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Banana your appointment sounds a bit like mine with the specialist. I know to them 6 months is nothing but to us every month is a life time! I guess at least they are doing the scan to see if they can see anything. I was also told that they could put me on clomid in a few months but I wasn't all that keen because apparently if you are ovulating on your own it can over stimulate the ovaries which is a bad thing. Not sure why lol!! I hope it just happens for you now, the month I had my scan I also got my BFP so who knows!
Runnergrl - are you taking the progesterone? Hope the betas go well!
IssacRalph - good luck for tomorrow - its a good date to get a BFP being the 12/12/12 - and its my 32nd birthday. Good times all round
mamamac - i think it was a good plan to change the clomid to CD 3-7. FX it works this time and you ovulate even sooner!
Runnergrl - are you taking the progesterone? Hope the betas go well!
IssacRalph - good luck for tomorrow - its a good date to get a BFP being the 12/12/12 - and its my 32nd birthday. Good times all round
mamamac - i think it was a good plan to change the clomid to CD 3-7. FX it works this time and you ovulate even sooner!
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Banana your appointment sounds a bit like mine with the specialist. I know to them 6 months is nothing but to us every month is a life time! I guess at least they are doing the scan to see if they can see anything. I was also told that they could put me on clomid in a few months but I wasn't all that keen because apparently if you are ovulating on your own it can over stimulate the ovaries which is a bad thing. Not sure why lol!! I hope it just happens for you now, the month I had my scan I also got my BFP so who knows!
Runnergrl - are you taking the progesterone? Hope the betas go well!
IssacRalph - good luck for tomorrow - its a good date to get a BFP being the 12/12/12 - and its my 32nd birthday. Good times all round
mamamac - i think it was a good plan to change the clomid to CD 3-7. FX it works this time and you ovulate even sooner!
Hey thanks han, feeling a bit fed up reall, feeling totally not pregnant, have my normal periody feeling with the boring normal headache! I wouldn't even bother having the bloods if I wasn't having my test on Thursday its just going to confirm a bfn! I'm getting so bored & fed up with it all I'm seriously thinking about going back on bcp for 6 months or so, so I can get ttc out of my head! If i'm lucky enough to have another baby I will not be putting myself through this again, no way its soul destroying! proper pms mood talking, tomorrow the world will be a better place but for now arghhhhh! catch up with everyone soon xx
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Happy birthday for tomorrow han xx
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Awww Issac - sorry to hear you like that. We all know how you feel and yes tomorrow the world will be a better place, its the auld catch 22 of ttc not only do you have to deal with not being pregnant but its when emotions are at an all time high with AF in the building. Some months just seem to get us worse then others. Chin up and hopefully you'll feel a little better about it tomorrow.
My sister gave me a book called bump & gring "the a-z survival guide for when you're trying to get pregnant and sick of being told to relax!" I've read the first chapter and its brillant really light hearted and so so easy to relate too!
Thanks Hann - yeah least I got my scan we'll I don't know when it is yet but hopefully soon. Yeah I know 6 months is nothing to them but like I said to her if I wanted to wait the year I would have went public so as I am paying a fortune for it does it matter if I am 1 month ttc or 6 or 10 months??? Its all money to them she agreed after I said that to her. Yeah I really don't think the clomid is necessary but suppose if I'm not preg in 3 months I'll be desperate and try anything!! I might try the progesterone cream this month or its prob too late this month is it I'm CD14 don't think I've ovd yet.....?????
My sister gave me a book called bump & gring "the a-z survival guide for when you're trying to get pregnant and sick of being told to relax!" I've read the first chapter and its brillant really light hearted and so so easy to relate too!
Thanks Hann - yeah least I got my scan we'll I don't know when it is yet but hopefully soon. Yeah I know 6 months is nothing to them but like I said to her if I wanted to wait the year I would have went public so as I am paying a fortune for it does it matter if I am 1 month ttc or 6 or 10 months??? Its all money to them she agreed after I said that to her. Yeah I really don't think the clomid is necessary but suppose if I'm not preg in 3 months I'll be desperate and try anything!! I might try the progesterone cream this month or its prob too late this month is it I'm CD14 don't think I've ovd yet.....?????
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banana- it is sad that it comes down to money for them when they are dealing with people's lives! And...I don't think I could count how many times I have been told that I am trying too hard and just need to relax. I feel like just because I am talking about ttc doesn't give just anyone the right to give me their opinions on it.
Isaac- I feel ya...I am thinking about just NTNP after this cycle and stopping all the charting and stuff. After 4 years of NTNP and about 8 or so months of ttc, I am just starting to think that it isn't meant to be and if it happens, it happens. I may just use up the opks I have and not buy anymore. Not sure yet though as I am still thinking about it.
runnergrl- how exciting...make sure you update us with the betas.
Mama- I agree with the others on the clomid. I don't know much about it, but it is worth a try and you can always adjust next cycle if you need to.
AFM- I got my pap and lab results back...all normal except my white blood cell count is a little high, so I have to have them done again on Friday. I am just glad that all the hormonal stuff came back normal and especially the pap since I have had a couple abnormal ones in the past (only when I was pregnant). And AF seems to be pretty much gone, so onto the wait for o!
So nice to have all you preggo ladies coming back and wishing all of us well. Glad everything is going well!
Isaac- I feel ya...I am thinking about just NTNP after this cycle and stopping all the charting and stuff. After 4 years of NTNP and about 8 or so months of ttc, I am just starting to think that it isn't meant to be and if it happens, it happens. I may just use up the opks I have and not buy anymore. Not sure yet though as I am still thinking about it.
runnergrl- how exciting...make sure you update us with the betas.
Mama- I agree with the others on the clomid. I don't know much about it, but it is worth a try and you can always adjust next cycle if you need to.
AFM- I got my pap and lab results back...all normal except my white blood cell count is a little high, so I have to have them done again on Friday. I am just glad that all the hormonal stuff came back normal and especially the pap since I have had a couple abnormal ones in the past (only when I was pregnant). And AF seems to be pretty much gone, so onto the wait for o!
So nice to have all you preggo ladies coming back and wishing all of us well. Glad everything is going well!
How is everyone today?
Hann - Hope you had a great birthday!!
Isaac - Don't give up. Your time will come as it will for all of us.
Banana - It drives me absolutely bonkers for someone to tell me to relax while TTC. ESP a doctor. I want to scream, "Look pal... My insurance company is paying you good money for me to come see you. DO NOT blow me off." We are going next week to a new OB/GYN for a second opinion. My husband and I are going to tell him that we want to be aggressive in finding out what's wrong with both of us. I am a little worried with what's going on with me due to all of my pain. My endo had never hurt me this bad. About 6 months or so ago we got 2 positive HPT's. they were faint, but even hubby could see them so they had to be there. The next day I take another... Only it's neg. Flo showed up 2 - 3 days later. I have had constant pain since then. The Ned month I ended up in the ER I was in so much pain. The U/S tech said there was fluid in my uterus, but thats all. My regular physician didn't ever follow up or anything and pretty much called me a liar. So banana, I know where you're coming from. I share your frustrations.
Hann - Hope you had a great birthday!!
Isaac - Don't give up. Your time will come as it will for all of us.
Banana - It drives me absolutely bonkers for someone to tell me to relax while TTC. ESP a doctor. I want to scream, "Look pal... My insurance company is paying you good money for me to come see you. DO NOT blow me off." We are going next week to a new OB/GYN for a second opinion. My husband and I are going to tell him that we want to be aggressive in finding out what's wrong with both of us. I am a little worried with what's going on with me due to all of my pain. My endo had never hurt me this bad. About 6 months or so ago we got 2 positive HPT's. they were faint, but even hubby could see them so they had to be there. The next day I take another... Only it's neg. Flo showed up 2 - 3 days later. I have had constant pain since then. The Ned month I ended up in the ER I was in so much pain. The U/S tech said there was fluid in my uterus, but thats all. My regular physician didn't ever follow up or anything and pretty much called me a liar. So banana, I know where you're coming from. I share your frustrations.
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Thanks for your lovely messages, I had a lovely birthday but very manic few days with Christmas stuff happening too.
Just caught up though!
Issacralph - I take it you got a negative and you had the procedure today. I hope it went well. I can imagine how frustrated you feel so don't blame you for wanting to take a break. Def don't think about it over Xmas - eat and drink what you want and enjoy your time with your family then think about it more in the new year with a fresh head. Thinking of you.
Runnergrl - that's great about your progesterone levels yay!! When is the due date?
Happycpl, elt, banana and mama - good luck catching the eggy this time but enjoy the Xmas festivities and have some bubbles too!
Just caught up though!
Issacralph - I take it you got a negative and you had the procedure today. I hope it went well. I can imagine how frustrated you feel so don't blame you for wanting to take a break. Def don't think about it over Xmas - eat and drink what you want and enjoy your time with your family then think about it more in the new year with a fresh head. Thinking of you.
Runnergrl - that's great about your progesterone levels yay!! When is the due date?
Happycpl, elt, banana and mama - good luck catching the eggy this time but enjoy the Xmas festivities and have some bubbles too!
to all the other ladies!!!
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Thats great news Runnergirls - delighted for you x
Glad you had a good birthday Hann
I couldn't be more frustrated right now if I tried
Started using OPKs again this month after AF arrived 3 days early last month and low and behold got my smiley face last night but of course DH had zero interest in bding and I mean zero - I amlost begged him. He had been up since 5am yesterday morning and didn't really sleep the night before so I semi understand. Cried myself to sleep (quietly he didn't hear me I'm not that sad!!). Opkd again this morning and smiley face was gone (no smiley face yesterday morning either) its the first time I've only ever got 1 smiley face I must have just missed it yesterday morning and got the end of it last night. We bd Wednesday night and I'll do everything in my power to do it tonight even tho he is up since 5am again today. Last month he was rearing to go previous month he gave out to me for updating him on the OPKs so much and previous month he said I should be telling him about the OPks. Like wtf!?!?!?! 
So I''m pretty much feeling 100% out already. I just can't believe it another month wasted, cried all the way into work this morning in the car too.
If my smiley was gone this morning do you think I have def Ov'd ?? The pack says it gives you 24-36hours from the smiley face??
Glad you had a good birthday Hann
I couldn't be more frustrated right now if I tried
Started using OPKs again this month after AF arrived 3 days early last month and low and behold got my smiley face last night but of course DH had zero interest in bding and I mean zero - I amlost begged him. He had been up since 5am yesterday morning and didn't really sleep the night before so I semi understand. Cried myself to sleep (quietly he didn't hear me I'm not that sad!!). Opkd again this morning and smiley face was gone (no smiley face yesterday morning either) its the first time I've only ever got 1 smiley face I must have just missed it yesterday morning and got the end of it last night. We bd Wednesday night and I'll do everything in my power to do it tonight even tho he is up since 5am again today. Last month he was rearing to go previous month he gave out to me for updating him on the OPKs so much and previous month he said I should be telling him about the OPks. Like wtf!?!?!?! So I''m pretty much feeling 100% out already. I just can't believe it another month wasted, cried all the way into work this morning in the car too.
If my smiley was gone this morning do you think I have def Ov'd ?? The pack says it gives you 24-36hours from the smiley face??
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Banana - firstly big 
secondly no I don't think you have necessarily missed it. If you DTD on Weds then thats brilliant, if you didn't do it yesterday when you had the smiley face but do today then I think thats fine. There is a good chance you won't ovulate until tonight or tomorrow morning even - its normally 24-48 hours after the smiley/positive. Do you take temps? I have a feeling not but thought I'd ask as you'd know for sure that way. Don't despair just get one in tonight and FX you will catch it. I'd say that there will be some up there from weds still anyway though.
Its horrible TTC when you don't have support. Men just don't get it like we do, they don't realise the information we have and feeling of both control (because we can tell when its going to happen) and lack of control we have (because we need them and the hopelessness that it doesn't just happen). Its such a hard thing to do that in theory should be so easy. Please don't get upset though, you aren't out. Good luck for tonight x
secondly no I don't think you have necessarily missed it. If you DTD on Weds then thats brilliant, if you didn't do it yesterday when you had the smiley face but do today then I think thats fine. There is a good chance you won't ovulate until tonight or tomorrow morning even - its normally 24-48 hours after the smiley/positive. Do you take temps? I have a feeling not but thought I'd ask as you'd know for sure that way. Don't despair just get one in tonight and FX you will catch it. I'd say that there will be some up there from weds still anyway though. Its horrible TTC when you don't have support. Men just don't get it like we do, they don't realise the information we have and feeling of both control (because we can tell when its going to happen) and lack of control we have (because we need them and the hopelessness that it doesn't just happen). Its such a hard thing to do that in theory should be so easy. Please don't get upset though, you aren't out. Good luck for tonight x
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Thanks Hann, I was praying someone would be online to tell me everything was going to be ok!!!
Was talking to DH this morning and I said "thanks" for last night. He said he was sorry but he wasn't fit to fart last night but that he "will give it to me!!!"
tonight. I told him its prob to late. I had really bad pain (usually do around ov) last night so I am afraid it could have happend during the night I even for the first time felt a weird flutter which I read months ago is the actual egg bursting out although on a tiny few women acutally feel it - I had forgotten about it until it happend last night.
Oh and the pain was on my left side for the first time in 5 months, I think I was extra upset cause I thought maybe the right side doesn't have good eggs thats why I haven't got pregnant so I was excited when I felt it all on the left. Yeah so hopefully bding will happen tonight.
Although if having sex like a rabbit this last 6 months hasn't worked I doubt these two long shots will work!
Looks like Aunt Flow will be joining us on Christmas Day or Stephens/Boxing Day
Was talking to DH this morning and I said "thanks" for last night. He said he was sorry but he wasn't fit to fart last night but that he "will give it to me!!!"
tonight. I told him its prob to late. I had really bad pain (usually do around ov) last night so I am afraid it could have happend during the night I even for the first time felt a weird flutter which I read months ago is the actual egg bursting out although on a tiny few women acutally feel it - I had forgotten about it until it happend last night. Oh and the pain was on my left side for the first time in 5 months, I think I was extra upset cause I thought maybe the right side doesn't have good eggs thats why I haven't got pregnant so I was excited when I felt it all on the left. Yeah so hopefully bding will happen tonight.
Although if having sex like a rabbit this last 6 months hasn't worked I doubt these two long shots will work!
Looks like Aunt Flow will be joining us on Christmas Day or Stephens/Boxing Day
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Hey everyone!
Hann - Happy be-lated birthday!!! Hope it was wonderful!
Runnergrl -
for the progesterone levels!!! All sounds great!
Isaac - I know there's not much to say but I know how frustrated you feel. We're all here for you.
Banana - I'd be so pissed about that fertility visit! Going private and paying the big bucks to get the worst advice ever?! I'm amazed you didn't punch her in the face! Glad you fought for the scan. Has your DH been tested? I can't remember. Should look into that if not. We're thinking that in a couple more cycles if not luck. Also sorry DH's schedule messed with your ov this cycle
that must be so frustrating. I'm lucky in that sense because my DH will do whatever whenever if its the right "time" but I bet a lot of that comes from knowing how hard and long it's been just to get me ovulating at all. Chin up and hope your DH shows some more support. We always say they don't understand it the same way we do, which is true! Haha, but I think it's easy to forget how ttc affects them. Just us being all psycho about it can't be fun on their end. Hang in there!
Happycpl - good luck with you appointments coming up! Sounds like you and DH have a good game plan! Make them take you seriously!
Elt - how's your cycle coming a long? Sorry you're feeling so frustrated I think a lot of us are there....I feel better now I'm finally ovulating but I can't imagine how frustrated I'll be after trying as long as some of you have. Try to hang in there
Afm - chart looking a bit odd. Had a very slow but steady incline since the massive AF drop. Very out of character for me since in usually up and down like a toto till ov hits. I dreamt last night I was pregnant even though I just had a full AF. Haha oh wishful thinking. Sucks to wake up sometimes. I've been crazy tired lately though. Probably just the effects of AF. Will start my opks mid next week prob. Ready to get another try going!
Hann - Happy be-lated birthday!!! Hope it was wonderful!
Runnergrl -
for the progesterone levels!!! All sounds great! Isaac -
I know there's not much to say but I know how frustrated you feel. We're all here for you. Banana - I'd be so pissed about that fertility visit! Going private and paying the big bucks to get the worst advice ever?! I'm amazed you didn't punch her in the face! Glad you fought for the scan. Has your DH been tested? I can't remember. Should look into that if not. We're thinking that in a couple more cycles if not luck. Also sorry DH's schedule messed with your ov this cycle
that must be so frustrating. I'm lucky in that sense because my DH will do whatever whenever if its the right "time" but I bet a lot of that comes from knowing how hard and long it's been just to get me ovulating at all. Chin up and hope your DH shows some more support. We always say they don't understand it the same way we do, which is true! Haha, but I think it's easy to forget how ttc affects them. Just us being all psycho about it can't be fun on their end. Hang in there! Happycpl - good luck with you appointments coming up! Sounds like you and DH have a good game plan! Make them take you seriously!
Elt - how's your cycle coming a long? Sorry you're feeling so frustrated
I think a lot of us are there....I feel better now I'm finally ovulating but I can't imagine how frustrated I'll be after trying as long as some of you have. Try to hang in there Afm - chart looking a bit odd. Had a very slow but steady incline since the massive AF drop. Very out of character for me since in usually up and down like a toto till ov hits. I dreamt last night I was pregnant even though I just had a full AF. Haha oh wishful thinking. Sucks to wake up sometimes. I've been crazy tired lately though. Probably just the effects of AF. Will start my opks mid next week prob. Ready to get another try going!
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Thanks Mamamac Frustration is an understatement!! We haven't had DH tested yet after all my researching to find somewhere that will do it quickly. We just haven't had the time between, the new house, christmas and visit to my sister in the Uk last week and work is manic for both of us at the moment. We all know we have good and bad days and today is def a bad day, I feel like I am loosing my mind today!! Haven't done stitch of work today just gone daft googling "Have I Ov'd yet!!".
So I have figured the best and worst case scenarios - see if you agree
The situation!!
Tuesday Morning CD14 - Neg OPK
Wednesday Morning CD15 - Neg OPK (DTD that night)
Thursday Morning (8am - fmu) CD16 - Neg OPK
Thursday Night CD16 (10pm) - Pos OPK
Friday Morning CD17 - Neg OPK
(I usually get Pos OPK on CD18 & Ov on CD19 but went back to OPKs after AF arrived 3 days early - which the above now explains why - I've obv started Oving earlier for some reason!)
Worst Case Scenario
I just missed the Surge Thursday morning so say would have got smiley at 10am the min time to ov after that would have been 12 hours so 10pm on Thursday night with the egg lasting a Min of 12 hours bring me to the egg dying at 10am this morning
Best Case Scenario
I had a short Surge starting at 10pm last night to the max ovulation time of 36 hours bring us to 10am Saturday morning and the egg surviving for 24hours bring us to 10am Sunday morning.
So summary is worst case scenario egg died at 10am this morning & Best case Scenario egg won't die until 10am Sunday morning so If we go for the middle I have until 10am tomorrow morning!!!
See told you I was gone batty this morning !!!
I have still have some cramps but def not as bad as they were last night - they kept me awake last night.
Frustration is an understatement!! We haven't had DH tested yet after all my researching to find somewhere that will do it quickly. We just haven't had the time between, the new house, christmas and visit to my sister in the Uk last week and work is manic for both of us at the moment. We all know we have good and bad days and today is def a bad day, I feel like I am loosing my mind today!! Haven't done stitch of work today just gone daft googling "Have I Ov'd yet!!". So I have figured the best and worst case scenarios - see if you agree
The situation!!
Tuesday Morning CD14 - Neg OPK
Wednesday Morning CD15 - Neg OPK (DTD that night)
Thursday Morning (8am - fmu) CD16 - Neg OPK
Thursday Night CD16 (10pm) - Pos OPK
Friday Morning CD17 - Neg OPK
(I usually get Pos OPK on CD18 & Ov on CD19 but went back to OPKs after AF arrived 3 days early - which the above now explains why - I've obv started Oving earlier for some reason!)
Worst Case Scenario
I just missed the Surge Thursday morning so say would have got smiley at 10am the min time to ov after that would have been 12 hours so 10pm on Thursday night with the egg lasting a Min of 12 hours bring me to the egg dying at 10am this morning
Best Case Scenario
I had a short Surge starting at 10pm last night to the max ovulation time of 36 hours bring us to 10am Saturday morning and the egg surviving for 24hours bring us to 10am Sunday morning.
So summary is worst case scenario egg died at 10am this morning & Best case Scenario egg won't die until 10am Sunday morning so If we go for the middle I have until 10am tomorrow morning!!!
See told you I was gone batty this morning !!!
I have still have some cramps but def not as bad as they were last night - they kept me awake last night.
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