Sneaking back in...

[WishnandHopn]

Thanks ladies! I've had a good birthday A belly full of chocolate cake is a nice way to end the day!

We will be in Paris for 6 days total, so we will probably do a couple of day trips, likely Versailles and maybe the D-day beaches, although that's a bit of a trek for a day trip. Mont St-Michel does look really cool!

MK keeping my Fx for you on Sunday! It really is a cruel joke how similar PMS and early pregnancy symptoms can be.

Belle, I love Boston, I've been there a few times for work. I liked Beacon Hill, Boston Common and the public gardens, and there are really good italian restaurants in the North End.

It's probably a good call not to start a new drug when you're travelling or moving...who knows how it will affect you. I actually had a CRAZY dream a couple nights ago where I was trying to breast feed my baby and I had TWO nipples on my left breast. Very strange!

 

[MKaykes]

I tested today...BFN 🙁. It's still early, but feeling like I'm probably out. Had some brown spotting today, so some hope for IB?

 

[WishnandHopn]

MK sorry for the BFN Brown spotting could be IB! Do you ever spot before AF?

I also tested yesterday and it was BFN but after it dried hours later there was this crazy pink evap line. I put water on it and faded away. So annoying!!! I didn't retest today...trying to wait till Tuesday (14 dpo).

 

[MKaykes]

Well, turns out the spotting was AF. I may be wrong about O date, or my LP is still on the short side even with progesterone. Definitely on CD1 today. I surrender to IUI I guess!

 

[BelleNuit]

Oh MK I'm so sorry I hate that witch. I hope you can find a way to make it up to yourself over the next week!

 

[MissDoc]

MKaye, Sorry the witch got you. But bring on the IUI... that part is exciting!

Wishn, what a great birthday. When will you retest? I hate evaps... felt frers were the worst for that. I got so many of those. But I still think it should promising, :9 I hope you retest ASAP!

Belle, I hope Boston is just amazing!

 

[WishnandHopn]

MK I'm so sorry the witch got you...I think she's getting me too! Stupid effing witch! I started spotting and cramping today, also a couple days earlier than expected. I guess early is better than late...hopefully my first AF post-surgery won't be horrible, or if it is, the worst of it will be over before we fly away on Wednesday.

 

[BelleNuit]

Oh Wishn I sure hope it's not AF on the way for you. If it is at least you will be in Paris where you can enjoy all the wine you want!

I hope you have a wonderful awesome time!

My acupuncturist yesterday suggested that I try a mixture of Chinese herbs this cycle so I decided to give it a try since I'm not taking femara. Who knows maybe the herbs will be just the thing.

 

[WishnandHopn]

Yup the damn witch got me yesterday. CD2 today and it hurts so bad I just want to go home and curl up in bed I guess in some ways it's a blessing she came early...should be almost done by the time we get to Paris on Thursday morning. And yes, there will definitely be wine!

Good luck with the herbs, Belle, I hope they help!

 

[BelleNuit]

Oh Wishn I'm sorry to hear that. Even when you expect AF it still sucks when it shows!

I have high hopes that a fresh new cycle, and a vacation thrown into the mix will be just the thing for you!!

 

[MKaykes]

Wishn: Sorry you've joined me at the start of another cycle! I wish it were the kind of thing that gets easier with time, but it seems to just get harder! But, on the bright side you won't have any concerns over your vacation in Paris, you can enjoy wine and meats and not be concerned, then when you get home you can get down to business BDing for the next cycle!

Belle - have a great trip in Boston, safe travels! Don't watch the US news with the election, lol! As much as I would love it to be over as of Wed, I have a feeling the media will continue to bombard us here for the weeks to come, I'm over it!! (though you probably hear some of it up in CA??)

We go in to the doctor on Wed to set the game plan for IUI. I've done some research (thank goodness for school giving me access to medical journals...or not?) and with endo my chances on our own are like 2%, IUI bumps it up to 4ish%, clomid about the same, and only slightly more with both clomid or the like and IUI. Best chances look like injectables and IUI, but still only like 10%. I kind of want to ask if we can just go all in right away, but we'll see what he suggests, he had mentioned one cycle IUI unmedicated, so I could be convinced.

MissDoc: thanks for checking in here - hope all is going well with your little guy! Getting close to the 2nd tri!!

 

[MissDoc]

Thanks, MK! The little boy is doing well as far as I know. Check up next Thursday, but next scan isn't until Dec. 16th. I listen in with a home fetal doppler and that gives me some peace of mind. Everyone counts the first tri as something different. I'm going to go with gestationally, so for me, 13 weeks 3 days should be last day of first third of pregnancy... 4 more days until I'm out of this worrisome tri!

I'm really rooting for you to jump into intervention, lol. Not because it's fun, but because it is so nice feeling like you have things that are helping you get closer to a baby. Good luck with your first IUI!

I'm trying to keep updates minimal here as I don't want to be triggering or bothersome, but I do follow and root for you all all the time!

 

[MKaykes]

Started Femara today! Was glad to hear that was dr's first choice for us, as I've heard less side effects than Clomid. He said it's been shown to improve egg development and lining (which had improved slightly with progesterone, but still may be lacking) , not just possibly stimulating multiple follicles for better odds. We had to have the conversation about the possibility of having to "reduce" if over 3-4 were to take...I don't want to be faced with that after all this work to make a baby! Hoping I don't respond too aggressively to medication (which would be rare). Since I can't say I'd agree to reduce, they cancel the cycle if there are over 3 follies.

Belle and Wishn - Can't wait to hear about your trips when you return!

 

[BelleNuit]

MK I will be following closely to see how femara works for you as that will be my next step in January!

I have also wondered what would happen if I got pregnant with triplets or quads. A selective reduction would be a terrible decision to make. I've also been wondering what I would do with any left over embryos if we had to do IVF. There are serious ethical considerations with fertility treatments that most people never have to face. I think that's part of why I'm not ready for all that yet. I need some time to wrap my head around it all.

Boston was lovely! We enjoyed the warmer weather and fall leaves, such a beautiful city! I'm happy to be back home though DH and I were too tired in Boston to do any BDing haha. Oh well we got it in today and the earliest I would O would be tomorrow so that should be enough. We'll do it a couple more times and call it good!

Our move is imminent now! Will be getting our house on Monday! So exciting!

Wishn I hope you're having a great time in Paris!!

 

[BelleNuit]

I'm pretty confident today is O day. Had a positive OPK yesterday, cramping on one side today (I have NEVER had ovulation cramping before and actually doubted that it existed LOL) and even had a fair amount of spotting (don't usually get ovulation spotting either). Thinking it must be the herbs switching things up. I hope the spotting means that I managed to develop a nice thick lining this month.

We were only able to BD yesterday and today, but days and days of marathon BDing have done nothing for us in the past, so hopefully it won't matter much. I'm feeling kind of excited and giddy today. I haven't felt this positive in awhile. I hope I'm not in for a big let down in a couple weeks. Thats the worst part of TTC; the swing between hope and despair.

Yesterday was a tough day. Not only did our flight get delayed 11 hours in the montreal airport (so we had to spend the night at the airport) but it was also my dads birthday yesterday. So pretty much immediately after getting home from travelling we drove 2 hours to his house for his bday party. Get there and my aunt (who is a new grandma, my cousin had her baby just 3 weeks ago) cannot stop harrassing me about when we are going to start trying. She said three times IN A ROW not to wait too long. It was like I was being stabbed. My dad and my step mom stood up for us and kept saying things like it'll happen in its own time. My aunt doesn't know we've been trying for a year already. At one point I left and went to the bathroom to cry. No one noticed my eyes were red from crying because I was already so drained and tired looking for travelling.

But today is a new day and things feel good so far. Just taking a break from cleaning and finishing up packing. Tomorrow is moving day! AHH!!

 

[MKaykes]

Belle - glad you had a good trip! Stay positive! It's hard to have those rough days, we all have them. You've got a great attitude, everyday is a new day...and every cycle is a new cycle too! I hope this could be your month!

I finished my letrazole/femara last night. Happy to report no side effects! I have my follicle ultrasound tomorrow to get started on timing monitoring.

I was disappointed to talk to my insurance again and the clinic's business office and it is unlikely that any of it will be covered...so I'm really hoping we only need one cycle because I really don't want to start over with a new doctor, but we can't afford $1000 month after month especially if we can use insurance at another clinic and only post a couple hundred.

 

[2much]

Belle- so sorry about the travel issues and then your family being annoying. It can definitely become hurtful, although I think usually their intentions are good! People are just clueless. Ugh.

Mkayes- Glad you had no symptoms! I haven't done femara, I've been on Clomid. But I may try femara since my lining has been on the thin side (6.1 last month, 7.3 this month). Let us know how your follicle scan goes! My insurance doesn't cover infertility at all beyond the diagnosis. I *thought* I would have to pay completely out of pocket for everything (that is what the insurance rep on the phone told me), but the way my doctors office coded the ultrasounds, they have gotten paid so far! I have had to pay for the medication (Clomid, Ovidrel = about $150/month total) out of pocket, but at least the scans are getting paid for (2 a month at $200 each!) They have just been coding them as pelvic ultrasounds. Could you ask your doctors office about that? It sounds like you did but maybe there is still hope. Good luck! I know how stressful it can be financially.

 

[MKaykes]

My FUS went well today. Looks like femara sped my cycle up a but too. I'm only CD10, so I'd usually give myself a week until O, one follie was 14.5mm so I'm going back Fri for another scan and a trigger...we'll see if insurance covers the Ovidrel some I do have infertility coverage, problem is it has to go through mail order and they just sent it over today. I wish my Dr had told us about the Torrey last week as we could have already had it ordered. He does some of the planning but all the scan and timing management is done by the nurse practitioners. They've already coded a little of my earlier US as diagnostic, and the insurance company catches on if they continue to do that, especially when paired with IUI. If we aren't succeful this round, I have a feeling we'll be switching clinics...

Planning for IUI on Sat morning!!

 

[2much]

My FUS went well today. Looks like femara sped my cycle up a but too. I'm only CD10, so I'd usually give myself a week until O, one follie was 14.5mm so I'm going back Fri for another scan and a trigger...we'll see if insurance covers the Ovidrel some I do have infertility coverage, problem is it has to go through mail order and they just sent it over today. I wish my Dr had told us about the Torrey last week as we could have already had it ordered. He does some of the planning but all the scan and timing management is done by the nurse practitioners. They've already coded a little of my earlier US as diagnostic, and the insurance company catches on if they continue to do that, especially when paired with IUI. If we aren't succeful this round, I have a feeling we'll be switching clinics...

Planning for IUI on Sat morning!!

I did the mail order for Ovidrel too- it was a breeze for me two times so far. Hope it's easy for you!

GOOD LUCK Saturday! Will be thinking of you.

 

[MKaykes]

Thanks 2much...stressing a little over the last hour having trouble getting the Ovidrel filled at the moment, but telling myself it'll all be okay. Just like I remind myself when this journey is over it'll all be okay and it'll make perfect sense!