State, Private Or Home Schooling?

aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that :thumbup:
Yeah some people were saying that public school boys were like little snobs tbf. And there would be HELL to pay if we said state school kids were all council estate chavs! Neither is true! But it seems okay to slag one off but not the other? :wacko:
Not really fair.
 
I dont really agree with the idealist notion of putting money into public education so everyone gets the same high standard. You could preety much say that about anything in life. By that same logic, you are taking away freedom of choice.

Well i apply the same principle to healthcare as well, i don't see how it is a question of freedom of choice. Our national objective should be to provide the best available standard of education to all possible. Noone would choose a substandard school for their child would they.
Let me clarify that i do not believe state schooling is neccesarily substandard, nor do i think private is better. They both have their pros and cons. However imho the pros could be shared and the cons reduced if the 2 were merged together. All children would grow up with an understanding of the people in their area, poor or rich.Schools could afford to employ more teachers/pay them more. Schools could afford to keep a better standard of building and materials. Teachers would be provided more training.
By merging the 2 you wouldnt be taking away to options, you would instead be providing one fair comprimise x
 
I don't think that everyone that goes to private school is in a bubble. Just the young boys that I have to listen to on a daily basis on the bus. I did say that I don't think that is typical of all private school people.

I defo agree that some people are probably jealous. Usually people who have a chip on their shoulder. I know some people I went to school with had major problems with me moving away from the town I grew up in. They thought I thought I was too good for it. Lol - I just wanted to move away so I could experience living elsewhere!

A friend of mine lived in SA and was sent to boarding school in the UK as apparently the education system wasn't great where she lived. I feel sorry for her though, as she only saw her parents a few times a year. The school I went to wasn't great but I liked it and am glad it was only a 5 minute walk away and I got to see my parents everyday. I can defo say that means more to me than if I had been sent away to a school that had more opportunities. People are different though....

That's really sad for your friend. I could mever do that to Leni. My parents did it to me and it was really shite :nope:
 
aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile. I say it like it is, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's posts like yours, that actually start it off.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that :thumbup:

I find you really irritating aob, so instead i will just ignore you... :thumbup:
 
aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that :thumbup:
Yeah some people were saying that public school boys were like little snobs tbf. And there would be HELL to pay if we said state school kids were all council estate chavs! Neither is true! But it seems okay to slag one off but not the other? :wacko:
Not really fair.

You should know by now that is how it goes on here :lol:
 
aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile. I say it like it is, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's posts like yours, that actually start it off.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that :thumbup:

I find you really irritating aob, so instead i will just ignore you... :thumbup:

So irritating you keep adding me on FB? Okkkk.

Yes add me to your Ignore List.
 
I find it quite sad and actually ignorant that people assume that children that are privately educated automatically become snobbish, or in a 'bubble'. It just goes to show how much people don't know about private schools. I think sometimes people are actually quite jealous (i am not insinuating anyone here is jealous before anyone starts, BUT sometimes in 'real life' that's the reaction i get as people automatically seem to dismiss private education.)

I think that children will do the best they can in whatever school they are in. Nobody actually said that private schools are better in any way. I don't think they are 'better' just because i will be paying for it. They are not better than each other, they BOTH have their pro's and con's. I don't think it would be fair of me to say that children that go to state schools will have a shitty education because of huge classes or because of this and that, but it just isn't true. You cannot tar every school with the same brush. There's good in bad in ALL schools, smoking & drugs in all schools (predominantly private schools as the children are wealthy), plenty of good and bad going on everywhere.

Nobody should actually be bashing either side when they don't even know what they are talking about. Not everyone that goes to private school is a snobbish, up themselves arsehole who is better than anyone else. You get plenty of people that go to private school (like for me example, that actually rebel and don't get much out it - and that's down to my personality, i would have probably done the same in a s state school). However my brother is an ambitious hardworking soul who has done fabulously well in private education, BUT would have also done the same in a state school). My Dad grew up on one of the roughest shittiest council estates in Britain and went to really dreadful schools, never passed any exams, failed his 11+ but still worked damn hard and now writes software for Bill Gates. See, it's about personality & ambition, NOT school.

Our reasons simply are; smaller class size, more one-to-one attention, a say in what goes on, well-maintained and looked after school, excellent books and learning materials as the parent is paying for it all, and usually they do go to university - even the rebels! All round we just feel it's right for us, doesn't mean i think any child that goes to state school is a piece of shit and that Leni & I are better than them.

Anyway, what i am trying to say is; nobody said either school was better or worse than the another and nobody should be tarring anyone with the same brush. Kids that go to private school aren't snobby and better than everyone else, and kids that go to state schools are not under-privileged and will never go to University and fail.

Exactly. Alll of OH's friends are from similar very expensive schools...like ST Pauls, Harrow etc. And they aren't snobby shits at all! OH is a little bit snobby...but all his friends aren't. Most of them are SO well mannered and know alot about the world around them. They do things like voluntary charity work around the world and go travelling to learn more about others cultures, genuinely because they're interested and yes, they can afford to go travelling! They aren't all in their own little "david cameron" bubbles at all and it's quite insulting to them to say that "public school boys are all snobs".
Yes I think there is a bit of jealousy...not neccessarily everyone here...but there definitely IS jealousy...

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I reckon jealousy is a major factor and a lot of ignorance. I actually think deep down if people did have the money alot of parents would send their children to private school!

I don't agree at all. I actually don't even know what they cost because we plan to move back to Ireland and it isn't common there to have private schools. However, if I had serious reservations about state schools I would save the money or get a loan to ensure LO had the best education.

The fact is - for my family- I think it is a waste of money. I will be putting ahuge effort into helping LO with homework and making uni choices (if he wants to go to uni). That's what my Mum did with me and it worked!
 
IF we could afford private education (which we can't) we would look into what was available locally and weigh up the pros and cons for Ruby.

I don't like our local state primary school and am looking at alternatives.
 
How do people go about home schooling? I'm really interested. Do you the parent have to do some trainging? Or?
 
aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile. I say it like it is, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's posts like yours, that actually start it off.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that :thumbup:

I agree with a lot in your first post, and i also agree with defending public school boys as it wouldnt be fair the other way round. But there isn't any need to follow up your otherwise valid opinion with:
I reckon jealousy is a major factor and a lot of ignorance. I actually think deep down if people did have the money alot of parents would send their children to private school!

I think that makes it more personal against the people on the other side of the debate from you and undermines their opinion. Not the makings of a good discussion x
 
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I reckon jealousy is a major factor and a lot of ignorance. I actually think deep down if people did have the money alot of parents would send their children to private school!

I agree with you that a lot of people simply haven't had much to do with people who have gone to schools like Harrow, Eton, Marlborough etc and just perceive they must be out of touch and snobs. A lot of my friends (and OHs) have been to those schools and I have no issue with them and certainly don't think they are snobby (apart from occassional funny comments, such as my OH's ex-flatmate who geniunely couldn't believe that anyone could possibly live without a dishwasher).

However, we can afford private education but are choosing state. I'm simply not convinced that it's worth the money, but I understand your reasons for choosing that path. I do also agree that usually facilities are much better and certain non-academic opportunities, such as sports may be greater.
 
Trust me, it is no jealousy at all. I just feel very strongly about my child not growing up to be a snob and I think that is much more likely to happen if she goes to a private school and grows up only knowing people as privileged as she is! To assume that it is jealousy is completely misunderstanding our reasoning behind being against private schools, not everything is about money.

But then you are suggesting that children that go to private schools will be snobs? I don't want Leni to be a snob either. That's exactly the thing, it isn't about money at all, but for some people (and i did say i wasn't insinuating anyone on here was jealous) it is about jealousy.
 
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I reckon jealousy is a major factor and a lot of ignorance. I actually think deep down if people did have the money alot of parents would send their children to private school!

I agree with you that a lot of people simply haven't had much to do with people who have gone to schools like Harrow, Eton, Marlborough etc and just perceive they must be out of touch and snobs. A lot of my friends (and OHs) have been to those schools and I have no issue with them and certainly don't think they are snobby (apart from occassional funny comments, such as my OH's ex-flatmate who geniunely couldn't believe that anyone could possibly live without a dishwasher).

However, we can afford private education but are choosing state. I'm simply not convinced that it's worth the money, but I understand your reasons for choosing that path. I do also agree that usually facilities are much better and certain non-academic opportunities, such as sports may be greater.

Trust me, the reason I am so determined to not send my LO to a private school is because I do know so many privately educated people! (Having said that Marzipan Girl, Harrodian is definitely the best and the least snobby of all of them!)
 
Aidan will go to a good state school. Purley because I cant afford a private education.

Lellow you seem to have posted many controversial debate threads latley. Maybe they should be in the debate section because it seems that BC is turing into a debate club :) x
 
We will be home educating. I was home educated myself for four years and loved it. I believe that we can offer our children a wider range of learning opportunities suited to their individual needs and promote a true love of learning. Socialisation isn't an issue as we attend several home education meets each week (as well as other clubs and activities) and the children are able to spend time with children and adults of all ages, rather than just their own age. Here is my home schooling blog if anyone is interested. :) https://pyjamaschool.wordpress.com/
 
aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile. I say it like it is, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's posts like yours, that actually start it off.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that :thumbup:

I agree with a lot in your first post, and i also agree with defending public school boys as it wouldnt be fair the other way round. But there isn't any need to follow up your otherwise valid opinion with:
I reckon jealousy is a major factor and a lot of ignorance. I actually think deep down if people did have the money alot of parents would send their children to private school!

I think that makes it more personal against the people on the other side of the debate from you and undermines their opinion. Not the makings of a good discussion x

But it's true, jealousy does play a part sometimes.

I've actually had someone admit to my face that they were jealous which is why they used to belittle me about it. So it really does happen, so it is valid.
 
At nobody in particular - but I think there is every bit as much reverse snobbery going on as normal snobbery. I was subjected to a lot of reverse snobbery at my state school as I spoke with a more well spoken accent than my peers and my parents had a little more money than some. Being seen as 'posh' was the ultimate crime at my school and my life was made hell for it. Sure, I may have been teased for other things at a private school but not this!

So my point is, I would be no more happy about Ruby being a reverse snob, than a snob!
 
Trust me, it is no jealousy at all. I just feel very strongly about my child not growing up to be a snob and I think that is much more likely to happen if she goes to a private school and grows up only knowing people as privileged as she is! To assume that it is jealousy is completely misunderstanding our reasoning behind being against private schools, not everything is about money.

But then you are suggesting that children that go to private schools will be snobs? I don't want Leni to be a snob either. That's exactly the thing, it isn't about money at all, but for some people (and i did say i wasn't insinuating anyone on here was jealous) it is about jealousy.

But if you send your LO to a private school, then it is an undeniable fact that there is less diversity than a state school. This is something that is very important to me, but everyone has different priorities when it comes to education so thats fair enough. Although obviously not all private school kids end up snobby but you can't deny that they are far more likely to be snobs than state school kids!
 
In a way i don't like the school system in this country. In Germany you don't have private schools. everyone goes to ONE school, then at age 11 depending on your grade you can apply to go to a more advanced secondary school for more gifted children, but NOT dependant on money. I think it's not good that money should determine how good an education a child can get.
 

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