I hate the bloomin smiley. It is the one thing I would change about BnB. It winds me up everytime I see it, even when it is not directed at me.

...and breathe.....

thats not good.

I have had to go and lie in a dark room....overload!!!

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

It isn't just handing out pamflets its talking to parents and explaining why it is recommended to make feeds up in a certain way etc X

 

[moomin_troll]

It isn't just handing out pamflets its talking to parents and explaining why it is recommended to make feeds up in a certain way etc X

with zane because i was told i made every feed fresh and fed on demand, so when i saw my mate feeding her daughter a bottle that had been lying around i was shocked.

and there is so many threads on here with mothers asking about how to make bottles.....surely it should be up to the HV or even MW to make sure woman no how to feed their babies correctly no matter how its done

 

[indy and lara]

Honestly, as I have already said, I wonder what they are actually doing in places if this is not happening. I know all about how to make up a bottle, sterilise and storage guidelines and Emma has never had a bottle of formula (well she had 1 premade bottle at 8 days in SCBU as apparently I was not expressing enough after every feed....That is a whole other discussion regarding how much some childcare professionals actually know about BF) That is how often it was brought up at baby group/ clinic etc.

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

You would think so yes moomin. Considering a baby could become ill if it isn't done correctly x

 

[Ashley8806]

They are just saying that it is good to have the information available to FF moms. Not to have the new parents read up on information, research, etc. Being a new mom is overwhelming, imagine not having the information if you are a first time mom and not sure how to be prepared. I guess I'm lucky that here we are not judged or made to feel inferior for FF. (I BF btw, but had to supplement with formula). If they were not there to help me with both issues, I would have been lost completley. I feel that people are losing the main idea of this thread here. Maybe you should go back and read the first post.

 

[Tasha]

L I think here they just dont have the time to discuss these sorts of things, we dont have any checks with them at all any more other than if you want your LO to be weighed. There are 408 under 5's per HV in my borough, how can they possibly support in the way they should?

 

[Blah11]

Honestly, as I have already said, I wonder what they are actually doing in places if this is not happening. I know all about how to make up a bottle, sterilise and storage guidelines and Emma has never had a bottle of formula (well she had 1 premade bottle at 8 days in SCBU as apparently I was not expressing enough after every feed....That is a whole other discussion regarding how much some childcare professionals actually know about BF) That is how often it was brought up at baby group/ clinic etc.

I do too and Ive never use a bottle either, heh.

 

[LoraLoo]

What concerns me, is that if leaflets for both are left in waiting rooms for example, an expectant mum may pick up a B/F leaflet, read that yes, it has benefits, but you may get thrush, may get mastistis, you have to get the latch right, you are the sole feeder etc....and then pick up a FF leaflet and see it as the 'easier' option. It may sway them from B/F to FF. Thats where my problem lies..xx