Thoughts on this....??

[tina3747]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

Yes your right but even they have bf problems too. Babies get fed honey and water for the calories or they'd die as bottles and formula are not an option. Is that a luxury of livingin a western society, I'd say so!!
And also they don't have the nutrition with foods so that's another reason they go on so long.
Bf over there must be so much easier they all walk around with their titty bang bangs out already, no faffy nursing bras in sight!!

 

[Bartness]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

Yes your right but even they have bf problems too. Babies get fed honey and water for the calories or they'd die as bottles and formula are not an option. Is that a luxury of livingin a western society, I'd say so!!
And also they don't have the nutrition with foods so that's another reason they go on so long.
Bf over there must be so much easier they all walk around with their titty bang bangs out already, no faffy nursing bras in sight!!

LOL!!

 

[MizzDeeDee]

I think there is a real social stigma to breastfeeding in Western world and I think it's ashame.

Who cares if the kid is 4? Not my cup of tea but I know it's not really as abnormal as we make it out to be.

 

[aliss]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

Yes your right but even they have bf problems too. Babies get fed honey and water for the calories or they'd die as bottles and formula are not an option. Is that a luxury of livingin a western society, I'd say so!!
And also they don't have the nutrition with foods so that's another reason they go on so long.
Bf over there must be so much easier they all walk around with their titty bang bangs out already, no faffy nursing bras in sight!!

Of course they have BF problems too but they don't get insulted for 'holding back'/embarassing/emotionally clinging to their children if they don't wean their babies before the baby is ready. THAT is something that people could learn a thing or two from.

PS they do have nursing bras in Nigeria and Mongolia, they aren't running around in loin cloths anymore....

 

[kerrie24]

i guess it boils down to cowsmilk being seen as acceptable to drink.. if that makes sense! and breastmilk not being so. (not my personal opinion)

Yep and do you not find that a bit weird? Its just cos cows can be bred to be milk cows and let people huge amounts everyday. If we could do that for humans it'd be human milk you buy on the shelves as its so much better for a human.

I dont think people find it strange because its breastmilk as opposed to cow milk, i think its the fact that he is still drinking from the breast that some people find a little weird. You would find it weird to see a child drinking directly from a cow udder! btw, each to their own, your child your choice xxx

Not a calf though.I dunno about your cows milk,but ours comes in a carton,not an udder

 

[kerrie24]

I think its such a shame some babies have to go into a public toilet to be fed
A bf woman should be able to feed wherever a ff woman can without feeling awkward.

 

[ellie]

How awful for your friend.
Wish people would learn to keep their stupid opinions to themselves and not think they have the right to just march up to ocmplete strangers and have a go at them ... who do they think they are??!
I wonder if she (the nasty woman) would have had a similar go about a 4 year old with a dummy or bottle...? I certainly see more of that than I do anyone bf'ing older kids (or in fact any age babies) around here ....
It's disgraceful though, that any mother, no matter what she does, seems to be unwittingly available for public scrutiny and criticism by any old random who thinks its any of their damn business - society has a really crappy view of motherhood generally, never mind feeding choices.

 

[cherryglitter]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

can you enlighten me ?

 

[tina3747]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

can you enlighten me ?

Think she means there's no stigma attached to breast feeding there. It's just the norm and expected. Baby wearing is done without thought as well, natural parenting at it's best!!
Wonder if they did have the option financial wise and cleanliness wise if they would still breast feed..?

 

[jessie_m]

I guess each to their own, but if I saw a woman bf'ing her 4 year old I would think it rather odd. I wouldn't say anything tho, that's her business!

I'm actually more surprised at the women who BF but feel they have to hide in their car or a bathroom! Why do you feel you have to do that? Because people stare? Because you would be "whipping them out in public" as someone put it

I think that's a shame, I really do! I would have loved to have able to BF my LO for more than the 5 measly days I managed. I would be proud to BF him in public and wouldn't give a toss what anyone thought!

I have breast fed in a doctors office (in the exam room, not the waiting room), and in the back of my moms car when we had to take a road trip with LO, but thats about the extent of my NIP.

I don't feel comfortable nursing in public for a few reasons. For one, I just don't have it down yet. She latches fine, but she doesn't always stay on and she'll get fussy and wriggle around, and I don't know how to be subtle about it. I'm afraid everyone would get an eyefull. Another reason is that there are just too many wierdos out there. As much as we hate it, the breast has become a sexual thing. I personally think that the breast as food, and the breast as a sexual thing are two seperate relationships, but I don't know that other people think that and I don't really want someone to see me breast feeding my child and then I can't get the thought out of my head that they're thinking something gross and perverted. Just a personal fear of mine. It is sad though because I do feel like I'm confined to my home. I wish I was brave enough, but I'm just not. Where I'm from I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've ever seen a woman nurse in public in my life. Yes, it's sad, and yes, I'm pathetic for letting it affect me to the point where I have stigmatized it myself, but I really can't help it.

 

[aliss]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

can you enlighten me ?

That there is no cultural shame in extended BF or NIP.

 

[special_kala]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

can you enlighten me ?

Think she means there's no stigma attached to breast feeding there. It's just the norm and expected. Baby wearing is done without thought as well, natural parenting at it's best!!
Wonder if they did have the option financial wise and cleanliness wise if they would still breast feed..?

Well i have the financial/cleanliness option and BF so dont know why it would be different there.

BF is probably much more ingrained in society over there then here, i imagine it took a long time of crap being thrown around about BF/FF and bad advice for us to get in the sorry state we have in regard yo BF rates

 

[bellablue]

Im not speaking for any one but myself i don't think i ever would breast feed till age 4 and i breast feed now i thinki ts a bit old but to each there own

i have my reasons but there not important enuff to share!

But the lady shoUld of minded her dam business no one has morals any more

 

[milf2be]

god im so jealous, i only got to express for 6 weeks until my milk dried up.
i only got LO to latch on once (and that took a good hour) the night he was born because i have flat nipples and even that made me bleed really bad

 

[tristansmum]

i'm not personally comfortable with breastfeeding at that age but everyone is entitled to do as they see is best for their child. the woman should not have said anything but to be honest i wuld be surprised that she doesn't get more negative comments. if a mother of a newborn can't breastfeed in public with out people staring or saying things then a women BF a 4 year old has no chance.

 

[tina3747]

I personally believe women in the west could learn a thing or 10 from the way women in Mongolia or Nigeria feed their children..........

can you enlighten me ?

Think she means there's no stigma attached to breast feeding there. It's just the norm and expected. Baby wearing is done without thought as well, natural parenting at it's best!!
Wonder if they did have the option financial wise and cleanliness wise if they would still breast feed..?

Well i have the financial/cleanliness option and BF so dont know why it would be different there.


BF is probably much more ingrained in society over there then here, i imagine it took a long time of crap being thrown around about BF/FF and bad advice




for us to get in the sorry state we have in regard yo BF rates

Whwt i mean is,i chose to bf then switched at 6 weeks.you chose to bf...we both have options.was wondering if they had an option would bf rates be so high or exactly the same as ours?
the nestle catastrophe oviously can hilight what i mean. they must have chosen to give them formula in the first place? do you get what i mean?
respect to anyone who gets past that 6 weeks... !

 

[Blah11]

Just the same i'm sure as its just what they do in that culture

 

[Mooshie]

I guess each to their own, but if I saw a woman bf'ing her 4 year old I would think it rather odd. I wouldn't say anything tho, that's her business!*

I'm actually more surprised at the women who BF but feel they have to hide in their car or a bathroom! Why do you feel you have to do that? Because people stare? Because you would be "whipping them out in public" as someone put it

I think that's a shame, I really do! I would have loved to have able to BF my LO for more than the 5 measly days I managed. I would be proud to BF him in public and wouldn't give a toss what anyone thought!

I have breast fed in a doctors office (in the exam room, not the waiting room), and in the back of my moms car when we had to take a road trip with LO, but thats about the extent of my NIP.*

I don't feel comfortable nursing in public for a few reasons. For one, I just don't have it down yet. She latches fine, but she doesn't always stay on and she'll get fussy and wriggle around, and I don't know how to be subtle about it. I'm afraid everyone would get an eyefull. Another reason is that there are just too many wierdos out there. As much as we hate it, the breast has become a sexual thing. I personally think that the breast as food, and the breast as a sexual thing are two seperate relationships, but I don't know that other people think that and I don't really want someone to see me breast feeding my child and then I can't get the thought out of my head that they're thinking something gross and perverted. Just a personal fear of mine. It is sad though because I do feel like I'm confined to my home. I wish I was brave enough, but I'm just not. Where I'm from I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've ever seen a woman nurse in public in my life. Yes, it's sad, and yes, I'm pathetic for letting it affect me to the point where I have stigmatized it myself, but I really can't help it.

Oh god no, I think you misunderstood what I meant. I don't think you're sad or pathetic, far from it! I think it's an awful sign of the times when a nursing mother cannot breastfeed her baby in public *and is forced into a bathroom or the backseat of her car to do so.*

Maybe i'm naive and thought it would be easy. Like I say I was never able to BF my son for more than 5 days (many reasons for it. I had an emergency section, he was in ICU). I so wish I could have, it's the one thing I would do over if I could.

I honestly didn't realise women felt like that. I'm so sorry if I offended you or upset you, that wasn't my intention.*

 

[lisaf]

I have breast fed in a doctors office (in the exam room, not the waiting room), and in the back of my moms car when we had to take a road trip with LO, but thats about the extent of my NIP.

I don't feel comfortable nursing in public for a few reasons. For one, I just don't have it down yet. She latches fine, but she doesn't always stay on and she'll get fussy and wriggle around, and I don't know how to be subtle about it. I'm afraid everyone would get an eyefull. Another reason is that there are just too many wierdos out there. As much as we hate it, the breast has become a sexual thing. I personally think that the breast as food, and the breast as a sexual thing are two seperate relationships, but I don't know that other people think that and I don't really want someone to see me breast feeding my child and then I can't get the thought out of my head that they're thinking something gross and perverted. Just a personal fear of mine. It is sad though because I do feel like I'm confined to my home. I wish I was brave enough, but I'm just not. Where I'm from I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've ever seen a woman nurse in public in my life. Yes, it's sad, and yes, I'm pathetic for letting it affect me to the point where I have stigmatized it myself, but I really can't help it.

I had trouble getting over it at first. I'm still not totally elegant about NIP and don't do it very often, but don't avoid doing it either. What helped a LOT was going to gatherings like mothers groups or lacation support groups... seeing other women do it, made me more comfortable doing it in front of them, and it gave me practice on how to best do it while out in public while still being rather private ifkwim. Those nursing covers help a lot, I'm not good at just exposing enough for him to latch on, I usually have to pull out the whole breast to manage, lol. Also, wearing a nursing tank with a shirt over it is the most discrete way since your belly stays covered when you lift the top shirt off.
Not trying to push you, but it will always feel awkward unless you practice it and its just so freeing to be able to do it whenever you need to without having to think or plan. It gets easier as they get older too.
IF you could practice and get used to doing it, by being out in public you could give someone else the courage to do it.

Again, not trying to push you, just trying to offer motivation

 

[Blah11]

NIP is something you just have to do and get over the initial first public feed. After that its fine.