Traditional weaning V BLW

[tasha41]

Yes fingers foods are part of TW but it's not the main focus, so for 80% of their eating their portions and speed of feeding etc is being controlled by someone else.

Sorry, IDK where that figure came from, but I think it is totally inaccurate. Maybe I'm the minority. I said I did a combination of TW & BLW, I fall somewhere in the middle, but apparently there's no such thing as a combination, so I guess I'm in the minority or you're wrong about the 80% figure.

My LO has been feeding herself 2 of her "meals" daily for months and her snacks. When she is done eating she typically starts to throw her food off the tray, she feeds it to me, or stops eating and starts playing (not with her food, but will bang on her tray etc). The only thing I feed to her is yogurt, and yogurt isn't an everyday food anymore (she used to have it everyday w/ breakfast). I also help her along the way with soup- I dunk bread into it and leave her to eat the bread that has soaked up some soup so she experiences those tastes/eats what the family is eating etc and it's easy enough for her to eat. I may give her a few spoonfuls, but she prefers it off the bread. Aside from that she eats very independently. Holds her own bottle, and has done so since 5 months. She started with a sippy cup at 4.5 months with water in it.

Not specifically directed at anyone but also-

I always fed Elyse on demand with her formula, as from birth she seemed detirmined to eat on her own terms- the quantity she wanted at the time intervals she wanted. Yeah, I wasted formula and I didn't really make life any easier for myself, but I don't think it's about that really. For meals it is still similar. She eats when she's hungry, she does reject food totally when she doesn't want any. We don't have 7am breakfast noon lunch 4pm dinner and fixed snacktimes either, we take each day as it comes. This being TW.

 

[purple_socks]

I hate the assumption that bottlefed babies are always on a scedule too. Just cause the arsehole down the road is a poor parent and does shit like that doesn't mean everyone does.

sorry i missed who said that? did that get said? i know there was talk of the old fashion breast feeding method being a rotuine thing...i bottle feed and don't do it to a time table. Infact everyone i know that bottle feeds still feeds n demand

And tasha i don't think anyone said there isn't and inbetween option of combining BLW and TW...i think the debate (well from my perspective) was fosucing on comparing the 'by the book'/ 'correct' versions of each method...purly bcoz 'doing TW correctly' was mentioned several times.

i hope no1 gets me wrong i am completely aware that TW can b done in a healthy way which probably doesn't lead to any issues but if ur really focusing on the basics of both methods, there r some cons to TW that BLW strive to overcome...simply that. don't think any should b offended by that.

anyway it does appear to b getting rather heated and scaring people off from the thread which is a shame so moving on...

i have aquestion for TWers:

I hope this doesn't spark another debate coz i'm just genuinly interested in the responses..

The origins of TW started when babies were weaned much earlier. Meaning they weren't able to feed themselves and needed to b spoon fed to bipass the tongue thrust reflex...hence the fact that there r stages to the TW process going from puree to more solid and introducing finger foods around 6 months when they r better equipt to deal with more 'solid' foods. so keeping that in mind...

now that we know its safer to wait til 6 months (when babies have more eating 'skills') y do so many parents (who do wait until that point) opt for TW? i just wondered y not go 4 BLW?...it does sound like a lot of mums do a combination of BLW and TW at this point so is it not easier to cut out the purees altogether? is it because people didn't know abt BLW? or because they believe starting with puree is still needed even tho they r at the age when finger foods can b introduce 4 TWers?

like i said don't start a debate...i'm not saying its better to do BLW or anything...i'm just interested in personal view points on it

 

[tasha41]

Can't comment on it from personal experience as we weaned at 4.5 mos, and did do foods she could feed herself from 6 mos, but I think that a lot of people truly do believe that babies NEED to start on purees and gradually work from there even if they start at 6 months. I believe the Canadian Pediatric Society (or association whatever it is) says delay weaning to as close to 6 months as possible but you should introduce finger foods by 8-9 months. When you see things like that I think people assume that "by" and "at" are the same things sometimes Not everyone, and certainly not anyone on BnB, but people who aren't online and hearing about alternative methods iykwim.

 

[Mum2b_Claire]

I hate the assumption that bottlefed babies are always on a scedule too. Just cause the arsehole down the road is a poor parent and does shit like that doesn't mean everyone does.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?? I have always bottle fed to a schedule because my baby has NO hunger cues so never 'asks' for a bottle, ever. So I have always offered milk at scheduled times. Is doing that 'shit', making me a 'poor parent' and an 'arsehole'??

That is actually the nastiest thing I have ever seen written on BnB.

 

[indy and lara]

I do have a concern however that BLW/ traditional is starting down the same road as ff/bf- that there is a bit of one upmanship going on. I just think that people should make their own choice about what is right for them. Puree feed, BLW or do a bit of both. Just do what is right for you and your baby. Babies haven't read the BLW book so they just might not do things exactly as they are written down. I don't like when I have have heard people saying (forums and at baby group) that others are not doing proper BLW because they sometimes use puress etc.Being a mother is so tough sometimes and it always fascinates me how woman can make each other feel worse rather than supported sometimes.

And as I said earlier, what is with the name calling and putting people down? Could have predicted that this is where this thread would end up.

Claire, I clearly am joining you then as I BF to a schedule- Emma has never shown hunger clues and I haver always fed to a schedule. So delighted to hear this morning that makes me a poor and lazy mother.

I can swear with the best of them but swearing on a forum at other posters as a way to attack them is not on. It is both rude and unacceptable.

People have different opinions. Not everyone will agree with you and you know what, they don't have to. That's life. Nothing wrong with putting your point of view but no-one has all the answers and part of a debate is listening to the other side, not just steam rolling them, or abusing them. You might not agree with what others say but it's their opinion. Suck it up. Just because you shout the loudest it doesn't make you right.

I am pleased that I am BLW. It is working for us and for Emma. If it wasn't I would be TW.

 

[JayleighAnn]

ummm ya sorry jayleighann some of your posts were really fucking insulting and are uneducated assumptions.

You dont know how I, or anyone on this board has "TW" their baby so you have no right to tell us were force feeding our babies to a timed scedule and bribing them.

I hate the assumption that bottlefed babies are always on a scedule too. Just cause the arsehole down the road is a poor parent and does shit like that doesn't mean everyone does.

Why swear at me???? I did not say any one force fed their children!!!!! But I did say about bribing, I found my self doing it last week "finish up your dinner ready for pudding"

And where the hell did bottle feeding come into this?? I made a point about how mothers where told to schedule bf, nothing about bottle feeding???

Tasha that figure was a estimate from what I've seen from my friends n family TWing. Obviously it's not gonna be right for everyone. I get that I didn't explain myself properly but I was really tired, probably not the best state to post in a debate lol

 

[polo_princess]

Ok ladies thats enough, if you cant debate in a polite and fair manner then perhaps its a good idea we dont debate the subject at all, which will be a shame for those with a genuine interest in the topic

Just stop for a second and actually read what you are going to post before you hit that submit button!!

It all goes in one end and out the other so they arent really that different

 

[Mum2b_Claire]

Fair enough Polo but what Ryder said way out of line IMO and I don't see why the rest of us should be prevented from debating because she can't be polite.

 

[polo_princess]

She may have crossed the line with the swearing and that will be dealt with accordingly but she isnt the only one who has made some remarks on this thread that can and have caused offence to some people

Just keep it respectful, thats all i ask, otherwise it'll go down the pan like all of the other threads

 

[nikkip75]

well sorry im gonna be lazy and say i havent read through the whole thread but can see its turned into a slanging match so dont really want to get involved, it always gets me why that has to happen!

so, ive had 3 kids now. Done TW with my first, 14 years is a long time ago we didnt have all these new spangled steamers, blenders and whatnot then! (well we did but i just didnt know what they where :rofl) so she was puree fed, my 4 year old was puree fed, i got so stressed out!

i spent hours shopping,peeling, steaming,blending,freezing,defrosting while my little girl sat and watched me, only for her to refuse EVERYTHING i ever made her. she would only ever eat the jars or tins. And imo they taste awful! spag bol tastes the same as fishermans pie, how does that happen

so im trying BLW this time, im feeling a lot more relaxed this time. I love sitting an watching her try new things and getting excited when i put the food infront of her and it all looks so colourful and appetising! oh and i can even pinch a bit of it myself cos its actually food that i eat!

im not slating anyone who TWs cos ive done it myself twice but just wanted to try something new this time

 

[purple_socks]

i spent hours shopping,peeling, steaming,blending,freezing,defrosting while my little girl sat and watched me, only for her to refuse EVERYTHING i ever made her. she would only ever eat the jars or tins. And imo they taste awful! spag bol tastes the same as fishermans pie, how does that happen

i know! i tried some jars as part of a baby shower game (had to match the jars with the lables)....they all tasted of carrot to me

 

[polo_princess]

And now i can take my "mod hat" off i'll give my input

BLW was never an option for us because of our early weaning circumstance, however i do find it a very interesting approach, both methods have pro's and con's and when it comes down to it they really arent that different, they both have the same goal in teaching your child to eat.

As long as a child has a good varied diet and are thriving then i have no real preference over which method people use

Boring i know, but im neither here no there on either method

 

[JayleighAnn]

And now i can take my "mod hat" off i'll give my input

BLW was never an option for us because of our early weaning circumstance, however i do find it a very interesting approach, both methods have pro's and con's and when it comes down to it they really arent that different, they both have the same goal in teaching your child to eat.

As long as a child has a good varied diet and are thriving then i have no real preference over which method people use

Boring i know, but im neither here no there on either method

I can't take you seriously with that avatar

 

[polo_princess]

Dont hate me because you aint me girlfriend

 

[JayleighAnn]

LMAO I can't help it, I'm so jealous

 

[polo_princess]

You know is pretty scary because that is probably what id look like if i gained 10 stone

 

[JayleighAnn]

LMAO I think it's a good look! EAT THE CAKE!!

 

[saraendepity]

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[JayleighAnn]

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I know! wouldn't you just tap that!

 

[saraendepity]

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