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[CertainTurton]

Oh no what a night it seems so silly they won't prescribe anything! I hope you manage to get through to them today. It's so hard seeing them in pain! Why do you have to go 4hrs between? What does he normally go for? I hope you have a better day.

 

[smiley330]

Oh Steph, what a pain!! How long were u at the hospital for? You can buy infant gaviscon over the counter but you'd prob have to tell a fib and say you're friend has sent u for some for their 6 year old child type thing... I remember running out and having to go buy some. At least you'll have something!

FX you get a better doctor today and they just give u a prescription! I can't believe the hospital agreed he had reflux but didn't give u anything, he is obviously in pain bless him!

Why did they say to make him go 4 hours between feeds? That seems strange!



Keep us updated! x x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Hey!!

We went back to the doctors and it was the same GP as yesterday but he was absolutely raging that the hospital sent us away empty handed! He kept saying how sorry he was & that he was gonna phone them and give them hell!

So we now have infant gaviscon im so relieved!! I really hope it makes a difference to him!

She said we need to space him out 4hours to minimise the amount of milk in his stomach so there is less to come back up! Easier said than done tho when hes crying for food after 2 and a half hours! I understand the thought behind it but puting into practice is gonna be difficult!

Sorry for rambling about Oliver!!

How is everyone else getting on?

Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

YAAAAYYYY!!! So pleased you've got something FX you find it helps him, i'm sure it will do

Ahh ok, I can see the thought behind that. But yeah, telling a hungry baby he has to wait another hour or so might be difficult - I would try not to get too stressed about doing that hun, if you can space him out to 4 hours then great - but don't worry too much if you can't?

So glad you've gotten somewhere though and that your doctor has listened to you!

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Today has definitely been a better day! He did still have a lot of pain in the evening time, but i would say less than wot he has been having! He definitely settled quicker! So i really hope that the Gaviscon will help him! Hes such a wee lamb! I just wanna cuddle him all day! But, and this is a huge achievement...todays the first day since he was born that I havent cried I kno that sounds terrible, its been over 3 weeks lol!

Smiley, when ur DS1 was put on the gaviscon, did it take a few days to make a difference? Also, can u remember if it made him constipated? Todays the first day Oliver hasnt poo'd and ive read it can constipate them! So now im a bit worried abt that! The HV said we should give him some water between feeds so hopefully if we do that it might keep things moving!

How is everyone else doing? I feel like all ive done is talk abt myself, sorry!

Xxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Hello!

Steph - Glad you had a better day yesterday Ahhh bless your little heart, i'm so glad you've had a day without crying Have you been upset about anything in particular, or just a case of "everything + hormones" Make sure you are getting everything off your chest though, have you been speaking a lot to OH? Definitely come on here and rant to us whenever u want!!!! We are all in similar situations and will be able to relate

When DS1 was on Gaviscon, I noticed a difference pretty much from the first bottle. It just seemed to settle the amount of pain he had from the acid coming back up straight away - but it continued to improve and def really kicked in over the next couple of days! I can't remember if he was consitpated actually, I don't thinks so because we also had him on Cow and Gate Comfort milk (which does the opposite of constipate) - but we actually found Aptamil the best for him in the end - what milk is Oliver on?

How are you getting on with keeping him going every 4 hours??

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Hey ladies!!

Smiley, Oliver is on Aptamil so thats good! I had thought abt changing him to Cow and Gate Comfort but thought id be as well changing one thing at a time and see how it goes!

Aah...i dont even know what i am feeling! I think when i was pregnant, i had this image of what the 4 of us would be like...and im disappointed that its not the reality (i know thats stupid!) And Oliver HATES his pram! He cries constantly in it! Im gonna try him in the actual pushchair part of the pram, i dnt kno if the fact that he lies flat in the carrycot may be hurting him! I had thought that wen OH went back to work id feel super confident and be able to take the two boys out walks to the park but i actually dnt want to leave the house! I am so nervous that Oliver is gonna cry! And i dont know why because i wasnt like this with Brandon! I just cant stress how much I want Oliver to be that wee bit bigger so he can be entertained by his mat or bouncy chair! He wants to be held ALL the time!

Sorry, im just really struggling with this! And i just wish i knew why! Im a confident person and before Oliver came, i thought i was a really good mum! But now i have this tiny wee baby who cries and cries and i dnt kno why! I guess i just thought it would be easy this time round...and its not xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Hello!

Certain / Hoping - all ok with you both?

Steph - Yeah Aptamil was by far the best for DS1, the C&G comfort was ok - but it's so thick, and then if you put Gaviscon in it makes it even thicker, so was making it quite difficult to get through the teat (even on the bigger ones!) But if you don't see much improvement definitely try it, it's worth trying - you can always swap back!

I wish I could send you bigger hugs!! You are a brilliant mum! It is hard when you have a baby who is in pain, and there really is so little you can do. But I promise, it will pass soon. Just got to do what you can for now.

Give yourself a bit of time, you will feel confident taking them out but it's still really early days!! Have you got a sling? Oliver might prefer it in one of those than lying flat. (again, prop up the mattress of his pram to see if that helps?) But if he likes to be held all the time then this will definitely help with that, you'll have your hands free to see to Brandon. I've got a sleepy wrap, which I would recommend!

Don't say sorry though, you are doing a wonderful job - those boys are very lucky to have you! Don't be so hard on yourself

How was Oliver last night? Are you seeing more improvements from the Gaviscon?


x x x x

 

[CertainTurton]

Steph - im so sorry you are struggling. I completely understand about the crying, i was pretty much the same for the first 2 weeks and you have so much more on your plate. Dont beat yourself up about it, I agree with smiley about the sling - it will help you to be able to do things and focus on DS1 as well Dont rush into leaving the house yourself, do you have friends who will come with you? you will become more confident in time. I really hope the gaviscon is working now - so pleased the doc helped you! poor little thing!

Smiley - hows things? has oscar gone back to his longer gaps between feeds? hows the sleep?

AFM - we are doing ok. we had our 6 week check today and all was fine she now weighs...wait for it....11lb!! cant believe it! the doc checked all her limbs etc and put something on her umblicil cord - nitrate something!? but said all was fine. She has suggested gripe water for the wind so ive ordered some as the chemist has sold out fx it helps as we were up for 3 hrs last night from 5am....yawn! Its annoying she asked about feeding and i said about the shields and she said - your doing very well 'considering the shields' - although its nice she says im doing well it just bugs me how negative she was about them oh well.
We are off to Devon for the week now so may not be on as much but dont worry we will be doing the great grandparent rounds

Hope you are all ok!

 

[Beauty2]

Hi Ladies!

How is everyone? Oh my goodness, these baby pics are to die for!!! I love them!!!! Such cute little babies! I'm soooo jealous! Can't wait to have my little man!

Steph - Oh, darling! seems like you're having such a hard time. I can relate, though, as I had a hard time with DD. And I can only imagine how much more harder it is with two children (toddler and newborn) geesh! You hang in there. I know, easier said than done but I'm sure it just takes time getting used to having more than one. DS1 will get used to things and so will you and OH. The great thing about humans is that we adapt but it just takes time. Don't be hard on yourself. Whatever you feel like for that day, you do it and enjoy and don't feel guilty. Your body is coming off of some VERY serious hormones and it'll take time to get back to your bubbly self. But don't worry, you'll do fine. I personally think you are doing wonderfully! I only hope I can handle things as well as you when my bubby gets here. I had postpartum depression with DD and I was still in school. It took a lot out of me. Chin up lovely

Smiley face - how I've missed you! So glad little man is here. Goodness he's a cutie! How are things with baby and fam?

Certain - I'm glad things are going well for you. Well done in bf!!! Might need some tips from you later

Hoping - How are you?

AFM - 8 more weeks to go! Can't get here fast enough! I'm going to regret saying that later. I'm feel so sorry for you ladies that are having a bit of a difficult time. It also scares me. I just hope I can handle things as good as you. Had my appt yesterday and all is well. Baby's heart beat is 133 (I think). DD finally went to an appt with me and she was excited and a little confused. Doc checked my cervix as I was having a bit of pain but it's closed and baby's head is right there. Hoping for a vaginal delivery but it's definitely looking promising. I'm sure I won't get anymore scans but wish I could just get one more. I want to know how much baby weights. Although, it's not always accurate.

Anyhoo, I hope everyone has a very lovely weekend! Happy Friday!!

 

[Hopingitwill]

Wow only 8 weeks beauty- it will pass in no time.
Steph- don't put yourself down you are a fantastic mum and you could not be doing anymore for your two baby boys. They are very lucky to have you. Hopefully things will settle more now you have been prescribed something to help him.
Certain- nice weight gain. Any luck with putting Eleanor down on her own yet? I wouldn't worry you will be wishing for hugs when she is older. Take them while you can!
Smiley- how's things with you Hun- enjoying it or knackered?

Afm- had scan following bleed and everything was normal. Placenta was not lying low which was one of the things they were worried about. Was amazing to see the difference in 2and a half weeks. He (I think it's a boy) was very stubborn and would mot turn round and show his face. Only wanted to moon us!!! Def his fathers child as so far at first scan we had 'laid back' and now at this second one ' stubborn'. Had horrible heartburn on saturday which meant a 4:00am trip to the garage for some gaviscon!! Apart from that am well and enjoying the long weekend!
Big hugs girls xxx

 

[steph1505]

Hey girls :wave: how r u all doing?

Certain - thats a fab weight gain for Eleanor!! So glad the check up went well! How was ur weekend away?

Beauty - god i cant believe uv only got 8 weeks left! That'll fly in! Woo hoo
Thanks so much for ur words im sure ul be great wen baby comes along! I seem to be in the minority of people whos 2nd baby is harder than their 1st!

Hoping - aw glad the scan went well what does the low lying placenta mean for u? Do u need to keep an eye on it?

Smiley - thanks for bein so nice how have u been gettin on since OH went back to work? How is Oscar gettin on?

AFM - well OH went back to work this morning! And Brandon is loaded with the cold, so ive got my hands full with Oliver and a clingy toddler! Ah well, nothin like gettin flung in at the deep end lol! Xxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Hello!!

Beauty - Glad to see all going well with you, wow - can't believe only 8 weeks to go. It will fly!!

Hoping - So pleased all went well at your scan! Ah the heartburn is a killer isn't it, just make sure you have a good supply of Gaviscon / get it on repeat prescription!

Certain - Wow, Eleanor is up to 11lbs - that's great!!! Well done you! Glad the 6 week check is all good as well. Don't pay attention to the comment on the shields! You are doing well full stop! Hope you have a nice time away

Steph - Ah i've been worried about you!! How have you found it without OH? Is Oliver any better? That's typical that Brandon has a cold now

AFM - We are getting on well!! Oscar still has a bunged up nose and finding it hard to breathe but it doesn't seem to be bothering him that much. We are on about 3 hourly feeds in the day and 4 hours at night, which means we have a waking about 12/1am then again at 4/5am and up at about 8 - so really can't complain. BF is going really well still, and he feels like he has put on lots of weight. He has filled out loads, so i'll be interested to see how much he weighs on Weds. Definitely not my scrunched up newborn any more

So yeah, all going well our end!! Absolutely loving every second and finding things so much more chilled this time around than they were with DS1. I'm just a bit sad that he's 3 weeks old already tomorrow.... it's going too fast!!!!!

x x x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Aww u dont need to worry about me haha! I just needed a fee days to clear my head and start again if u kno what i mean!

It was MILs 50th this weekend and we all had a girlie spa day away which was just what i needed! A day sitting in a jacuzzi and then getting a massage! It really helped me think things through and just get a grip of myself!

Im doing ok without OH! Im so suprised! Had a rough few hours with Oliver this morning but he was just overtired! Hes been a lot better since we started him on the Gaviscon, not 100% better but definitely a lot more settled! I think im still gonna ask for the prescription milk to see how he goes on that! My mum said i might as well try get it and see if it improves him, and its free obviously which would be another wee bonus!

And he is going 4 hours now thru the day! I never thought id see the day!!

So we're slowly gettin there! I took down all the cards today which i was really sad about! Hes a month old tomorrow so i know exactly how ur feeling! They r no longer "new" lol!

Im so glad the bf is going so well for u this time round !! And hes doing so well, def sounds like a wee muncher! And i really hope i soon have the same "loving every second" attitude as u! Right now i love most seconds lol! There was a death in the family last week, a baby, and it really put things into perspective for us all! Made me realise truely how blessed we all are and that no matter how much Oliver cries and needs held all the time...hes my wee blessing and i wouldnt swap him for the world!

Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Ah im glad youre feeling better!! A spa day sounds like bliss, I need to get me one of those

Sorry to hear about that bad news, a baby? That must be very sad and difficult, things like that do put everything into perspective though.

Yeah if u can get milk on prescription then u may aswell try it!! We had some lactose free stuff for DS1 on prescription at some point and it was great not having to pay for it! Small bonuses!

4 hours during the day is great, and is he still sleeping well at night?

We've had a few moments where Oscar has gotten so over tired in the day, its so hard to get out of that once your in it! He can stay awake roughly 45mins to an hour happily before we get into over-tired territory!

x x x x x

 

[steph1505]

I just had a wee read at ur journal so was reading abt Oscar being overtired! I kno exactly wot u mean abt trying to get out of it! Oliver will close his eyes and settle, we breathe a sigh of relief and then BOOM!! Eyes are open and hes screaming again! He stays awake faaaar too long! Is that what Oscar does? Its so hard cos u just wanna scream at them "if u close ur eyes and calm it, ul feel so much better!"

Yeah, my MILs cousin was 23 weeks pregnant and her placenta burst! She gave birth to a baby boy who lived for 90mins! So sad! I feel awful for her, especially as in the last month, 2 baby boys have been born in the family! Cant imagine wot she is goin thru!

Yeah hes goin between 6 and 8 hours at night, occasionally nearer 10!! So were def lucky that way! Ive put him up to 5oz bottles today as he had been draining his 4oz so il see if that makes a difference!

Btw...how jealous am i that u are already at ur pre pregnancy weight! I have just under a stone to lose Good on u gurl! Wooo! Yummy mummy indeed!!

Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Morning!

Yep, when Oscar hits that overtired stage he'll keep drifting off then all of a sudden he'll be awake and crying his face off again!! He gets so angry!! I am really careful to try not to let him miss his sleep window, but sometimes you can't help it - I have found that putting a softy (muslin) over his face helps! Haha!

Oh that is heartbreaking for your MIL's cousin, that's so sad. I can't even begin to think how I'd cope with something like that.

Oliver is doing really well at night isn't he, good boy!! He's eating well as well isn't he - yeah if he's taking 4oz well then def put him up and see if he wants it. Have you had him weighed recently?

Haha, thanks I was quite surprised when I got on the scales totally expecting to still be a way off. But my shape has changed since having Oscar so i'm going to have to get used to that! You're not far off either though, good work!!

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Haha aww my wee nephew used to have to have a muslin over his face! Strange children

We had the night from hell last nite! I hate this reflux so much! Oliver was bringing stuff up and choking on it all night! I eventually took him into bed with me and sat up so he was lying upright on my chest! But even that didnt work great! I feel so bad for him! Weve got a doctors appointment this afternoon at 4pm, i just hope we get the same doctor as before! The gaviscon clearly isnt working! Im absolutely shattered, as is Oliver! Im goin over to MILs quite soon just for a cuddle really! Smiley, if ur DS1 had reflux, i honestly dont know how uz could have had another...this is enough to put me off anymore ever!

How r u gettin on with OH being at work? Xxxxxx
Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Ah no, poor Oliver and poor you!! Hopefully this doctor will give you that prescription milk and that makes a difference. There are a lot of other things that they can give him as well, so don't be disheartened that the Gaviscon hasn't worked - just a case of finding what will work!

To be honest, with DS1 I didn't realise that wasn't normal. Only now having Oscar has it shown me that not all babies have those problems and are as unsettled etc. I also forgot a lot of what he was like until now as well, like you saying you sat with Oliver on your chest all night - we did that so many times! We have a nursing chair and we used to take shifts to sit up with him whilst the other slept for an hour! It was crazy, but I honestly just thought that was the norm!

We were lucky in that after 6 weeks he was SO much better (whether it was the milk, the Gaviscon, one of the other million remedies we were using or just that he grew out of it, I don't know!) So in the grand scheme of things it wasn't that long we had to deal with the reflux. All of a sudden we had a happy baby and that instantly makes you forget how hard it had been up to that point.

Been getting on ok with OH at work, I only have both boys twice during the week though so I can't grumble! I've made sure we do something / see people on the days I have DS1 so he's entertained - and just keeping to our usual routine as much as possible really.

That's good you can head over to your MIL's - what about your family? Do they live further away?

x x x x

 

[Beauty2]

Thanks, ladies! Things aren't progressing fast enough for me! But you know how those last two months go. It drags! How are you ladies doing? Catch up with ya in a sec! So excited to hear bout your little babies!
And your scan, Hoping!