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[steph1505]

Morning!!

U were up late!!

Aaw yeah i think if we were on two levels we'd have oliver down with us! When r u thinkin of introducing a routine? I think we started about 6 weeks with Brandon so will probably wait and do the same this time! I had hoped we would be in some sort of semi routine by now but every day is different!

Can i ask, does Oscar fall asleep himself? 9 times out of 10 we have to cuddle Oliver for him to fall asleep! He is a nightmare for fighting it!

Yeah i kno wot u mean about OH goin to work! Im lookin forward to it being the 3 of us and i think it'll help with Brandons feelings towards me!

Wots ur plans for today? My friend who lives in Poland is back home so shes comin to meet the young man! Xxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Yeh that was when I was on feeding duty for Oscar, I had gone to bed long before that though

We were thinking about 6 weeks for a routine, that's what we did for DS1 and it worked really well!

Oscar has been quite good at going to sleep himself, occassionally we might need to cuddle him or jiggle him a bit but thats usually when he's been awake for too long and then finds it hard to go off himself. Otherwise he'll just look around then go to sleep. We give him a dummy, sometimes he wants it and that will help him go to sleep, sometimes he doesn't!

Plans today will be to laze about! MIL is bringing us all over a roast

x x x z

 

[Hopingitwill]

Hey girls- Sorry not been on. Have been readin when I go to bed but been too tired to respond ( busy time ofvyear as childrens tests in a couple of weeks). Thanks for fb acceptance. Some lovely pictures. Still haven't figured how to upload scan photo from phone. Def more real though now as everyone at works knows. Am officially second tri too! Sorry to hear that you have bern finding it a bit hard with having a newborn and you ds. Obviously this is my first time but was wondering steph would it helping you expressed and your dh fed on the night so you could put ds to bed on some occasions. Remember he didn't mean what he said, it's just little ones way of saying it how it is. Sounds good that you are getting sleep though. Good to hear they are putting on weight. Anyway, off to mark some books. By the way steph the pictures you posted onhere by your mums friend were stunning!!!!! Xxx

 

[steph1505]

Hey hoping so nice to hear from u! And thanks for facebook add!! Now we can properly stalk each other haha!

Do u kno, im not even breastfeeding! But Oliver doesnt seem to settle as quickly on OH as what he will on me! So thats why I always end up with him! OH tries and it always ends up with him passing him to me! Maybe we need to just see it through and make Oliver settle on his daddy! The other option we have is to keep Brandon up until Oliver is asleep, but I dont think thats fair on him! Ugh its early days yet, Im sure we'l get there eventually! It'll be good wen they have the same bedtime and we can just read them both a story and then leave them to chat to each other til they fall asleep lol!

Hope ur not workin too hard!! Not long til summer hols! Yay!

Smiley - thats really good Oscar will fall asleep himself! Oliver just doesnt! Ive never heard of a newborn who wont even fall asleep while out a walk in the pram! But oh no, here he is! I have him lol! I know everyone says he'l never learn to fall asleep himself, but hes 3 weeks old lol! Im not worried! And he point blank refuses to take a dummy! We have tried 3 different brands and he just gags whenever we put them in his mouth!

Ooh a roast is being brought round? Very nice!! Were gettin a chinese! A nice traditional sunday dinner lol xxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Haha Steph - DS1 was exactly like that for the first 6 weeks of his life. (i've just wrtten about it in my journal) he would not fall asleep without being rocked etc. It was a nightmare - but once 6 weeks hit and we were able to hit him up with a routine he was the easiest baby to put to sleep. So just do what you need to do for a few more weeks - you wont spoil him, you can tackle the self soothing thing when he's just a little bit older! Enjoy the cuddles! It will be a lot easier when they go to bed together though wont it - i'm really looking forward to that

How does he like his swing? Could you put him in that whilst you're getting Brandon into bed? Just something to buy you those few mins!

With the dummy thing, if you want him to have one then you should keep trying it. Neither of mine actually wanted a dummy at first (spat it out, gagged a bit) but if he spits it out just keep going (as long as he isn't upset!) a trick I learnt was to put it in his mouth then keep tapping the outside ....I don't know what i'd have done if DS1 (and now Oscar) didn't take a dummy so I've been very persistent with it Obviously if you're not that fussed then ignore my pro-dummy persistence!!

Haha I am actually a bit jealous of your traditional Sunday Chinese dinner!

Hoping - Congrats on officially 2nd tri! As steph said - hope you're not working too hard and are able to put your feet up a bit!

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Aah thanks for the tip!! Brandon had a dummy in his mouth from day 1, he absolutely loved it! Tbh, he still has it at bedtime! The dummy was a total life saver with Brandon, but if theres one thing ive learned these past three weeks, its that Oliver defnitely isnt Brandon!

Ah it gives me hope that ur DS1 had to be rocked to sleep! Just had a read at ur journal...did uz really go a walk at 4am? Eek!! Oliver has definitely been a lot more settled today, but it is only half 2 lol! He has slept a lot more than normal today (more like wot a 3 week old should sleep!!) So im hoping hes learning to stop fighting the sleep! I think as well, now that ive realised that all that crying at the start was because he was tired, not hungry or had wind, i feel a lot better and know to just pick him up and settle him! Both times today, hes fell asleep within ten mins! I just hope he isnt up tonight now lol!

Lol and reading ur journal...u have commited the cardinal sin when u have a baby! Hes never gonna sleep now!! Lol i hope thats not true but it would be typical! Lol!

Xxxxxx

 

[CertainTurton]

Hi ladies,

lots of chatter

Steph- Im sorry to hear you are struggling with DS1- you know he doesnt mean it but it must have been so hard to hear that. I am so jealous of Olivers sleeping - uts great you can leave him to sleep in his basket for hours. Im sure its normal to be held at this stage - Eleanor still wont go down awake

Smiley - its great oscar will self settle sounds like his weight gain is great - well done you! how you finding feeding?

AFM - well things are good. cant believe she is 5 weeks old now! we are still struggling to get her to sleep in her crib/basket she wont go down awake as she will just lie there for a bit then start screaming. If we put her down asleep she may stay for 20mins or so but then wakes and gets really upset again so basically she is still falling asleep on us (mainly me) and is sleeping with me. Not what I had intended but at least this way we get some sleep! she is still going 2.5 -3 hrs between feeds in the day but has now gone up to 4 in the night now although it was only 3 last night...
the other thing were having problems with is her stomach - we are fortunate that eleanor hasnt been sicky at all but recently she is struggling with passing wind - she has lots of pooy nappies but now she seems to be in sooo much pain when trying to pass wind it seems to be mainly around 5am and its so hard. we have tried cycing her legs etc but it doesnt seem to help im wondering if its something im eating!?

 

[smiley330]

Morning!

Certain - I have heard that things you eat can affect baby, but I don't know enough about what foods might do what! Are you drinking lots of water? I have found drinking more has helped with Oscar's wind issues! Feeding is going well for us at the mo, he's pretty much on a 4 hourly schedule round the clock which i'm happy with - I have been trying to express though and cannot get hardly anything so just going to keep trying!

Steph - Haha, yes. We tried anything and everything at 4am (and all the hours of the morning actually) with DS1. Because he was terrible at getting to sleep whenever he woke for a feed it would take hours to get him back off again!

Glad Oliver is getting more sleep in the day!

AFM - Well OH has gone back to work today. I'm a bit sad... he is more sad! He admitted that last time he couldn't wait to get back to work (haha, cheers!) as it's much easier going to work... but he said this time things have been so calm and relaxed (meaning Oscar isn't as "unsettled" as DS1 was at this stage)

DS1 is at the childminders today so it's just me and the Oscar Bean - he's sleeping, I am enjoying a nice cup of tea and BnB. We haven't had any more meltdowns at bed time from DS1 either - so feeling very happy this morning with how everything is going. . . Ask me again 2mrw and things might be different!

Hope everyone else is good! x x x

 

[steph1505]

Hiya girls!

Certain - I cant believe Eleanor is 5 weeks already!! But then, i suppose if Oliver is 3 weeks...that makes sense! Im so glad ur feedings going well! I dont really know how different foods affect ur breastmilk, have u tried good old google? U could also try either Infacol, Dentinox or Colycinth Granules for wind? We have been using the Dentinox drops for Oliver and they really help him pass wind! We put them in his bottle, but u can also just put them directly in their mouth!

I really wouldnt worry about Eleanour sleeping on you, at this stage, u do anythin to get as much sleep as possible! Once she is a couple of months old you can try experementing with different things! Lol parenthood really is just one big experement!!

Does she smile or anything yet? I think its normally between 6 and 8 weeks they start smiling! I CANNOT wait to see Oliver smile! Can I ask, do u find it easier already than what u did in the earlier weeks?

Smiley - yaaaay to ur lovely relaxed morning!! Sounds lovely! Im so glad ur DS1 is goin to bed fine now! Makes a difference! We both managed to read Brandon his story last nite and he went down great! I think from now on, regardless of what Olivers doing, we need to both be there!

Lol aww i feel bad for ur OH! Altho, I think my OH is secretely a bit glad he only has a week left! Lol we r the opposites from u, 1st baby soooo relaxed, 2nd one not so much! Lol! Altho he didnt get any paternity leave with Brandon so it has been nice for him to have some time off!

AFM - Well Oliver has literally slept all day! He got up at 6.30 for a feed and was awake til abt 8...and has slept since!! We had to wake him for his next feed and he went straight back down again! So the three of us are just enjoying the quiet while it lasts lol!

Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Steph - So pleased you both got to give Brandon his story, this is what i've realised as well - that whatever Oscar is doing, we both have to take DS1 up to bed like we always used to. It's such a little thing, but honestly makes a world of difference to DS1!!

Haha it's lovely when they're sleeping lots in the day. I was worried that all the sleep would mean hell at night time, but with babies I think sleep breeds sleep! But yes, enjoy the quiet!!

Oscar is mixing it up a bit today and is going 3 hourly between feeds instead of the 4 he has been doing....For a while there I thought we may be able to predict when exactly he'd want feeding. Oh no, back to unpredictable baby!

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Lol aaaw bless him mixing it up! Maybe hes having a wee growth spurt!

Were over at MILs but she definitely agrees that there is something hurting Oliver which is causing him to be so unsettled! She got him to sleep in his pram and then he just let out this loud cry and that was him off again! The HV is comin out tomorrow so i am definitely saying to her!! I feel so bad for him, hes such a wee lamb! He was absolutely shattered, he'd been awake for about 3 hours and was desperate for a sleep but you could see that there is just something hurting him! MIL thinks its colic, but my instincts are telling me reflux! And i totally believe in mothers instinct!

Il let uz know how I get on with the HV...i hope shes supportive and agrees... Altho she is comin at half 10 in the morning when hes normally fine!!

Xxxxx

 

[Hopingitwill]

Hey girls. Glad to hear things are starting to settle down. Had a bit of panic last night has had a bit of blood when I wiped after going to loo. Had been a bitconstipated so had been straining but tmi warning was def front passage. Phoned midwife and she told me to go in to a&e which I did (at nearly 11pm). Had blood pressure, urine, bloods etc taken then a specialist pregnancy doctor came down to give me an internal. Bloody killed!!! Was pathetic going on about how I was going to cope with birth if I can't have internals. She said she could see some blood and there was some when she took 3 swabs. However she said womb looked fine. She said it looked like 'something' can't remember or understand name through her accent that was linked to hormones and how blood/ cervix reacts. Have to go for scan on thurs morning just to check everything ok. If I have any more problems I have to go straight back. Keep your fx that everything is ok. On a lighter note I was mortified as I hadn't shaved me legs and I kept apologising for it!!!!! Got home after 1:00 so early night needed tonight!!!

 

[CertainTurton]

Morning!

Aww Hoping how scary for you! but at least you got it checked out - if they were really worried they would have scanned you there and then got my fx crossed for thurs and def have an early night. Is there anyway you can rest up for the next few days?

Steph- oh no poor Oliver! I really hope the HV is supportive! I know how you feel though as Eleanors tummy just seems to be getting worse, we were up between 5am and 7,30am with it - she is now asleep in her swing :sigh: Im going to ask my doc about it at our 6 week check on friday. I have been using infacol since she was a week old and it def helped the colic but not with this bottom wind makes my heart break hearing her scream

Smiley - sorry Oscar is going less time but 3 hours is still good Eleanor decided 2hrly yesterday was a good idea :yawn: hope he settles back to 4hrs.

yes we have now had 4 smiles daddy got the 1st one, then my mum, then her giraffe, then me....so im not top priority was lovely but not had anymore since.
Uh oh shes woken up for food....hope u are all well... x

 

[steph1505]

Hey!!

Hoping - god that must have been scary!! Could it have been a cervical erosion? I had that when I was pregnant with Brandon! Nothing to worry about but that doesnt stop u worrying!! Im so glad all is ok though! I hope the scan goes well! Like certain says, if they had been worried they had scanned u there and then!

Lol and dnt be embarassed abt havin hairy legs lol!! Apparently in labour i kept apologising that my lady garden wasnt as tidy as it should be!!! Haha!! I dont think doctors expect pregnant women to be nice and groomed!

Certain - thats such a shame poor wee eleanors havin such a hard time with her wind! It is so hard to see them in pain and not be able to do anythin!

Smiley - all is well??

AFM- well HV has been! OH had taken Brandon out to his gymnastics class and by the time HV arrived, Oliver had been screaming for an hour! So she walked in and I burst out crying! She 100% agrees he has reflux and she is gonna go down and speak to the doctor who our appointment is with this afternoon! Im so relieved she agreee with us! She said they will prob give us gaviscon for him and then possibly change his milk too! But she said they might wait a week and see if the gaviscon makes a difference before changing his milk! Im just so glad something is gonna get done! I hate him being in so much pain! On the positive note, it isnt affecting his weight gain...the wee monster weighs 9lb 2oz now! A whole 15oz heavier in one week!!

Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Evening!

Hoping - ah that must have been very scary it does sound as if it's nothing to worry about and everything will be fine though. It will be nice to see your baby again, let us know how you get on!

Certain - That's so lovely you are getting smiles (even if you are 4th in line - giraffes are funny ) Sorry Eleanor is still having wind issues, I hope your doc can offer some help?!

Steph - that's great your HV has agreed with u and hopefully your docs appointment went well? Infant Gaviscon is great stuff, it really helped DS1 so fx it helps little Oliver. And wow! What a great weight gain he's had this week, He's obviously doing really well despite the painful reflux bless him.
! Hope you are feeling better now about everything!

x x x x x

 

[smiley330]

Oh no Steph, I've just seen your fb status - what did docs say? x x x x

 

[CertainTurton]

Yeah steph, what's uP?

Yawn- I'm up with a grizzly, fidgety lo

 

[steph1505]

Hey girls!

Well the GP sent us up to the hospital for Oliver to be under observation which i thought was dramatic but fine! He said it was to check for a condition that he is apparently too young to have anyway

So we have to drop Brandon off at MILs, get to the hospital and Oliver was hungry. It had been 3 and a half hours since we last fed him but the doctors were prodding and poking him! We were eventually told we could feed him and he fell asleep after it.

So the doc then comes in and says, yeah hes got reflux but hes obviously not in too much so i dont see the need to prescribe anythin!

Que the worst night of my life! Ive never heard him cry in pain the way he was last night! So im phoning the docs at half 8 again and im demanding something! He is in absolute agony!! I cant watch him like that anymore!!

Xxxxxx

 

[steph1505]

Weve also been told not to feed him before 4 hours since his last feed! Thats gonna be fun!!

Xxxxxxx

 

[steph1505]

Hey girls!

Well the GP sent us up to the hospital for Oliver to be under observation which i thought was dramatic but fine! He said it was to check for a condition that he is apparently too young to have anyway

So we have to drop Brandon off at MILs, get to the hospital and Oliver was hungry. It had been 3 and a half hours since we last fed him but the doctors were prodding and poking him! We were eventually told we could feed him and he fell asleep after it.

So the doc then comes in and says, yeah hes got reflux but hes obviously not in too much so i dont see the need to prescribe anythin!

Que the worst night of my life! Ive never heard him cry in pain the way he was last night! So im phoning the docs at half 8 again and im demanding something! He is in absolute agony!! I cant watch him like that anymore!!

Xxxxxx