Thank you for replying. So four people is roughly £43, is that one course? Middle of the road where I am is about £18 for one course per head, so your looking at 116 us dollars for four people at one course each. That is almost twice as much. I suspect that is why people here are reluctant to tip because chuck on soft drinks (£10 each will get you three soft drinks (soda) or two j20's or what ever) and desert (about £6) each and your looking at £136 ($220 US dollars) for a two course meal with soft drinks for four. If we gave 20% tip then it is would make it £163 ($264) and that is without tipping any one but the waiter/ess. So I think people here feel like we pay the wages within what we already pay, does that makes sense?