Ttc number 3 :)

Gypsy: That's hard when it's your normal symptoms! I'm exact opposite in that I really don't have symptoms for either though imagine it'd be harder having symptoms that could be either.

I'm hoping the increased agitation is a good thing though.

I've been meaning to ask, do you think the grapefruit juice helped with cm? If so, when did you start drinking it and how much / often? I'm contemplating on picking some up. I'm just a little uncertain as I don't like grapefruit, so I doubt I'd like the juice lol but I'd be will if it helped.


cns: I was reading how sleep deprivation just pretty much fries your hormones. I hadn't really given it much thought until recently, but it makes a lot of sense. I did make my goal, I think 6.5 hours, but have been falling short, but definitely working it.

Glad it's the last day of AF! Are you doing opks again? When are you going to start them?



AFM, I actually managed 8.5 hours of sleep last night. I could barely stay up from the little sleep the other night. I did end up discarding the last 2 temps though. This morning's was better.

So far just spotting today. We'll see if it increases at all over today. I'm thinking it won't though, so a 3 day AF.

Started the soy isoflavones last night.

CD 4 today. I ordered more opks yesterday. I'm probably going to start around CD 10 in case the SI worked. If I don't get a positive opk or any fertility signs within maybe 5 days I'll probably stop the opks until I start noticing some changes. Not really sure. I haven't quite decided how I'm going to do it, but I certainly don't want to repeat last month and be testing daily from CD 5 lol I'm just praying that the SI help me ovulate at a more reasonable time. If it's CD 40 again, that's Christmas Eve. Otherwise FF is predicting my possible O days between December 14 - 20 (CD 30 - 36).
 
Spunky i do think the grapefruit juice helped. I was also drinking green tea which I think tastes like dirt. With both of them I just sculled them as fast as I could lol. One mug of green tea a day and about 200ml of grapefruit juice. This was teamed up with about 4 glasses of water and a coupe mugs of normal tea as well.

Well done on the sleep!!

CNS I'm about 99% sure I'm out. My back is aching and I'm getting stabby pains in my left side. Also CP is coming down and slightly open. I'd say I would have AF by tomorrow or Monday. Have fun having fun!! lol

AFM - as said above I'm pretty sure I'm out. My lower back is killing me, and my CP has moved down. The only thing I do have is a high temp still. I would say it will be down tomorrow. We missed the fertile period so much. So I think next month I won't be trying (I'll hang around still to see how you are all going) because DH makes me frustrated as shit that he isn't into me sexually as I am with him. Wait to make a woman's confidence drop. They say there's nothing sexier than confidence but when your own husband doesn't want you like that then what.

Sorry having a winge. I'm tired and sore.
 
Aw Gypsy , I am sorry you are feeling that way ! I can totally understand how frustrating/upsetting that must be :( like you mentioned before , maybe you two should confront those things before moving forward with ttc because as you know , you gotta take care of you and your feelings too ! :) big hugs to you & prayers ! :hugs:
 
Spunky - I am going to do OPK's again . Probably gonna start cd8 just to see the progression & fade in from negative to positive . Plus I have 40 of them so I'm good to go ! Lol .

My chart seems to be much steadier this time so far . Praying it stays that way & there's a nice clear temp shift around O!
 
CD 15 and OPKs are still negative. There was no line whatsoever today. :growlmad:
This cycle is going to be long...
 
Thanks Spunky. I was having such a woe is me day. In fact I've been like that for this whole cycle!!

Weirdly the backaches and period pains have gone down today and my temp has gone up to 36.6........ I'm day 27 today.

Sorry things are taking so long Katy. I find that the start of the cycle seems to fly its that last week that kills me!!
 
Gypsy , your chart looks seriously promising ! I hope it's your bfp!

Katy - I usually O of cd14 (28 day cycles) & didn't O until cd19 last cycle ! I think it was due to a cold . So just be patient , I know it's hard .. I'm sure O is on its way !
 
It could be CNS but I still doubt it very much! My back pain is back and it's following through to my legs. Boobs still sensitive, and tired as. We've had a big day and it has been quite warm today so that doesn't help. I've got burnt shoulders silly girl!!

I felt my CP earlier stupidly and it was soft and low, but then a few hours later high and hard. I need to stop doing that! Check in the morning and that is it!
 
Temp still at 36.7 this morning. Day 28 - 15 dpo.

Im getting nervous now. Trends show I don't go over a 30 day cycle.... a couple more days wait. This has been a mind fuck!!
 
Gypsy: I really feel like things are looking really good for you. I know you don't want to get your hopes up, it just feels like these are good signs for you this month :hugs:

If not, I totally get why you might want to take next month off. If that is the case, I hope things improve with DH (well, I hope they do regardless!).

cns: Ohh tomorrow then! Hopefully O will be earlier than last month.

Katy: Sorry about the opks :( Hopefully you'll get your positive here soon.


AFM, I've been keeping busy. I have a health fair project due tomorrow so I spent about 12 hours at school yesterday to finish. I thought it was going to be stressful, but I actually had fun just spending that time with my classmates. We made it fun. So I think I've been doing relatively well trying to keep stress under control.

I started drinking grapefruit juice yesterday. All I can say is that stuff is disgusting. I bought more today. I can handle it if I plug my nose and chug it, though the after taste just lllllliiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggeeeeerrrrrrrssss. I have to have something else right after to help get rid of the taste. So today was my second day of that.

Last night was my third day of soy isoflavones. I think those seriously increased my sex drive... When my classmate/friend learned that my kids were staying at my mom's for the night (first time she's ever taken both....), she said to just do it like I don't care if I get pregnant :haha: Not knowing that we're actually ttc. BD'd last night even though I know it's way too early for it to matter much for anything. I was having twinges in both left and right sides, though I know it's still too early to mean anything.

I have tonight and tomorrow and then I'll be done with soy iso. CD 6 today. Partial ferning today, though not really sure why as I don't think I had a lot of sodium yesterday. I think temps seem to be looking a bit better this cycle with consistency and more sleep.

Otherwise still going with the rest of the supplements except for vitex. And I'm getting sick again :( Seriously annoying. I'm sure it's the weather. It's gone from hot to cold to hot and now back to cold. It was, I think, in the 70s Friday and snowing today. It was last night I noticed it starting up again.
 

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Oh yeah, the 24th is our wedding anniversary. Pretty sure we conceived DD Nov 27th. While I'm not a fan of having 3 kids with birthdays so clumped together, I still think it'd be kind of neat to conceive on the same day. Though I doubt it's likely as it's only CD 13, but FF has Dec 18 as a strong O possibility which is when we conceived DS. That's proabably more likely if we were actually successful.
 
Finally, a blazing pozitive OPK. Two days late but better late than never. I really feel my ovaries too.
Wish me luck.
 
Spunky that could be cool. Imagine the epic birthdays you could have!!

Good luck Katy!!

AFM - temp has gone slightly down this morning. Nothing drastic from 36.7 to 36.6. Im still bloated and pulled something down there when I was hanging curtains last night. Killed mw all night.

I caved and took a test last night. Silly no FMU, but I swear when I put the test at an angle I could see something. My ph is a piece of crap so didn't take a pic. I knew I'd do this to myself, if AF comes now ill be distraught.
 
Katy: Awesome! Good luck!

Gypsy: FMU! I feel good about this for you. Your temps look amazing, you're 16 dpo. Your newest temp doesn't seem like anything out of normal post-O variation. Fx!


AFM, temp down again this morning. So much for stable temps. Tonight is my last night of SI. Nothing much, really. I just got home, but I was in such a hurry to get out the door this morning that I hadn't eaten or had anything to drink until I got home. So I still need to talk all of my AM supplements. Even if the vitamin isn't doing squat for ttc, I think it's at least helping out in other ways. My hair isn't thinning, but I always get a bit of a clump out in the shower. I've only taken them consistently 6 days (as I haven't taken it yet today), and the last couple of nights I've seen a big different with my hair. So I'm hoping the over all benefit from it kind of helps.

Otherwise, absolutely nothing exciting here.
 
Im cramping more and feel like im leaking. The next two days are going to be long.
 
I'm praying so hard for you gypsy!



AFM, took last dose of soy isoflavones a bit ago. Tons of twinges on both sides, but mostly the left. Doesn't seem like it could've been the SI though since it started about 30 minutes after. I've been twingy the last couple days as well, but today it didn't start until after taking the SI.

CP high firm and closed. Cm is dry.

Managed to get all supplements in today including the disgusting grapefruit juice.
 
Thanks Spunky. Still no AF here. I've been cramping on and off all day, and my boobs have felt quite heavy on and off. i keep getting these bounds of energy when at this point i'm usually a giant grump yelling at my kids and DH all the time because i have no patience lol.

The grapefruit juice is definitely foul!!
 
Good luck Gypsy!

O day is today, we did what we could, now the waiting begins. Next weekend will be here soon, I'm sure :winkwink:.
 
Major temp drop: 96.03. My temps frustrate me. I'm guessing this is definitely going to be another long, wonky cycle. The thought of not ovulating for another month kills my soul a bit. I know my temps now aren't indicative of when I will O, but now that they are looking more erratic I'm sure it's not going to be much different. I'm just hoping that school keeps me busy enough. The semester doesn't end until Dec 16, so hopefully everything from now until then will occupy me enough so I won't be dwelling on my cycle so much.
 
Spunky - I'm sorry :( I know how frustrating crazy temps can be . Didn't you O last month though despite the erratic temps ? It looks to me like you did . Even though they are erratic I can still see the temp shift . So try not to get down . On FF you can see plenty of women have similar charts and erratic temps and still O'd and conceived those months . It's all about getting enough sleep and temping at the same time (or close to the same time ) every day . Try to relax with school and even though it's hard , try not to stress about ttc . Stress isn't allowed ! :) fingers crossed for you this month !

Gypsy- can't wait for updates from you !!

AFM- cd9 here . Temps look much better than last month so far . Granted though , I wasn't temping until closer to O last month so we shall see ! I've been taking prenatals morning and night along with wheatgrass supps, probiotics , & co q10. I also take potassium 3 times a day . I've been averaging 2500 calories a day and reaching my goals on all of my nutrients . We are bd'ing every 2-3 days (cd6 & 9 so far) & will probably give it a rest until my first positive OPK which should happen around cd12-13. Then we will try to bd 3 times in my fertile window . All of this timing and diet mess is in relation to swaying for a boy. Hopefully it helps ! I know I didn't do any of this with my girls ! Lol . But if it doesn't work oh well, at least I tried ! :)
 

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