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I've been drinking water all day and there's been a 2 litre bottle of coke in the fridge 
Underhand tactics - formula companies
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I've been drinking water all day and there's been a 2 litre bottle of coke in the fridge
another thing I've been drinking all the time! lol
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I've been drinking water all day and there's been a 2 litre bottle of coke in the fridge
another thing I've been drinking all the time! lol
Lol same! I went off all caffeine when I was pregnant. Would keep me up for hours at a time! But now I can't get enough!
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Wow 117 pages !!
Well I give up now as no one (well only one or 2 people) actually read what I was asking and answered properly. Everyone else is waaay defensive and reactive and seems determined to split everyone. I wish people on here (surely it doesnt happen in real life!) wouldnt make such a split like its gang warfare, there is no need to define who you are by how you feed your baby and fight the world about it. There is lots of 'us and them' language (and I have to say, from mums who FF especially). I wish ladies who FF (and I was one of them initially! and could have easily been full stop!) wouldnt blame ladies who BF for what are essentially wider problems not caused by individual mums! why don't we all ring up the SMA helpline and direct any anger at them instead.
Sigh.
I still like frogs, but I didnt get the perfume convo as I don't wear it ...
Sorry I know this is done...but just read this now and had to LOL. Silly comment.
Obviously though I do in fact blame all BF'ing moms for my son not latching! I blame the world! hahaha.
Sorry made me chuckle.
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Wow 117 pages.
I don't think I have much to constructively add to the subject that hasn't been covered. A few questions came up again that I almost answered but thought..nah I'd just be covering the same ground
What did strike me however, was that a lot of posts highlight inconsistancies in support and information in infant feeding, regardless of method, depending on who your health care professionals are and where you happen to live. I personally think that this is something which needs to be readressed to ensure that all trusts are working in line with baby friendly guidelines: which advise that correct information on infant feeding should be easily accessible to all.
I realise that some believe the responsibility to find this information is the mothers, however while these inconsistancies exist many people will seek information where it appears to be available. This will often be through these baby clubs and 'advice lines', which can claim to be providing a public service while people still feel the need to look outside the information available via the NHS. This despite the information being sometimes misleading or less than accurate in some case in both breastfeeding and formula feeding. Formula companies have historically NEVER provided health information for formula feeding mothers as part of their advertising prior to the ban. Therefore the claim that advertising is needed to allow formula feeding to be done safely has little substance, imo. It does however show that the demand for such things or the level of influence that they actually have is in some ways indicative of the inconsistancies highlighted in this thread.
There is in some cases a lot of hurt running through this thread, imo, for different reasons.
I don't think it's too much to sometimes listen to why someone is asking for certain language to be avoided, whether you think people are being over sensitive or not. Nor otoh, to understand that not all language is used intentionally to hurt. I think that irl the pages and pages of discussion of artificial feeding for example would go something like this for most people.
" if a baby is artficially fed..."
"Can you not use that word it is hurtful to me, why not say formula fed"
" Oh sorry, I didn't realise, force of habit..my bad. Can I ask why?."
" No probs, it's just that X, Y, Z"
" Oh, ok..I won't use it if it makes you feel bad"
I'm not saying that we should have to censor all our posts or pat each other on the back and agree. Far from it, just that on occasion it is may be more constructive to consider whether it is worth repeating something unnecessarily. Just a thought, you're obviously entitled to disagree
Oasn, I know there's been a lot of..'oh this thing still going on, I still don't know what peoples problem is, what's the big deal etc, etc.'
We all have things that are important to us, pet causes related to our interests, our political views, our social consciences etc. For some it's health related, others political. Something that gives us a bee in our bonnet or makes us want to get out and make changes. If something seems trivial and no big deal to you, it doesn't mean that it shouldn't matter to someone else. I have zero interest in some of the things that really make people tick here. I just tend to skip past those discussions if I have nothing constructive to say.
What would be the point of joining in their discussion just to say how pointless I found it, or of how little I thought of something they were passionate about or interested in.
Jmho of course, it's obviously up to individual posters what they post.
Anyway, again, jmo and we all know opinions are like buttholes, we all have them, some are similar to their own...and some stink
I don't think I have much to constructively add to the subject that hasn't been covered. A few questions came up again that I almost answered but thought..nah I'd just be covering the same ground
What did strike me however, was that a lot of posts highlight inconsistancies in support and information in infant feeding, regardless of method, depending on who your health care professionals are and where you happen to live. I personally think that this is something which needs to be readressed to ensure that all trusts are working in line with baby friendly guidelines: which advise that correct information on infant feeding should be easily accessible to all.
I realise that some believe the responsibility to find this information is the mothers, however while these inconsistancies exist many people will seek information where it appears to be available. This will often be through these baby clubs and 'advice lines', which can claim to be providing a public service while people still feel the need to look outside the information available via the NHS. This despite the information being sometimes misleading or less than accurate in some case in both breastfeeding and formula feeding. Formula companies have historically NEVER provided health information for formula feeding mothers as part of their advertising prior to the ban. Therefore the claim that advertising is needed to allow formula feeding to be done safely has little substance, imo. It does however show that the demand for such things or the level of influence that they actually have is in some ways indicative of the inconsistancies highlighted in this thread.
There is in some cases a lot of hurt running through this thread, imo, for different reasons.
I don't think it's too much to sometimes listen to why someone is asking for certain language to be avoided, whether you think people are being over sensitive or not. Nor otoh, to understand that not all language is used intentionally to hurt. I think that irl the pages and pages of discussion of artificial feeding for example would go something like this for most people.
" if a baby is artficially fed..."
"Can you not use that word it is hurtful to me, why not say formula fed"
" Oh sorry, I didn't realise, force of habit..my bad. Can I ask why?."
" No probs, it's just that X, Y, Z"
" Oh, ok..I won't use it if it makes you feel bad"
I'm not saying that we should have to censor all our posts or pat each other on the back and agree. Far from it, just that on occasion it is may be more constructive to consider whether it is worth repeating something unnecessarily. Just a thought, you're obviously entitled to disagree
Oasn, I know there's been a lot of..'oh this thing still going on, I still don't know what peoples problem is, what's the big deal etc, etc.'
We all have things that are important to us, pet causes related to our interests, our political views, our social consciences etc. For some it's health related, others political. Something that gives us a bee in our bonnet or makes us want to get out and make changes. If something seems trivial and no big deal to you, it doesn't mean that it shouldn't matter to someone else. I have zero interest in some of the things that really make people tick here. I just tend to skip past those discussions if I have nothing constructive to say.
What would be the point of joining in their discussion just to say how pointless I found it, or of how little I thought of something they were passionate about or interested in.
Jmho of course, it's obviously up to individual posters what they post.
Anyway, again, jmo and we all know opinions are like buttholes, we all have them, some are similar to their own...and some stink
I'm confused - are people deliberatly going off topic to keep this thread alive?
Sorry for going back on topic but it's taken me a while to catch up..
Is the company underhand - probably they're in buisiness to make money, and this is a good way to target a market otherwise excluded from them
Are they giving out mis information - the breastfeeding support link on the website gives numbers for NHS, NCT, LLL, etc who are the people we should be calling for support
why do we care - for me the more people that breastfeed, the more normal it becomes, and therefore the easier it becomes ie more support available, better attitudes towards feeding in public etc
i'd like to thank the mods for not shutting this thread down, I've found parts of it quite interesting.
Sorry for going back on topic but it's taken me a while to catch up..
Is the company underhand - probably they're in buisiness to make money, and this is a good way to target a market otherwise excluded from them
Are they giving out mis information - the breastfeeding support link on the website gives numbers for NHS, NCT, LLL, etc who are the people we should be calling for support
why do we care - for me the more people that breastfeed, the more normal it becomes, and therefore the easier it becomes ie more support available, better attitudes towards feeding in public etc
i'd like to thank the mods for not shutting this thread down, I've found parts of it quite interesting.
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Mine did too! When Mia had colic my HV went out and got me some comfort milk (cause I couldn't leave the house) and helped me make up a bottle. She took Mia, cuddled her, gave me a bit of a rest. She was great!
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*yawn*
Like this hasn't been done to death a million times.
As long as we all love our babies and look after them, who cares how they're fed?
Like this hasn't been done to death a million times.
As long as we all love our babies and look after them, who cares how they're fed?
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*tongue very firmly in cheek!*
See!!! The power of advertising!!
Now I want a burger
See!!! The power of advertising!!
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Haha... oh dear...
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And thats my box of roses now finished. well done ladies, you kept me entertained, i think we should do this more often 
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I want macdonalds now but I need to lose wait!! damn you
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