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[Hann12]

Thanks elt

I love both yours and bananas name choices! Would you pronounce Elena - E Lena or El ena? If that makes sense?
I hope you get more scans, I got 2 that I paid for in the first 12 weeks, one at 12 weeks and one at 20 and that's it. I was tempted to do a private one at 30 weeks but really didn't want to find out gender so didn't do it just in case!

 

[HappyCpl]

I love all of your name choices! It's so neat to hear what y'all are wanting to name your babies. DH and I have it narrowed down to 2 girl names and 2 boy names so we are ready... Haha. We have our #1 choices and a back up for each in case we were to have 2 boys or 2 girls since we would like to have a total of 3.

Hann, my predictions are based on food... Haha so it depends on how huh answer the following question... How do you feel about eggs? Cooking them? How does their smell affect you when your cooking them? Is this any different than your pre-pregnancy self? Hah. So far, I have used this test with everyone I have known to be pregnant and it's been spot on. Even when my SIL went for her u/s they said one gender and I told her not to paint the nursery yet... She went back and sure enough, the u/s tech was wrong the first time. Another friend everyone swore she was having a girl, but I said boy... Well... Guess who was right? Haha. Maybe I'm just a good guesser.. Haha. Also, how are your emotions? Are you more emotional? Less emotional? Or the same?

I think it's fun to try to predict...

 

[runnergrl]

I'm going to say girl

 

[Hann12]

Thanks for the prediction runnergrl!

Happycpl - I'm totally fine with cooking eggs now but then I'm fine with everything now. In the first trimester I wasn't a huge fan of the smell or cooking them though. I have days still when I really don't fancy eating them though even now - especially omelettes. I have to cook them a lot though as DD loves them so I have just got used to that!

 

[elt1013]

I guess my last post was a little confusing to everyone...MY actual name is Elena Louise...pronounced E lena- both hard E's!

We haven't talked much about baby names this time around, but will be pretty soon!

Oh, and I forgot to mention the exhaustion in my last post also...SOOO TIRED!!!

 

[Hann12]

Sorry Elt - my fault! I was reading it very late at night though lol

 

[MamaMac123]

Hi ladies,

I had a total meltdown this morning at 5 am. Yesterday I had some thermometer drama. I had two very different temp readings (97.7 and 98.4) and it appeared the thermometer was dying so I got a new one yesterday and marked down the higher temp assuming I'd ovulated and finally got my temp surge. Well this morning my temp was 97.8. Not a post ov temp. Which means I haven't ovulated which probably means the clomid has stopped working for me This is what I've been scared of but after it worked 2 months in a row I thought I was in the clear. It's possible I need a higher dosage but I think my body is clomid resistant. I feel so frustrated and completely deflated. Now what do I do? Every time I let out my breath and think we're in a good place to try to get pregnant like normal people this crap happens. And now is te worst because my work permit is currently being renewed and until its processed I can't renew my health card which is expired. So I have no health coverage until probably mid May. I'll probably have to pay out of pocket to see doc again to up my prescription or switch meds. Not the end of the world just more drama to think and worry about.

Why won't my body just work?? Why can't I just have normal cycles?? I'm doing everything I can and it all just feels so hopeless. So there I was at 5 am sitting on my bed sobbing. Poor DH had to leave for work and probably thinks I've lost it. Now I'm at work but I feel so depressed and miserable. I hate this.

 

[Hann12]

Oh mama I was so sad to read this! I just looked at your chart, I assume you stopped opking because you thought the temp dip was it. I'm so sorry that its not working out
I do think you need to go back though, is it worth holding off until may as mays not far away now? Do you know what the next course of action is? I know I can't offer any advice really as not sure what the next stage is but I really hope you get done better care. I still have every faith that you will get that bfp. We are all here for you so please don't feel alone. Big big big

 

[runnergrl]

Hann took the words right out of my mouth, Mama!
Hope you get things sorted very soon and its not too much trouble. love!

 

[MamaMac123]

Thanks

 

[MamaMac123]

Thinking about things all morning of course. I just called my doc office and left a message for my doc to call me. Hopefully she does (they're sort of weird here with doctors...last time I had a question they told me I had to make an appointment!) and if so I will ask about the dosage on the clomid. Maybe we can up it for a couple cycles. My original dose only worked one month. This higher dose worked 2 cycles so maybe a higher dose will give me another 2-3 cycles of ovulating. But I have a feeling it will be short lived and eventually stop working again. I think this is just my body.

So my other idea is to go back to soy isoflavones for my next cycle. It works like clomid but they aren't the same. The first cycle I took it I took a low dose and it made me ovulate. Now I'm on higher clomid doses I could up the soy dosage myself and maybe ovulate that way. If it works then maybe I'll try alternating clomid and soy each cycle. Maybe that will trick my body to not go all resistant on the clomid. :shrugs: going to research it a bit but at least it's an idea. I really can't stand doing nothing.

 

[MamaMac123]

Btw Hann, love the name Caitlin! I too thought of Carrie the horror movie when it was mentioned but I still like the name I think Caitlin is adorable though! Excellent choice!

 

[Hann12]

Mama just did a quick google about pcos and climid:

"Sometimes, ultrasound will show the follicles growing in response to Clomid, but the midcycle LH surge isn't strong enough to bring on ovulation. In this case, your doctor may prescribe Clomid along with an injection of hCG, like the drug Ovidrel, to trigger ovulation and boost the midcycle LH surge.

If after trying these options, you're still not ovulating on Clomid, your doctor may suggest trying different ovarian stimulating medications. Hopeful studies are emerging about the medication Letrozole, also known as Femara. Studies have shown that Letrozole may induce ovulation in some women with PCOS who do not respond to Clomid, as well as some women with unexplained infertility and Clomid resistance.

In one study, women with Clomid resistance and PCOS were more likely to ovulate when taking the medication Letrozole (79.3% ovulated), than when taking Clomid in combination with two, low dose injections of FSH therapy (56.59% ovulated). Pregnancy rates were also improved, with 23% of the women taking Letrozole achieving pregnancy, and 14% achieving pregnancy with the Clomid and two-injections of low-dose FSH combination."

Maybe a way forward this way? A mid cycle ultrasound sounds like a good idea to see if you are ovulating anyway."

Also not sure what your clomid dosage is but found this too:

"Sometimes, the reason you may not ovulate on Clomid is because the dosage is too low. It's common to start Clomid treatment at 50 mg, and then increase to 100 mg if you don't respond to 50 mg. In some cases, doctors will try doses up to 250 mg. "

I'm sure you know all this but thought i'd post it anyway just in case

 

[MamaMac123]

Thanks Hann I did know most of that but the study results are very interesting.

So I've been looking up ways to induce AF in an annovulatory cycle without provera and turns out you can induce AF with progesterone cream. I went ahead and picked some up. I also read that it can take up to 3 weeks to ovulate on clomid so I guess there's still a chance I could ov. I think more likely my body geared up to it and then didnt. I'm going to wait till cd30 and see what happens. If no ov then I think I'll start the progesterone cream to force AF. Think I have to use it for two weeks then stop and that should force af within a few days. Does anyone know, will using the progesterone cream raise bbt to look like I ovulated? Seems logical that it could. Just don't want to start using it and get my hopes up if my temp surges.

Hopefully I'll ov in next few days but I'm def not holding my breath. If not then hopefully I can force AF and then maybe give soy a try or a higher dose of clomid if doc calls me back ever.

 

[banana07]

Mamamac just read your post. Hopefully you have cheered up since. Hann has given some great advice dunno what more i could add except just chin up and hang on in there and trust me even when your body appears to be working and everything seems to be regular its not all its cracked up to be hence why some of us are all still here. You seem more positive since your first post today, your great at researching and coming up with ideas and plans. My sister is on oestrogen, clomid and some sort injection. I haven't really chat to her properly since she started taking them she lives in England but hoping to catch up with her this weekend. She pretty much summed it up saying her a
Body just isnt working and so she is in hormone city. She is trying for her first also but i think the worst part is even tho she would like a baby her heart is not set on it, she is going through all this for her husband who desperately wants a baby. Now she obv wants one and wilt be delighted if she gets pregnant but i think it must be harder when her heart is not 100% in it i think its the wanting and desire for a baby that pushes most of us through this. Id have given up already and certainly wouldn't be taking meds and stuff if i wasn't desperate!

Anyway super big hugs to you. And just remember the dancing bunny shaking his bum bum ( Im on the phone now so i can't get him but just remember him night cheer you up x )

 

[elt1013]

Mama- Couldn't have said it any better than Hann did! And I have heard of inducing AF with progesterone cream. It's worth a try I guess if this cycle lags on!

 

[MamaMac123]

Thanks girls, still down but feeling better today with a plan. Doctor never called and I'm betting she just never will. So dumb. But I have a dear friend who's gone through all this same stuff. She used clomid for all but one of her kids and knows everything there is about pcos and fertility. She's been more of a help to me than anything a single doctor has done.
So blessed to have her and all of you! Thank you all! Hope you guys have a great weekend!

 

[runnergrl]

mama!

 

[banana07]

Oh its getting quiet in here again! Not many of up left i suppose. Actually are there as many pregnant ladies in here now as ttc ladies?!?!?

Anyway just popped in to say hello not much news here. On cd8 today finished my clomid 2 days it wasn't as bad as i thought bit moody and bloated but nothing major.

Got myself loads of supplies last week preseed, conception vitamins for myself and dh, cheapo preg tests and a thermometer! So i am finally starting to temp forgot last 2 mornings so Im a bit late starting but should be ok af only left 2days ago. Dunno how to post my chart but Will figure it out tomorrow on the work desktop.

Feeling very sick right now dunno if its something i ate or a bug or still side effects of the clomid but am tucked up in bed early.

How are you now mama?

 

[MamaMac123]

Oh Banana sounds exciting! hope this cycle is it for you!

I'm doing alright, got my hands on actual Provera so I'm going to start that tomorrow night assuming I haven't ovulated (which is very unlikely!) so I should get an AF in 10-15 days. Then I'm going to give the soy a go for a cycle. Just need to decide on a dosage. Will prob research it today. They say its double your clomid dose so it would be 200 each day but my clomid dose needs to go up so I assume my soy dose should too. But I've also read not to exceed 200 on soy so will need to check it all out before I decide. Then for next cycle I'm going to up my clomid myself as I'll have 2 months worth by skipping this cycle and goin for soy. It's so annoying with the healthcare system here I have to figure all this myself! But honestly I swear I know more between myself and my friend whose been through this many times than any doctor I've seen!