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[Khadijah-x]

Not looking for a debate.

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[Mrs HM]

Sorry but I cannot understand this at all. I just can't grasp how you can refuse to offer your baby protection from a deadly disease. Fair enough to endanger your own life by refusing vaccines, but to ignore factual, medically based evidence that vaccines protect against FATAL diseases such as whooping cough - nuts. Now, find me an immunologist who advises against vaccines and I'd be prepared to review my position.

I'd usually try not to judge others' decisions but its decisions like this, based on ignorance, that are causing previously dormant diseases to spread and kill again. So I have to say refusing vaccines for your child is stupid and selfish. Do all the research you want, you won't find anything that refutes the safety or benefits of the vaccines given to children in the first world.

 

[BabyMamma93]

i agree with PP, i would much rather have my baby vaccinated than watch them become ill, or even worse, due to a disease i could have prevented by having a simple vaccination.
There is a risk that they can become severely ill after a vaccine, but ill take the risk of a illness over a deadly disease any day. i just personally wouldnt put a life at risk, and most definatley not the life of the single most important thing in my life!!

 

[LovemyBubx]

I'm sorry but babies can die from whopping cough how many die from vaccinations?

 

[jodilee6]

Personally I see zero benefit in not getting the vaccines.

I've yet to read one piece of evidence with scientific backing that proves vaccines do more harm and good.

The number of preventable diseases are on the increase due to the lack of vaccination, where I live alone there has been a rise in measles, whooping cough and rubella all of which have the potential to be fatal to young children but yet are all preventable.

Myself and LO are fully up to date on our vaccines and do get the flu jab yearly (I pay for mine privately) not to benefit us but to benefit my mum. She has breathing difficulties and even a common cold over the winter can cause her to be hospitalised, why would I not do all I can to prevent someone I love ending up in hospital just seems alien to me.

If you feel passionate about it please make sure you are 100% sore of your research, if you do a thread search you will see that this has been discussed in length many times and will get heated. At the end of the day it's your personal choice but please don't be offended if people you meet don't agree with you.

 

[katestar53]

Why would you not?????? Surely it's a no brainier?

 

[staralfur]

If you want to do some real research then I'd recommend going to a local library and seeing if they have access to peer-reviewed journals. Or if you have any friends in university or in a career which gives them access to online medical journals, ask them to help you out.

Unfortunately I don't think you're going to get the answers you're looking for when you actually delve into research properly conducted and approved by actual scientists and people who have true experience in the field, but maybe you'll learn a little something anyway if you open your mind.

Good luck.

 

[Khadijah-x]

I agree with those who vaccinate. I also agree with those who don't. To call someone stupid and selfish because of not wanting to risk their child dying from a vaccine or having brain damage, is a little harsh. I can understand people have opinions but if I chose to vaccinate.. I wouldn't reply to a thread and comment on those who don't. Every parent has a right whether we give these to our children or not and it's everyone's personal opinion.

People chose not to vaccinate for many reasons, the risks of the vaccine (when they may never have caught the particular disease in their life), people still die of diseases they have apparently been vaccinated against, the discusting ingrident list including aborted fetal cells, cow serum, monkey kidneys, cell worms and the list goes on.

I'm not sure I could forgive myself if anything happened to my baby after I chose to give it a vaccine. And a vaccination does NOT fully protect a child from any disease.

Just as you want to protect your child from the risk of diseases, some parents also want to protect their children from the risk or vaccinations. Please don't slate others parenting.. we all just want what is best for our children.

 

[Larkspur]

People chose not to vaccinate for many reasons, the risks of the vaccine (when they may never have caught the particular disease in their life), people still die of diseases they have apparently been vaccinated against, the discusting ingrident list including aborted fetal cells, cow serum, monkey kidneys, cell worms and the list goes on.

If these are actual concerns you have, I would strongly encourage you to research comparative risk statistics. The risk of your child being harmed by a vaccine is much lower than the risk of your child being harmed by a disease being vaccinated against EVEN in places where the occurence of those diseases is rare (largely thanks to vaccination).

I would also encourage you to really get to grips with the scientific difference between cell culturing and cells "as an ingredient". I can assure you that vaccines certainly do not contain aborted fetal cells or "cell worms" (whatever that might be), or monkey kidneys.

You need to stop taking articles you read on naturalnews.com, drmercola.com and whale.to as being credible science, and read some genuine, peer-reviewed scientific literature.

 

[staralfur]

I'm not sure I could forgive myself if anything happened to my baby after I chose to give it a vaccine. And a vaccination does NOT fully protect a child from any disease.

But you could forgive yourself if something happened to your baby because you chose not to vaccinate?

Neither choice is a 100% guarantee but one choice does have science strongly on its side... and that's vaccinations. But considering the ingredient list you just hammered off I'm thinking your research up until this point has not been terribly scientific.