Views on homosexuality

Well Eve ate the apple and it all went wrong, so potential when they were chucked out the garden they went to live a cavey man exsitance. I believe there are Christians who believe Humans lived alongside dinosaurs.
 
Well Eve ate the apple and it all went wrong, so potential when they were chucked out the garden they went to live a cavey man exsitance. I believe there are Christians who believe Humans lived alongside dinosaurs.

Yep, I believe this. The Bible mentions dinosaur-like creatures several times, there are accurate depictions of different types of dinosaurs in cave drawings and architecture all over the world, and the discovery a few years ago of red blood cells in dinosaur bones would suggest that the dinosaurs were around more recently than some people believe.
 
Hm maybe this thread should b renamed ' your views on homosexuality....and dinosaurs' lol....
 
oooooooo this is getting interesting gay dinos!
 
Sorry, I must....

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Ha! Sorry - I didn't mean to veer to conversation on a dinosaur related tangent.

FWIW, It was an intended joke directed at those I was getting angry at - not general Christian's.
 
Wow - just for the record, I have two people I know; the first is a lady who would describe herself as a Christian. She goes to church every Sunday, will regularly quote parts of the bible and judges people in the most horrific way possible. In the name of her 'religion' she will find opportunties to visit her hatred on homosexuals, unmarried mothers, mixed race couples and their offspring, Muslims and anyone who generally isn't white, middle class and also a Christian.

On the other hand, I have another friend who is a gay man. He is currently studying to be a social worker. He is literally one of the kindest, most forgiving and generous people you could ever wish to meet. After years of abuse at the hands of a family member, it would have been easy for him to go completely off the rails but he didn't. He decided that he wasn't going to go that way and instead wanted to help children who have suffered in the way that he did.

Now, if I believed in heaven, I know which person I'd put a bet on for getting there when they die.

Not judging religion or homosexuality, just pointing out that EVERYONE is different and has their own merits and faults.

As you've probably guessed, I'm not religious but I do understand that a great many religions stand by the basic principle of 'do as you would be done by' to use a paraphrase. Now this is a life rule I'd like to follow and also one I'd like to encourage my LO to live by too. If she grew up to be gay, a Christian, a Muslim or a page 3 girl - then as long as she's happy and she's not hurting anyone else then she'd have my wholehearted support.
 
Wow - just for the record, I have two people I know; the first is a lady who would describe herself as a Christian. She goes to church every Sunday, will regularly quote parts of the bible and judges people in the most horrific way possible. In the name of her 'religion' she will find opportunties to visit her hatred on homosexuals, unmarried mothers, mixed race couples and their offspring, Muslims and anyone who generally isn't white, middle class and also a Christian.

On the other hand, I have another friend who is a gay man. He is currently studying to be a social worker. He is literally one of the kindest, most forgiving and generous people you could ever wish to meet. After years of abuse at the hands of a family member, it would have been easy for him to go completely off the rails but he didn't. He decided that he wasn't going to go that way and instead wanted to help children who have suffered in the way that he did.



Now, if I believed in heaven, I know which person I'd put a bet on for getting there when they die.

Not judging religion or homosexuality, just pointing out that EVERYONE is different and has their own merits and faults.

As you've probably guessed, I'm not religious but I do understand that a great many religions stand by the basic principle of 'do as you would be done by' to use a paraphrase. Now this is a life rule I'd like to follow and also one I'd like to encourage my LO to live by too. If she grew up to be gay, a Christian, a Muslim or a page 3 girl - then as long as she's happy and she's not hurting anyone else then she'd have my wholehearted support.

Some of the most vile and nastiest judging jerks I have met have been so-called 'Christians' One guy in this one church I went to, attended their youth group, belonged to their bible stugy group and even I sang in their choir. One of the pastors raped a woman...and the church covered it up. On the other hand, one of the nicest people I know is also gay. He even went to Africa for MONTHS, with his own money, to volunteer in an orphanage. ....I take people for WHO they are, not what they claim to be.
 
I find it interesting how gay men seem to get a harder time than lesbians. Most guys I speak to like the idea of lesbians (watch girl/girl porn etc) but are rrepulsed by the idea of gay men :dohh: why the double standard the principle is still the same.
 
I find it interesting how gay men seem to get a harder time than lesbians. Most guys I speak to like the idea of lesbians (watch girl/girl porn etc) but are rrepulsed by the idea of gay men :dohh: why the double standard the principle is still the same.

I find the same too, I know a few 'gays' and a few 'lesbians' and I also find it is the gay men that seem to get the harder time. That is just my experience but I also do think that it is alot of peoples perceptions, like you say I know a few men that love the idea of 2 girls yet repulsed by 2 men and on occasion even refuse to accept it. I don't get the double standards either.
 
I find it to be the other way re gay men having it harder. I think in terms of arousal of a straight man - then yes they will only pick the two girls as their fantasy. My almost 80 year old nan said to me (bless her..she doesn't know I'm openly bisexual) the other day.

"It's funny, I don't have a problem with gay men, that's fine. It's gay women I can't stand. Those bloody lesbo's; it's just not natural."

There was also running jokes in the fsmi
 
i am already bringing my son up to know that everyone is different and regardless of colour, accent, beliefs they should be respected. i am not religious but i believe to gain respect u should give it. i have two gay uncles-their fab. i have a best friend who i was recently a bridesmaid for when she married her now wife and finn has never batted an eyelid to thier relationship, infact he thought thier dauhter was very lucky to have two mammies.

whatever my kids turn out to be-straight or gay-ill love them to the bitter end-because their my kids and thats what u call unconditional love. id support him every step of the way and would turn my back on anyone that didnt.
 
It wouldnt bother me if Rhys or Liam turned out to be gay, my parents might be a problem though
 
Since when did a picture of something mean it once existed... Err probably at the same time that something written down became fact
 
I would love my child regardless of their sexual orientation. I may have a bit if a harder time if they were bisexual but that would be my hurdle to overcome. I would never tell my mother. She is very religious and although she has a lot of "sympathy" for gays and lesbians she gets upset that they can't change. She knows they can't change but I don't even want the idea of sin and hell being transferred to my children in regards to this. Too many gay people have suffered mental illness and self loathing or even suicide for being socially and spiritually ostracised.

In regards to incest, homosexuality is about finding a particular sex attractive.

If you found your child attractive or indeed children attractive you would be mentally unstable and exploiting minors or abusing if you wanted to carry out your desires.

If you found your adult child atttractive there would still be that issue of it being ethically wrong as you would be in a position of power. Like a doctor and a patient.

If two adults who were siblings found each other attractive then 1. It's not the same thing as finding a whole sex attractive. You can't say finding "sisters" attractive is the same thing as finding "men" attractive. In regards to biology. Having children with a sibling is medically dangerous. You can't have children with same sex couples and hence there is no danger to their offspring. Hence it's not the same thing. You can try and say it is but it isn't. Two men can happily have sex for seven months non stop with no contraceptive and ther will be no child that may have a whole list of congenital diseases. Not the same thing AT ALL. I realise it makes many religious people happy to think that it is but the reality is it isn't.

And lastly, the basic reality is, if it's not hurting another being, what consenting adults do is their business. You can think it's wrong and you can have an opinion (I think people who watch x factor are wrong):haha: but it's really none of your business. Even if a brother and sister both had the snip and we unable to have children and were getting it on, it's none of your concern.

BUT an adult exposing a child to self loathing, mental illness and lifetime of depression and mental instability because they are constantly told that their natural and uncontrollable attraction to the same sex is evil and unnatural and a CHOICE is actually other people's business as it is damaging not just an adult for a lifetime but a child who should be protected from such things.

People have been gay in all cultures and in all times and we are learning in many species. If being gay is a choice then what age and time did you personally CHOOSE to be straight? Have you ever rejected your urges and hence choose NOT to be gay. I know I didn't choose to be heterosexual. The inclination took hold around 12 and is still with me.

Love and compassion. Live and let live.
 

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