TTC#2 and SO EXCITED! join me

[IsaacRalph]

Hey girls i'm finally unpacked & at home, had a fab holiday, gorgeous weather! I've never seen ds smile so much he loves the outdoors, we all do!
So where to start???

Elt- re those pms symptoms, yes I think I remember having some, mainly headaches along with a super light AF! Hows the bleeding going now?? Sorry you've had a month out hun it really sucks but then our bodies can be very unpredictable & sometimes even everyday stresses can affect your cycle! Hoping next month you get lucky!

Mama- hey girl those temps look promising, do you Feel any different any pms symptoms? Did you do plenty of bding on & around the day ff has predicted ov?? Fx'd things are getting better for you

Banana- not long to go then you can get your poas fix, i'm like han & even when preggers can't resist, ha ha!

Han- hows it all going you pregnant person?? Sickness starting already? I always find morning sickness so reassuring especially after my mmc! I used to smile whilst vomming, yes i'm completly mad! Try not to worry yourself about miscarrying I know its what us women do but try & enjoy this special time, ehat will be will be & all that!

Afm- so relaxed after hols & not given ttc much thought although it has been lurking in the depth of my brain. Pms symptoms are pretty mild this month, was having backache & AF cramps but now they have gone for now at least! Do not Feel pregnant at all been tired but that's all the fresh air I've been getting! Bit of creamy cm which is also normal for me! Don't Feel like I should test anytime soon as I will just carry on dreaming I get bfp before I get AF or a bfn!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Having a little catch up & stalk around & just found out runnergrl has lost her baby! this has deeply saddened me, my thoughts are with her & her family!

 

[elt1013]

Having a little catch up & stalk around & just found out runnergrl has lost her baby! this has deeply saddened me, my thoughts are with her & her family!

Aww...that is terribly sad. My thoughts are also with her and her family. Hopefully in her own time, when she's ready, she will come back here and join us.

 

[Hann12]

That is really sad, so much out there

 

[MamaMac123]

Having a little catch up & stalk around & just found out runnergrl has lost her baby! this has deeply saddened me, my thoughts are with her & her family!

this is so sad. I've heard of so many mc lately and it just breaks my heart

 

[elt1013]

I just started a new cycle on FF (for when the spotting started 3 days ago) since most people and info online said to do so. I had some spotting earlier which has stopped for now, so basically that may have been all I will have for af. If I happen to start a full on af soon, I will change it back, but from what I read, I may not get a full on af for awile. Like Isaac said, it is like skipping a cycle entirely sometimes. This one may be much more unpredictable though with ovulation being sooner than normal, from what I have heard. Hopefully I will be back to normal soon.

Glad to have you back Isaac...and glad you had a good time.

 

[MamaMac123]

Isaac - so good to have u back with us! Glad your holidays were lovely and relaxing!

Afm - I'm actually started to get excited over here! I talked to a friend of mine today who has pcos and who used a fertility specialist for 3 of her 4 children. I showed her my chart and she thinks it looks like I have ovulated but she questioned if I should have discarded my really low temp. I told her my reason for doing so (camping, bad sleep, etc) and she told me that I should count it because if that was the caseit would be higher than it should be not lower. So I went back and undisregarded it and ff changed my ov date to that one. We think that big drop was my dip before ovulating and now my chart looks pretty spot on....including a slit dip today....maybe implantation dip???? Not sure...when does that happen? If we're right then today is 6 dpo...is that about the right time for implantation? Also, the day I supposedly ovulated I didn't OPK...it was about 4-5 days there I didn't as I had no tests. When I started opking again I kept getting visible lines but as the days have gone its gotten fainter and fainter....so maybe that indicates I missed it and the LH has slowly decreased the past few days since ov? Can that happen? Anyway...the point is I'm excited FINALLY it appears my body may be working for me!!! So I'm planning to test Sat if I can stand to wait that long...DH and I are doing an anniversary hotel thing this coming weekend...wouldn't it be an awesome anniversary gift to get a to give him! My one spot of gloom is that we didn't bd that day We did bd the day before in AM and the day after in PM. Do you guys think that's close enough? Do I still have a decent chance or is it a long shot because of timing? I hope we're not out due to missing that day. But if we are I'll still just be so thrilled to have ov'd and to have a good idea of what to expect next cycle and when to expect it! Hooray!

One question....the 21 day bloods....how many days past ov is that? I sort of want to see if I can have that done to confirm ov since I didnt do OPK. I just don't want to think I've ov if I haven't. Would be nice to have confirmation. Not even sure if I can get it but hoping I can. If I call my doc what do I ask for??? I've never had a doc mention it. Only ever heard it here from u guys.

to you all!!!!

 

[MamaMac123]

I just started a new cycle on FF (for when the spotting started 3 days ago) since most people and info online said to do so. I had some spotting earlier which has stopped for now, so basically that may have been all I will have for af. If I happen to start a full on af soon, I will change it back, but from what I read, I may not get a full on af for awile. Like Isaac said, it is like skipping a cycle entirely sometimes. This one may be much more unpredictable though with ovulation being sooner than normal, from what I have heard. Hopefully I will be back to normal soon.

Glad to have you back Isaac...and glad you had a good time.

good stuff!!! A fresh cycle can help lift your spirits too. Fx that this cycle is much more productive for you!!!

 

[gardenofedens]

Isaac - so good to have u back with us! Glad your holidays were lovely and relaxing!

Afm - I'm actually started to get excited over here! I talked to a friend of mine today who has pcos and who used a fertility specialist for 3 of her 4 children. I showed her my chart and she thinks it looks like I have ovulated but she questioned if I should have discarded my really low temp. I told her my reason for doing so (camping, bad sleep, etc) and she told me that I should count it because if that was the caseit would be higher than it should be not lower. So I went back and undisregarded it and ff changed my ov date to that one. We think that big drop was my dip before ovulating and now my chart looks pretty spot on....including a slit dip today....maybe implantation dip???? Not sure...when does that happen? If we're right then today is 6 dpo...is that about the right time for implantation? Also, the day I supposedly ovulated I didn't OPK...it was about 4-5 days there I didn't as I had no tests. When I started opking again I kept getting visible lines but as the days have gone its gotten fainter and fainter....so maybe that indicates I missed it and the LH has slowly decreased the past few days since ov? Can that happen? Anyway...the point is I'm excited FINALLY it appears my body may be working for me!!! So I'm planning to test Sat if I can stand to wait that long...DH and I are doing an anniversary hotel thing this coming weekend...wouldn't it be an awesome anniversary gift to get a to give him! My one spot of gloom is that we didn't bd that day We did bd the day before in AM and the day after in PM. Do you guys think that's close enough? Do I still have a decent chance or is it a long shot because of timing? I hope we're not out due to missing that day. But if we are I'll still just be so thrilled to have ov'd and to have a good idea of what to expect next cycle and when to expect it! Hooray!

One question....the 21 day bloods....how many days past ov is that? I sort of want to see if I can have that done to confirm ov since I didnt do OPK. I just don't want to think I've ov if I haven't. Would be nice to have confirmation. Not even sure if I can get it but hoping I can. If I call my doc what do I ask for??? I've never had a doc mention it. Only ever heard it here from u guys.

to you all!!!!

It's great you have ovulated!! don't worry about bding that day. The day before and two days before are best from everything I've read so you should be all good! if you are 6dpo today, you should get the ovulation confirmation bloods tomorrow as they are done at 7dpo. Fingers crossed for you!

 

[gardenofedens]

Oh and it's a progesterone test!

 

[IsaacRalph]

I just started a new cycle on FF (for when the spotting started 3 days ago) since most people and info online said to do so. I had some spotting earlier which has stopped for now, so basically that may have been all I will have for af. If I happen to start a full on af soon, I will change it back, but from what I read, I may not get a full on af for awile. Like Isaac said, it is like skipping a cycle entirely sometimes. This one may be much more unpredictable though with ovulation being sooner than normal, from what I have heard. Hopefully I will be back to normal soon.

Glad to have you back Isaac...and glad you had a good time.

Yeah that's better, but like you said you may have earlier ovulation, I don't think I did but if I were you I'd go poas crazy this month! Good luck this cycle elt x

 

[IsaacRalph]

Isaac - so good to have u back with us! Glad your holidays were lovely and relaxing!

Afm - I'm actually started to get excited over here! I talked to a friend of mine today who has pcos and who used a fertility specialist for 3 of her 4 children. I showed her my chart and she thinks it looks like I have ovulated but she questioned if I should have discarded my really low temp. I told her my reason for doing so (camping, bad sleep, etc) and she told me that I should count it because if that was the caseit would be higher than it should be not lower. So I went back and undisregarded it and ff changed my ov date to that one. We think that big drop was my dip before ovulating and now my chart looks pretty spot on....including a slit dip today....maybe implantation dip???? Not sure...when does that happen? If we're right then today is 6 dpo...is that about the right time for implantation? Also, the day I supposedly ovulated I didn't OPK...it was about 4-5 days there I didn't as I had no tests. When I started opking again I kept getting visible lines but as the days have gone its gotten fainter and fainter....so maybe that indicates I missed it and the LH has slowly decreased the past few days since ov? Can that happen? Anyway...the point is I'm excited FINALLY it appears my body may be working for me!!! So I'm planning to test Sat if I can stand to wait that long...DH and I are doing an anniversary hotel thing this coming weekend...wouldn't it be an awesome anniversary gift to get a to give him! My one spot of gloom is that we didn't bd that day We did bd the day before in AM and the day after in PM. Do you guys think that's close enough? Do I still have a decent chance or is it a long shot because of timing? I hope we're not out due to missing that day. But if we are I'll still just be so thrilled to have ov'd and to have a good idea of what to expect next cycle and when to expect it! Hooray!

One question....the 21 day bloods....how many days past ov is that? I sort of want to see if I can have that done to confirm ov since I didnt do OPK. I just don't want to think I've ov if I haven't. Would be nice to have confirmation. Not even sure if I can get it but hoping I can. If I call my doc what do I ask for??? I've never had a doc mention it. Only ever heard it here from u guys.

to you all!!!!

Woo hoo mama this is excellent news so excited for you! as far as your ff chart goes I've had some that look like tours with a big dip & not been pregnant my ff chart with ds hardly any dip & ta da bfp so what i'm trying to say is yes its looking good that you ovulated but I never can tell from my charts if its a bfp chart ,but please please please be very excited your only few days behind me too! yeah day 21 bloods should be done at 7dpo assuming most women ovulate on cd14 but as you know when you think you ovulated do it 7 days from then!

 

[IsaacRalph]

So they were sat there staring at me & had to do it bfn on ic at 10dpo. Not looking too great for us this month, not feeling too bad little bit gutted but I know it will happen one day & i'm kinda not in any rush! More frustrating than anything, so what's that 8month ttc now?? Blah blah blah x

 

[MamaMac123]

Okay... Now after all that my temp plummeted!!! Now what??? Still says I ovulated but what do you guys think??? I'm so sad

 

[IsaacRalph]

Okay... Now after all that my temp plummeted!!! Now what??? Still says I ovulated but what do you guys think??? I'm so sad

Do you temp orally mama?? I do but sometimes have to take it few times & really dig it under tongue, today I had 2 different readings & charted the highest! Could be an implantation dip or always you can get a dip from 2nd estrogen surge! Try not to worry mama, remember your temps probably will be more erratic! I got bfn today so bit Miffed

 

[MamaMac123]

Isaac about your bfn but its still early hun!! Fx for u!!!

I took my temp 3 seperate times before I let myself get up. All within .1 degree of each other. Then after I'd been up and back to sleep another hour or so I took again before I had to get up for work and it had only gone up .2

I'm just scared now this means I haven't ovulated at all. Is it even possible for implantation dip or estrogen surge to be that extreme of a drop in temp? I'm kicking myself for finally embracing it yesterday and really getting excited...like I jinxed the whole thing. Stupid I know but naturally my temp plummets the morning after I finally accept that things are really working finally! Ugh DH and I always say a prayer together before I leave for work and today I made him say it as I felt to low. He prayed that I'd be comforted and at peace with my body and I just burst into tears and ended up sobbing halfway to work this morning. I'm just so tired of nothing working right inside me. I feel like my body is failing us.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Isaac about your bfn but its still early hun!! Fx for u!!!

I took my temp 3 seperate times before I let myself get up. All within .1 degree of each other. Then after I'd been up and back to sleep another hour or so I took again before I had to get up for work and it had only gone up .2

I'm just scared now this means I haven't ovulated at all. Is it even possible for implantation dip or estrogen surge to be that extreme of a drop in temp? I'm kicking myself for finally embracing it yesterday and really getting excited...like I jinxed the whole thing. Stupid I know but naturally my temp plummets the morning after I finally accept that things are really working finally! Ugh DH and I always say a prayer together before I leave for work and today I made him say it as I felt to low. He prayed that I'd be comforted and at peace with my body and I just burst into tears and ended up sobbing halfway to work this morning. I'm just so tired of nothing working right inside me. I feel like my body is failing us.

Hun please try not to be sad yeah sure I've seen dips way below coverline before I suppose the only way to be sure is to get those bloods done, is that possible today?? I will also mention you guys in my prayers tonight! Just remember there's always hope & especially for you, you may end up needing clomid & triggers but you will get there in the end! Hopefully you have ovulated on your own though! After ttc my first for so long with a mmc inbetween I felt I would never become a mummy but the birth of him soon was upon us! Don't ever let it grind you down mama x

 

[Hann12]

IssaacRalph - It is still early at 10dpo to get a bfp - I didn't get mine with my DD until 12dpo so there is still plenty of hope. FX!

Mama - I feel so bad for you, I just caught up with yesterdays post then saw todays. Its either one of two things, you have ovulated but your temps are up and down due to the PCOS - in which case if you go to the Dr and get a 21 day progesterone test today/tomorrow you will know for sure if you ovulated OR you haven't ovulated.
If I didn't know you and was just reviewing your chart I would say you haven't ovulated but because I know your background I think there is some hope that you have but the only way you will know is if AF arrives in a week or if you get the progesterone test.
Your temp range is very big, if you look at IsaacRalphs chart for example her temps both before and after ovulation range by 0.7 degrees fahrenheit - whereas yours range by a degree. If you therefore logically make you think you either must have ovulated or your temps are so variable that temping isn't going to work for you. I know that its not a terribly helpful comment to say that temping doesn't work for you but I didn't want you to be upset that your body isn't working because maybe it is but its just not reflecting it properly in the temps.
If it was me I would continue to temp and opk just in case, and get the progesterone test

Elt - good idea to start a new chart!

 

[MamaMac123]

Thanks girls I'm feeling better as the day goes on and as I've researched it more. I never realized the implantation dip can go down below the coverline like this and that it's actually not that uncommon. I did a search for charts with pcos, metformin and the dip and got a ton of results. Of those, a lot of them dropped below coverline for 1-2 days and oddly, of those that dropped dramatically like that, a lot of them ended up with a positive test! Obviously that cheered me up, but I'm now back to feeling cautious in my optimism. The next couple days will be telling. Hopefully my temp goes right back up. The other thing I read is that the temp drop should be around a week after ovulation so if I ovulated last Monday then this dip is spot on. Also, the erratic nature of my temps is very normal for pcos. So all in all feeling better about things for now.

I did call my doc office and asked about the blood test. The nurse didnt say for sure if I could have it done but she got me an apt with the doctor at 10 am tomorrow! That's so good..usually takes weeks to get in so maybe I can get the test done. Either way it will be good to touch base with the doc about how things are going on the met.

Feeling much better. Sorry for starting the day on such a downer...thank you girls for being here to listen.

How's everyone else today? Isaac...when do you plan to test again? Hann, hows the little bean? How are you feeling? Banana how are you? Hanging in during your wait to ovulate?

 

[Hann12]

Really hope you get the blood test Fx! I have also seen people drop below the cover line and get a BFP so hopefully it will happen!