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[IsaacRalph]

Ooosweetpea & Marie b so lovely to hear from you both, its just the best news isn't it! So pleased for her!

Mama & elt looks Like your both still in the waiting game for you both. Really hoping you both ov soon, I need some tww buddies.

Han- hope the clinic went well hun, still so pleased for you!

Afm- not too much to report had my clinic app but as expected they can't offer me any miracle treatment as it doesn't appear anything is wrong. The good thing is though she said she'd give me & dh a fertility mot which includes sperm test, ultrasound & possibly tube patency test if needed. They don't offer IUI if you have a child on the nhs here anymore, which we may have benefited from if we fail to conceive. Should have scan in next few weeks but can't have cd 21 bloods until next month now as we're away camping! She was saying its normal couple to take up to a year, its just so long but not too far for me anymore. Hopefully soon we'll all get our bfps x

 

[MamaMac123]

Sweet pea it's good to see u too! Hope all is well with your little bump!

Isaac - so frustrating that they can't do too much yet...fx you follow Hann and get you all on your own!

 

[Hann12]

Hi

Thank you for all the lovely messages, they have been amazing to read and I feel so lucky to have 'met' you all - such an amazing support!

IssacRalph - i guess at least there is nothing wrong and hopefully this is the month for you. Its frustrating if you know that everythings working fine but it still takes time. Its good that they are going to cover every test for you though! I have a good feeling for this month!

Elt - the natural progesterone I got was wellsprings serenity - you can buy online and there are loads of success stories about it - however see my comments further below.

Mama - its frustrating that you lost the cross hairs, I really hope you get your opks soon and things start happening. You deserve some good luck!

Sweetpea and marie - great to hear from you both, really hope the pregnancies are progressing well!

AFM - well had the appointment with the fertility consultant. I have pretty mixed thoughts on it. He started by telling me that I do have PCOS because of the ultrasound and because of irregular cycles however my cycles are still every 35 days so I don't think they are irregular but anyway! Each ovary had follicles - one had 5 and one had 7, i read that PCOS ovaries have 40+ follicles so mine don't sound too bad. He then heard I was pregnant and said that I must have been lucky because PCOS means that I don't ovulate every month properly and thats the only reason my progesterone has been low and my LP short. He said that if my 21 day progesterone test was fine then its unlikely it would drop and I should be fine and cause no issues. However he couldn't definitely confirm that. I showed him the progesterone cream and he said that it was a coincidence that the month I used it was the month i got my BFP and that instead I just happened to release a good egg (for once!). However I am not so sure on this, I am sure I have been ovulating each month and its just a progesterone issue. He didn't even run all the PCOS tests for instance. He actually said that my bloods show I don't have it - confusing! Anyway, he then said that he would prescibe me with progesterone supplements for the next month just in case I did fall in it and I have a scan booked for 2 weeks on Sat to see my little peanut! I then have one booked for 2 weeks after that so I can see the heartbeat (hopefully).
Just praying and hoping it all goes well and to plan, and that peanut is a sticky one!

Oh and just another thing he said, he asked what my daily diet was like and he said that its too carb heavy, he said even salad was a carb? So I have to cut down massively. He also said that if I put on a lot of weight I'd probably get diabetes further down the line. Lucky I'm in no danger of that for now as my BMI is very low.
Anyway it was all a bit weird!

So my plan is to take these supplements, continue with the cream too, and relax and hope everything goes to plan! FX!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Well i'm not being funny han but I think this is where these private places make their money, on the likes of you & me! How odd he said you have pcos but nothing really to diagnose it?? How much treatment would they have suggested you have, clomid etc??It probably feels like a life time but it has only taken you 5mths to get your bfp & that was with a short LP! I think he's talking crap & all that about your diet, rubbish! Talking of diet my dh has got to give up caffeine as of today as part of our bfp mission. I haven't had any for about a year now & to be honest I don't miss it one bit! Not looking forward to his withdrawals over next few days

 

[Hann12]

Well i'm not being funny han but I think this is where these private places make their money, on the likes of you & me! How odd he said you have pcos but nothing really to diagnose it?? How much treatment would they have suggested you have, clomid etc??It probably feels like a life time but it has only taken you 5mths to get your bfp & that was with a short LP! I think he's talking crap & all that about your diet, rubbish! Talking of diet my dh has got to give up caffeine as of today as part of our bfp mission. I haven't had any for about a year now & to be honest I don't miss it one bit! Not looking forward to his withdrawals over next few days

I think I'd agree - he started off by saying it would be almost a miracle if I managed to ovulate on my own with an egg of good enough quality to implant, then later he said that loads of women have PCOS and don't know it because they still ovulate! I am sure I have been, its just been the progesterone issue. I will concentrate more on my diet if I can though (sickness depending!) and take these supplements.

Its good thats your DH is giving up caffeine! He is really good to make a real effort, a lot of men wouldn't you know! I was lucky as neither of us really drink caffeine in any form. DH does have binge drinking nights out but apart from that he's very healthy.

Had a bit more browny cm, not a lot and more cramping. Hoping its just the implantation process. I seem to recall a lot of cramping in the first couple of weeks with my DD so hoping its all fine!

 

[MamaMac123]

Hmm sounds odd about the pcos diagnosis. Have you read about it at all? Do you have any symptoms besides the cysts in your ovaries? Not sure how many cysts I have. Think my report just said multiple cysts in each ovary but I have loads of other symptoms too. One thing I will mention is pcos women can have a higher risk of miscarriage. Not fun news but just something to be aware of. I've heard of a lot of women with pcos taking Metformin through first trimester as it supposedly helps lower that risk. Hopefully not an issue for u and I'd say see a second opinion on the pcos stuff. That doc sounds like he's not really sure what he's talking about.

 

[elt1013]

Hi

Thank you for all the lovely messages, they have been amazing to read and I feel so lucky to have 'met' you all - such an amazing support!

IssacRalph - i guess at least there is nothing wrong and hopefully this is the month for you. Its frustrating if you know that everythings working fine but it still takes time. Its good that they are going to cover every test for you though! I have a good feeling for this month!

Elt - the natural progesterone I got was wellsprings serenity - you can buy online and there are loads of success stories about it - however see my comments further below.

Mama - its frustrating that you lost the cross hairs, I really hope you get your opks soon and things start happening. You deserve some good luck!

Sweetpea and marie - great to hear from you both, really hope the pregnancies are progressing well!

AFM - well had the appointment with the fertility consultant. I have pretty mixed thoughts on it. He started by telling me that I do have PCOS because of the ultrasound and because of irregular cycles however my cycles are still every 35 days so I don't think they are irregular but anyway! Each ovary had follicles - one had 5 and one had 7, i read that PCOS ovaries have 40+ follicles so mine don't sound too bad. He then heard I was pregnant and said that I must have been lucky because PCOS means that I don't ovulate every month properly and thats the only reason my progesterone has been low and my LP short. He said that if my 21 day progesterone test was fine then its unlikely it would drop and I should be fine and cause no issues. However he couldn't definitely confirm that. I showed him the progesterone cream and he said that it was a coincidence that the month I used it was the month i got my BFP and that instead I just happened to release a good egg (for once!). However I am not so sure on this, I am sure I have been ovulating each month and its just a progesterone issue. He didn't even run all the PCOS tests for instance. He actually said that my bloods show I don't have it - confusing! Anyway, he then said that he would prescibe me with progesterone supplements for the next month just in case I did fall in it and I have a scan booked for 2 weeks on Sat to see my little peanut! I then have one booked for 2 weeks after that so I can see the heartbeat (hopefully).
Just praying and hoping it all goes well and to plan, and that peanut is a sticky one!

Oh and just another thing he said, he asked what my daily diet was like and he said that its too carb heavy, he said even salad was a carb? So I have to cut down massively. He also said that if I put on a lot of weight I'd probably get diabetes further down the line. Lucky I'm in no danger of that for now as my BMI is very low.
Anyway it was all a bit weird!

So my plan is to take these supplements, continue with the cream too, and relax and hope everything goes to plan! FX!

I don't know about this doctor? Seems a little weird to me also...and everything I have read about PCOS would say that you do not have it! I am no doctor but common sense is common sense! There is a very good chance the prog. cream helped and maybe the B vits too. I have heard of people getting their BFPs in the first couple months using prog cream and/or B vits. If I don't get my BFP soon, I will def be giving it a try! It couldn't hurt, right? Your experience really gives me alot of hope because we seem to have the same issue and you got your BFP!

Mama- looks like it's still you and I waiting for that special BFP eggy! My opks still stark white but (tmi) a ton of watery and ewcm over the last several days, so I know it's coming. I'm just hoping that my LP stays atleast the 11 days it was last cycle.

Isaac- I think you are next...like the others said, hopefully this is just the start of a string of BFPs for all of us!

Sweetpea and marie- You ladies better keep stalking, fx we will all be joining you soon! And take care of yourselves and those LOs

Talk to you all in the morning

 

[gardenofedens]

Hi ladies! May I join you?

I'm 28 and have a baby girl who will be five weeks old tomorrow. It took nine cycles of charting and well timed BDing to conceive her so my DH and I have decided not to use birth control going forward. We're really looking forward to adding to our family though we know it likely won't even have a chance to happen until she's at least six months old since I'm exclusively breastfeeding. In the meantime, we're just BDing when it feels right and hoping for a less stressful journey this time around. In a perfect world, we'd love to welcome twin boys to our family in early 2014.

 

[elt1013]

Hi ladies! May I join you?

I'm 28 and have a baby girl who will be five weeks old tomorrow. It took nine cycles of charting and well timed BDing to conceive her so my DH and I have decided not to use birth control going forward. We're really looking forward to adding to our family though we know it likely won't even have a chance to happen until she's at least six months old since I'm exclusively breastfeeding. In the meantime, we're just BDing when it feels right and hoping for a less stressful journey this time around. In a perfect world, we'd love to welcome twin boys to our family in early 2014.

Of course you can join...welcome and btw, your daughter is adorable! Oh, how I miss having a baby!

 

[Hann12]

Welcome gardenofedens! One thing I would say is that I know of a lot of people that got their cycles back almost straight away after BF, I know of two people in my last group who got pregnant very quickly while BF - they have exactly one year between their little ones. And this was after really struggling the first time round and having m/c's - just wanted to make you aware that by doin this you may find you have another one before you are prepared for it!

Mama - I question the PCOS thing, I have no other symptoms! He said to get a PCOS diagnosis you need TWO of the following:
1) cysts on ovary - I have this
2) blood work to support I - nope
3) irregular cycles - I don't think I have this! A cycle every 30-35 days is not irregular in my view, yes it's not every 28 days but a lot of women aren't. I think irregular is how you have been, or people that get cycles every few months. He also said that these cycles finish with light menstrual flows that only last a couple of days OR super heavy flows that last longer than a week. Mine aren't like that either!
I believe that I have cystic ovaries but apparently so do 25% of women who ovulate normally and don't even know they have them. I honestly think he was trying to scare me a bit so that I go back for more expensive tests. When I pushed it a bit he did say that obviously I have managed to conceive quite quickly both times so perhaps things don't affect me or maybe I've been lucky. It was a bit scary of him but as my DH said I've now conceived twice and already brought my DD into the world so hopefully my body remembers just fine what to do, so I should now forget all this PCOS stuff and just relax and enjoy the pregnancy. So that's what I'll be trying to do!

I got my 'pregnant' on my digi this morning so I am very relieved to see that!

IssacRalph - I know you know a fair bit being a nurse - they scheduled a ultrasound for when I'm 6weeks 1 day, presumably to check position and heartbeat, I read that only 50% of women see a heartbeat at 6 weeks, do you think I should push the appointment back by a week, even though they did ask to see me then? I would hate to go and for them to say there's no heartbeat but then again I also read accounts of loads of people saying there was one! Tricky!

 

[MamaMac123]

Welcome Gardenofeden! You're little one is so adorable! I second what Hann said too...I know a lot of women who get pregnant with #2 very quickly after having #1 even when #1 took some time to concieve...just be prepared for close together little ones if you proceed w/o bc Some people are totally fine with that idea...others not so much. You sound like you guys would be up for the challenge though as you said you'd love twins next! My DH and I would love twins this go around as we're on our first together (and my step kids are a bit older)...but I think if I already had little ones running around, twins would be a bit much to handle.

Elt - Hope you get your positive OPK soon! (Me too! Though I'm guessing yours is more reliable than mine! LOL)

Hann - Yeah, I'm not buying your diagnosis....I mean, my friend who's having twins and has PCOS isn't the typical and doesn't have a lot of the symptoms, but she was definitely not ovulating at all on her own and had tons of cysts in both ovaries. You've been confirmed that you're ovulating on your own and you've already had one baby just fine and now are pregnant again! I think that doc is nuts...definitely don't take his word for it! If you think there may be any truth to it see another doc first.

Nothing knew here...just up late as I slept in this AM...lol Need to head to bed! Night all!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Welcome gardenofedens! One thing I would say is that I know of a lot of people that got their cycles back almost straight away after BF, I know of two people in my last group who got pregnant very quickly while BF - they have exactly one year between their little ones. And this was after really struggling the first time round and having m/c's - just wanted to make you aware that by doin this you may find you have another one before you are prepared for it!

Mama - I question the PCOS thing, I have no other symptoms! He said to get a PCOS diagnosis you need TWO of the following:
1) cysts on ovary - I have this
2) blood work to support I - nope
3) irregular cycles - I don't think I have this! A cycle every 30-35 days is not irregular in my view, yes it's not every 28 days but a lot of women aren't. I think irregular is how you have been, or people that get cycles every few months. He also said that these cycles finish with light menstrual flows that only last a couple of days OR super heavy flows that last longer than a week. Mine aren't like that either!
I believe that I have cystic ovaries but apparently so do 25% of women who ovulate normally and don't even know they have them. I honestly think he was trying to scare me a bit so that I go back for more expensive tests. When I pushed it a bit he did say that obviously I have managed to conceive quite quickly both times so perhaps things don't affect me or maybe I've been lucky. It was a bit scary of him but as my DH said I've now conceived twice and already brought my DD into the world so hopefully my body remembers just fine what to do, so I should now forget all this PCOS stuff and just relax and enjoy the pregnancy. So that's what I'll be trying to do!

I got my 'pregnant' on my digi this morning so I am very relieved to see that!

IssacRalph - I know you know a fair bit being a nurse - they scheduled a ultrasound for when I'm 6weeks 1 day, presumably to check position and heartbeat, I read that only 50% of women see a heartbeat at 6 weeks, do you think I should push the appointment back by a week, even though they did ask to see me then? I would hate to go and for them to say there's no heartbeat but then again I also read accounts of loads of people saying there was one! Tricky!

Well this is a tricky one han! When I saw Isaacs hb I was 6weeks+5 & Defo there & strong! They say the heartbeat start somewhere between 5-6 weeks but its still not unusual not to see the baby at all! I think if you want peace of mind & ultimately save money I'd book one for about 7 weeks. Hope your feeling ok !

I'm just getting packed up to go on hols, can't wait! Not sure if we have a good signal so I may or may not be able to contact you girls. Mama & elt I would like to see you both ov please, no pressure, ha ha!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hi ladies! May I join you?

I'm 28 and have a baby girl who will be five weeks old tomorrow. It took nine cycles of charting and well timed BDing to conceive her so my DH and I have decided not to use birth control going forward. We're really looking forward to adding to our family though we know it likely won't even have a chance to happen until she's at least six months old since I'm exclusively breastfeeding. In the meantime, we're just BDing when it feels right and hoping for a less stressful journey this time around. In a perfect world, we'd love to welcome twin boys to our family in early 2014.[/QUOTE

A big welcome hun, how exciting having a new joiner! Your lil daughter is just lovely. Hope to catch up with you more when i'm back from hols x

 

[IsaacRalph]

Welcome gardenofedens! One thing I would say is that I know of a lot of people that got their cycles back almost straight away after BF, I know of two people in my last group who got pregnant very quickly while BF - they have exactly one year between their little ones. And this was after really struggling the first time round and having m/c's - just wanted to make you aware that by doin this you may find you have another one before you are prepared for it!

Mama - I question the PCOS thing, I have no other symptoms! He said to get a PCOS diagnosis you need TWO of the following:
1) cysts on ovary - I have this
2) blood work to support I - nope
3) irregular cycles - I don't think I have this! A cycle every 30-35 days is not irregular in my view, yes it's not every 28 days but a lot of women aren't. I think irregular is how you have been, or people that get cycles every few months. He also said that these cycles finish with light menstrual flows that only last a couple of days OR super heavy flows that last longer than a week. Mine aren't like that either!
I believe that I have cystic ovaries but apparently so do 25% of women who ovulate normally and don't even know they have them. I honestly think he was trying to scare me a bit so that I go back for more expensive tests. When I pushed it a bit he did say that obviously I have managed to conceive quite quickly both times so perhaps things don't affect me or maybe I've been lucky. It was a bit scary of him but as my DH said I've now conceived twice and already brought my DD into the world so hopefully my body remembers just fine what to do, so I should now forget all this PCOS stuff and just relax and enjoy the pregnancy. So that's what I'll be trying to do!

I got my 'pregnant' on my digi this morning so I am very relieved to see that!

IssacRalph - I know you know a fair bit being a nurse - they scheduled a ultrasound for when I'm 6weeks 1 day, presumably to check position and heartbeat, I read that only 50% of women see a heartbeat at 6 weeks, do you think I should push the appointment back by a week, even though they did ask to see me then? I would hate to go and for them to say there's no heartbeat but then again I also read accounts of loads of people saying there was one! Tricky!

Well this is a tricky one han! When I saw Isaacs hb I was 6weeks+5 & Defo there & strong! They say the heartbeat start somewhere between 5-6 weeks but its still not unusual not to see the baby at all! I think if you want peace of mind & ultimately save money I'd book one for about 7 weeks. Hope your feeling ok !

I'm just getting packed up to go on hols, can't wait! Not sure if we have a good signal so I may or may not be able to contact you girls. Mama & elt I would like to see you both ov please, no pressure, ha ha!

P.s han that should to save money & ultimately peace of mind!

 

[Hann12]

Thanks IssacRalph! If we go at 7 weeks my DH needs to get time off works I'll speak to him and see if he can, otherwise guess we have to chance it at 6 weeks because I don't want to go alone just in case it's bad news!

I hope you have a great holiday - your 2ww is going to zoom by! Are you back in a week? I go on holiday a week on Friday but we have free wifi so I'll be able to check in easily. So looking forward to a break too, haven't been on holiday for almost a year! Will be nice to lie in the sun and to watch my DD play in the swimming pool!

 

[Hann12]

Ps your chart has started very nicely in your 2ww, not too dissimilar from how mine was!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Ps your chart has started very nicely in your 2ww, not too dissimilar from how mine was!

Yeah han we're back on sunday just camping down cornwall but the weather looks fab so can't wait! Where you going somewhere hot?? It"ll just come at the right time for you just hope your ok with sickness. Yeah i'm still very much a pessimist & don't think i'm lucky enough to follow you with a bfp, that would be too much a coincidence wouldn't it? That's how I think, wish I didn't but i do! Nothing more I'd love at the moment but I still Feel very pleased I have my wonderful ds & if & that's a big IF we could never have any more I would be happy still!

 

[Hann12]

Ps your chart has started very nicely in your 2ww, not too dissimilar from how mine was!

Yeah han we're back on sunday just camping down cornwall but the weather looks fab so can't wait! Where you going somewhere hot?? It"ll just come at the right time for you just hope your ok with sickness. Yeah i'm still very much a pessimist & don't think i'm lucky enough to follow you with a bfp, that would be too much a coincidence wouldn't it? That's how I think, wish I didn't but i do! Nothing more I'd love at the moment but I still Feel very pleased I have my wonderful ds & if & that's a big IF we could never have any more I would be happy still!

Well I thought the same thing this month because my bump buddie from last time, Mel, got her BFP but I did manage to get mine too - we have 5 weeks between us. It would be only a week or so between you and me if you got it this cycle so I am really hoping! No reason why not especially as you know thing thing is in working order! I know what you mean though because I felt like you did this time last week, feels like its never going to happen! It is though!
Just have a great holiday and when you get back you'll be 9dpo!

 

[gardenofedens]

Thanks for the warm welcome ladies! DH and I are definitely aware that it is possible to get pregnant sooner and we both think that would be fantastic. Ive just become a SAHM with Abigail so even though I'll have my hands full with another little one or two, i'd love it!!

Anyway it's 3am here, just up nursing so better get back to bed before I have to get up again!

 

[elt1013]

Good morning everyone...lots of you seem to be on vacation or going on vacation soon, so have a wonderful time. Nothing much to report for me today besides a temp rise but still not above my other pre o temps, so still waiting...