TTC after loss - over 40 - any takers? Our lucky thread - 9 rainbows and 1 BFP

[Soanxious]

Oh darn!! I was so hoping this was a BFP Becks....

I could see that you were out.. im psychic or is that psychotic?

Anyways UK girls can you click the link and help mumsnet to get us women proper care after suffering mc

https://www.mumsnet.com/campaigns/m...mpaign=Miscarriage Care Campaign get involved

 

[josie1234]

Hi Tanya - yes I saw something recently about the care of women that have had miscarriages, can't remember where I saw it now. I would imagine that it varies from place to place but it would be nice if there was some policy that everyone could follow with regard to their care to ensure that everyone is treated with compassion and helped more. Yes you did mention about exercise, what I will do is keep a track of what exercise I do and maybe try to cut it down and see if that helps my cycle. I bought some Menopace Original which contains Soya Isoflavone extract (20mg), https://www.vitabiotics.com/menopace/original/

Thank you about the job. Time will tell, eh? If worst comes to the worst, I will just have to reapply for jobs lol.

Fi - it is crazy when your chart does mad things, I never know what it is doing. I hope we get some sense of them soon and I really hope that yours doesn't go much longer. Thanks. Lol at you being worn out.

Becks - you are welcome. Good on you walking so much. You need also to do things that increase your metabolism, do things you have not done before and vary what you do as your body does go into a plateau and get's used to what you are doing. How about when you are walking, pick a point and speed your pace until you get to that point and then slow it down to normal pace until another point and do that a few times. (ie lamp-post or tree), this gets your heart rate up and you can choose the distance of your intervals. If there's nothing to pinpoint then time yourself - ie speed up for 30 seconds and then back to normal pace, repeat. Or you could even stop and do 10 squats holding on to the pram and walk on. Couple of ideas. But you are doing really well and good on you for cutting out some foods. Diets are only short-term solutions but small changes lead to long term changes. I've enclosed a couple of pics to keep you motivated lol and may post some regularly on here for you



Thanks Crystal - I hope it is the right decision. I bet you can't wait to call your GP. I can't remember if you have done a digi or not?

 

[josie1234]

cute pic

 

[Soanxious]

Jo is 20mg enough? when did you start that? Could you boost it with more soy iso? I take 100mg most women take around 160mg I thought I would try 100mg this cycle.. these are the ones I take... https://www.justvitamins.co.uk/Herbal-Vitamin-Supplements/Soya-Isoflavones-100mg.aspx#.U25ypiinjIU

The soy iso at higher strength is taken CD 3-7 for the best results.. that should force ov.. or make better or more eggs.

This info is out there too... WHAT IS IT?
Soya Isoflavones are derived from soya beans. They have been dubbed “the natural Clomid,”
As they work in pretty much an identical manner.
Just like Clomid; Soya Isoflavones work by tricking your body into thinking its low on oestrogen. Your body then kick starts production of FSH (Follicle-stimulating hormone) followed by LH (Luteinizing hormone) Which are both necessary to release Healthy Eggs during ovulation.
FSH is released at the start of the menstrual cycle; it stimulates the growth of an immature egg into a fully matured egg. When the egg has matured your body then releases a surge of LH. LH is the hormone that tells the ovary to release the egg.

WHEN?
You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on either CD 1-5 , 2-6, 3-7 , 4-8 or 5-9.
If you take soy Isoflavones during the later time bracket, for example CD5-9, you shall strengthen the egg that has already started growing producing a healthier egg. The earlier in your cycle you take It, the higher your chance of releasing multiple eggs but these eggs will not be as mature as the eggs grown from taking Soya later.
A lot of women will choose the middle cycle (3 -7) allowing time for a strong and healthy egg to develop without erasing the chance of a second egg being developed and released.

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

DOSE?
The dose is really down to you but you should always use the lowest amount that works for you.
With Clomid the starting dose is 100mg. Soya Isoflavones are said to be half the strength of Clomid, so it makes sense for the starting dose to be 100mg.
The trouble with 100mg of soya is that the capsules tend to come as 40mg. So you have a choice of starting at 80mg or 120mg.

I would recommend that if you know that you do ovulate without taking soy then you should start with 80mg.
And if you know that you don’t usually ovulate you can start with 120mg.
Some women change the dose on different days. So they may start at 120mg for the first 3 days then give an extra boost for the last 2 days with 160mg.

As I have said though, use the lowest dose possible for yourself. If you ovulate using 120mg/day stick to that for a few cycles. GIVE IT A CHANCE. It is said that it takes 3months to get the full benefits of what you are taking. NEVER EXCEED 200mg/day.

OTHER BENEFITS?
The following potential health benefits are attributed to Isoflavones:
Reduce heart disease risk
Protect against prostate problems
improve bone health
Reduce cancer risk

I just watched this video on recurrent mc its the BBC Horizon Documentary... gives me hope..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TO7vwvbRWY

 

[Oasis717]

Aw thanks Jo that really means a lot to have so much encouragement. I dont just look better I feel better ditching the junk. Weve decided we are having one Saturday night off every two weeks. Something to look forward to. The muscles in my legs are getting much more defined and dh loves my bum best as due to all the years of walking its damn good if I say so myself I dont like much on me but I do like my bum! We live where there are so many hills that the walk is constantly intense/easier/intense but will def try speeding up then normal xxxx
Im def out Tanya no symptoms at all but thats ok I need to loose more anyways xxx

 

[Soanxious]

Jo love the pic!! I liked it on your FB page yesterday!!

Aww Becks.. gutting... onto the next cycle same as me then..

I mentioned weight loss to my Dr I said I know I need to lose about 1.5 stone and she said.. we can always say we need to do this n that but sometimes its not that so don't worry.. so I went and bought a custard slice to celebrate

 

[Oasis717]

Lol Tanya you do make me giggle!! Yes onwards to next month hoping my lp is longer than 11 days at least xxxx

 

[Soanxious]

That slight dip could be implantation... then it takes 48 hours to double so give it 4 days after a possible implantation dip before a 10 mul will pic it up... or possibly a frer as some mention it as low as 6.5mul who knows... im still hoping!!

 

[dancareoi]

If I had a t-shirt like jo's it would say

'Eat, sleep, then eat some more'!

 

[dancareoi]

If I had a t-shirt like jo's it would say

'Eat, sleep, then eat some more'!

 

[crysshae]

Lol!

 

[Soanxious]

I had a workout today....

I hoovered the house top to bottom.. cut the grass.. raked garden.. thats my kinda workout..

I used to be a massive gym addict for many years.. think I am in my Anti gym years now..

 

[Soanxious]

Crystal I love the ticker!!

 

[Sparkle125]

Hey Ladies!

Crystal your lines look great!!!

Love catching up with everyone. Glad to see everyone is doing well!

AFM: I am going for more blood work tomorrow and my first u/s is somewhere around a week from Wednesday. I think I may be starting to have some symptoms, but it could just be the progesterone I am on. My boobs are sore, today the super tiredness set in, and I was at dinner with a friend tonight and got so nauseated I couldn't even eat my meal. We'll see. I was super nauseated from week 6-16 last time. Happy for every symptom at the moment!

 

[Oasis717]

Theres the big drop today I knew was coming! Xx

 

[Left wonderin]

Becks isn't it amazing how in tune you can get with your body !! You were dead right yesterday .

AFM I ordered a bundle of ic Opk and some pg tests . Can't wait to get down to seriously poas come on mr postie you better get here before cd 1 ...... Well I guess he has some time lol..... Its a bit frustrating not knowing " when " you are going to ov in your cycle especially since pre pregnancy I was like clockwork ! For all you STM do your cycles ever go back to pre preg ways ?

 

[garfie]

Oasis - Nobody knows our bodies better - but it's still a kick in the teeth when it happens

So - I don't think iso will be any good for me - as I've been told I'm estrogen dominant (I have endometerosis) amazing I even manage to get pregnant

AFM - Well what can I say - just look at my chart



X

 

[Left wonderin]

Holy cow Garfie !!! What a chart ! Nearly as good as JO,s . They need their own frames looks like your body tried to ov a few times this cycle ? Looks to me like yesterday temp dip + Opk + could I indicate ov . Only time will tell you will have to wait 2 more days to confirm !

 

[Soanxious]

Sparkle im so happy you are getting awesome symptoms.. good luck at appt!!

Aww Becks onto another cycle with me then....

Aww just wish there was something Fi

 

[crysshae]

Becks - When you know, you know.

Jenn - Yay for symptoms!

Fi - What about Vitex? That can help with estrogen dominance.

Regina - Ready for your addiction to start up again. Lol!