Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[besthope]

ladies .. i have been taking this vitamin b6 for the past one month now .. some 10 days ago, i had a very heavy period .. the quantity of blood was much more than my "normal period days" ... do u think it could be due to vitamin b6? does it affect the levels of progesterone ... i have been diagnosed with low progesterone levels but surprisingly my GP has not read too much into it and has always ignored it .. also, recently, she has told me that i suffer from PCOS

it is also important to mention that since october 2010 i had an extremely erratic menstrual cycle (read as: continuous spotting which started in the last week of october and was still on until now when i had this very heavy period) ...

in between i had some "slightly heavier blood flow" days which i presumed were my "periods" ... now since this current very heavy period .. i am just waiting that everything stops completely .. it is already my 8th day of bleeding, which from my standards, should have been the last day .. howeever, since i didnt have my period for quite sometime, i am just thinking that it may go for upto 10-12 days and then probably wud stop .. but, i am just not too sure if my spotting would start again?

i am just scared to death with this spotting thingy again .. and dont want this to happen all again .. however, i have learnt to live with this since october ...

any insights into my problems? this forum is of great help .. truly appreciate the time of u all ...

 

[curiouscat6]

Hi ladies,
so great to find this thread

for as long as I can remember, I've spotted about 2 to 3 days before my period. My gyn has done exams/ultrasounds and blood work (testing for FSH/TSH, etc) and after all of that, he has said it's not a big deal. That was reassuring when I wasn't TTC, but now I am.

So, recently my spotting has gotten worse and now I'm really concerned.I've been using the CBEFM for the last 3 cycles and have gotten the egg every time (with 2 to 3 high days leading up to it), so I assume I'm ovulating.

However, last month, I started spotting 6 days before my period (the earliest and longest I've ever spotted before) and then AF came. At that point I started taking 50mg of vitamin b6 daily. Things seemed okay, my skin cleared up and i had more energy, my period got a day longer. but my ovulation date moved back two days. And it felt stronger when it came, I felt achiness on my right side by my ovaries.

Then, last night I started feeling very crampy on my right side (the same side I noticed was achy around ovulation) and noticed some brownish red mucus/spotting after a BM. I had just ovulated on Thursday-- so spotting like this 3 DPO really scares me.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? If so, what happened? I also still feel very crampy--like I would on my period. I know spotting this soon after ovulation is abnormal. I have heard of implantation spotting and ovulation spotting but 3 days falls in between both of these frames so it's seem really worrisome. What do you think?

 

[mom23]

Hi Girls....I am sorry to the new girls...I really don't know enough to answer your questions!!!

AFM....bad news again...I for sure had a positive last tues and friday...and bango last night just before bed af showed again!!! I was planning to test this am! So that is 3cp in the last 4 months!!!

I am also at a loss for what to do...I did get to 11dpo so maybe the bvits helped with that...but still had terrible spotting midcycle and delayed O to cd 25! I don't think I'll take the bvits this month...anyone know what will happen with out them???? I would welcome any other suggestions!!!

Ebony...your chart looks good...fingers crossed for you this month!!

Lyns...I am sorry things are not going well for you...I hope this will be your month!!!

baby dust to all!

 

[kasigirl]

ok ladies! for the last three months my luteal phase has been 7 days generally ovulating around cd 20 of a 28 day cycle. it looks like this month I ovulated on cd 15 or 16 if my cycle remains 28 days I will have jumped to a 12 day luteal phase. has anyone else seen this? a bit of background I stopped bc in september and this I is my 8th cycle trying.

I tried b vitamins but stopped taking them a week ago as they were giving me blurred vision....

Has anyone seen this big of a jump in one month?

 

[ebony2010]

ladies .. i have been taking this vitamin b6 for the past one month now .. some 10 days ago, i had a very heavy period .. the quantity of blood was much more than my "normal period days" ... do u think it could be due to vitamin b6? does it affect the levels of progesterone ... i have been diagnosed with low progesterone levels but surprisingly my GP has not read too much into it and has always ignored it .. also, recently, she has told me that i suffer from PCOS

it is also important to mention that since october 2010 i had an extremely erratic menstrual cycle (read as: continuous spotting which started in the last week of october and was still on until now when i had this very heavy period) ...

in between i had some "slightly heavier blood flow" days which i presumed were my "periods" ... now since this current very heavy period .. i am just waiting that everything stops completely .. it is already my 8th day of bleeding, which from my standards, should have been the last day .. howeever, since i didnt have my period for quite sometime, i am just thinking that it may go for upto 10-12 days and then probably wud stop .. but, i am just not too sure if my spotting would start again?

i am just scared to death with this spotting thingy again .. and dont want this to happen all again .. however, i have learnt to live with this since october ...

any insights into my problems? this forum is of great help .. truly appreciate the time of u all ...

I'm really not sure but I didn't want to read and run. You aren't taking B6 on its own are you? Its meant to be taken as a complex because it can make you difficient in the other vit b's. x

 

[ebony2010]

Hi ladies,
so great to find this thread

for as long as I can remember, I've spotted about 2 to 3 days before my period. My gyn has done exams/ultrasounds and blood work (testing for FSH/TSH, etc) and after all of that, he has said it's not a big deal. That was reassuring when I wasn't TTC, but now I am.

So, recently my spotting has gotten worse and now I'm really concerned.I've been using the CBEFM for the last 3 cycles and have gotten the egg every time (with 2 to 3 high days leading up to it), so I assume I'm ovulating.

However, last month, I started spotting 6 days before my period (the earliest and longest I've ever spotted before) and then AF came. At that point I started taking 50mg of vitamin b6 daily. Things seemed okay, my skin cleared up and i had more energy, my period got a day longer. but my ovulation date moved back two days. And it felt stronger when it came, I felt achiness on my right side by my ovaries.

Then, last night I started feeling very crampy on my right side (the same side I noticed was achy around ovulation) and noticed some brownish red mucus/spotting after a BM. I had just ovulated on Thursday-- so spotting like this 3 DPO really scares me.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? If so, what happened? I also still feel very crampy--like I would on my period. I know spotting this soon after ovulation is abnormal. I have heard of implantation spotting and ovulation spotting but 3 days falls in between both of these frames so it's seem really worrisome. What do you think?

I don;t get so much spotting but on my first month of vit b complex my ovulation was like it had been magnified. I had the cramps and then they went away as though my body had tried to ovulate and then failed, then it tried again and I had spotting and pains shooting down my left leg (the side I'd have the cramping). I am lucky if I ever feel anything usually. You may have been like me and not ovulated the first time but on the 2nd try so the spotting wouldn't be late or if it is brown it is old blood that maybe just hadn't come down straight away.

It is a good sign though as that month I did concieve it ended in a chemical.

Just make sure you are taking vit b as a complex. x

 

[ebony2010]

Hi Girls....I am sorry to the new girls...I really don't know enough to answer your questions!!!

AFM....bad news again...I for sure had a positive last tues and friday...and bango last night just before bed af showed again!!! I was planning to test this am! So that is 3cp in the last 4 months!!!

I am also at a loss for what to do...I did get to 11dpo so maybe the bvits helped with that...but still had terrible spotting midcycle and delayed O to cd 25! I don't think I'll take the bvits this month...anyone know what will happen with out them???? I would welcome any other suggestions!!!

Ebony...your chart looks good...fingers crossed for you this month!!

Lyns...I am sorry things are not going well for you...I hope this will be your month!!!

baby dust to all!

I've had 2 chemicals since the beginning of the year... its awful isn;t it?

I don't know what would happen if you stop the vit b's. I assume you'd just go back to how you were before you started them.

Have you been to see your doctor about the cp's? x

 

[ebony2010]

ok ladies! for the last three months my luteal phase has been 7 days generally ovulating around cd 20 of a 28 day cycle. it looks like this month I ovulated on cd 15 or 16 if my cycle remains 28 days I will have jumped to a 12 day luteal phase. has anyone else seen this? a bit of background I stopped bc in september and this I is my 8th cycle trying.

I tried b vitamins but stopped taking them a week ago as they were giving me blurred vision....

Has anyone seen this big of a jump in one month?

I usually ovulate on CD18 and this month it was CD16 for the 1st time. Its my 2nd month on 50mg vit b complex. x

 

[lyns148]

So sorry to hear you've had another cp mom23, its so unfair. Have you been to see the dr about it? I wonder whether they'd be more likely to do something because of these past few months? I hope you're doing ok.

I'm certainly not an expert on these things but I know how frustrating ttc is so wanted to try and help with a few of the questions...please don't take this as gospel tho!!
besthope - I've always felt that there is a connection between low progesterone, spotting and short LPs but thats just my opinion, might be wrong! When I went to the dr about my problems and mentioned the spotting she said that this was abnormal and even if my prog levels come back ok I think she will be referring me onto a specialist to look into the spotting. Has the dr not said anything about this being unusual?
curiouscat6 - I didn't start spotting until we started ttc so I'm not very sure if longer spotting is more worrying if spotting is usual for you. It does sound like you had a really nice strong O so you're spotting could be related to that and just took a few days to show, but I've never had O spotting so prob best if one of the girls who have had this tell you what they think.
kasigirl - last month my O moved from cd19 to cd15, a change of 4 days the same as you. However my LP stayed short at 8 days so it just meant my whole cycle was much shorter. Fingers crossed its not the same for you though. How much vitB were you taking? Maybe a lower amount would suit you better?

I'm back to cd3 today, have kept with the B100 complex but am trying the agnus castus again. I don't really feel like I gave it a very good go cos I was ill and had delayed O the month I was taking it. Fingers crossed!! Also have the results of my bloods next week, not sure whether I want it to be abnormal or not! If its low at least there would be a reason for everythings thats going on and hopefully there's something that can be done.

Babydust to everyone xx

 

[besthope]

ebony: thanks for the reply .. yes, i am taking this b6 on my own .. i really dont know what to do .. i am just not happy with my GP and thus do not want to imform her that i am taking this b6!!!

 

[struth]

ebony: thanks for the reply .. yes, i am taking this b6 on my own .. i really dont know what to do .. i am just not happy with my GP and thus do not want to imform her that i am taking this b6!!!

I don't know a great deal about all of this but didn't want to read and run. I've just started taking B6 myself but am taking in it in a tablet with other b vitamins in - its called vitamin b complex and it has 50mg of b6 in it. I've heard that it is not good for you to take vitamin b6 on its own as the b vitamins all work together. I would recommend that you switch from the b6 to a vitamin b complex.

hope that helps

 

[mom23]

Thanks ebony and lyns...cp really do suck!! I am not sure why 3 out of 4 months would end in cp!! I have an appointment at the end of the month for a physical with my doctor...I'll talk to her then. I actually called yesterday to try to get in to start some tests..but of course she is away this week on confrence!!! I just find it odd...it has been a year now ttc for this little one...with my other 3 kids never took more than 3 months! I swear it was the mirena that I had a after my last one!

What does the angus cactus do...I wonder if it is something I should look into!

 

[curiouscat6]

Hi ladies,
thanks so much for the feedback. I'm 5DPO and still feeling a bit crampy n the right side though less than yesterday. Ugh, what a horrible day and night... I've never had such bad cramping---but strangely with very little spotting.

As I said before I've been taking vitamin 6-50mg for the past month. But I do wonder if taking it by itself as I've been doing, is detrimental... could it cause ovarian cysts or spotting? I also take a prenatal vitamin with some bs in it so I hope that helps.

Do you ladies take a b complex WITH your prenatal or multi--or just the b by itself?

 

[ebony2010]

Hi ladies,
thanks so much for the feedback. I'm 5DPO and still feeling a bit crampy n the right side though less than yesterday. Ugh, what a horrible day and night... I've never had such bad cramping---but strangely with very little spotting.

As I said before I've been taking vitamin 6-50mg for the past month. But I do wonder if taking it by itself as I've been doing, is detrimental... could it cause ovarian cysts or spotting? I also take a prenatal vitamin with some bs in it so I hope that helps.

Do you ladies take a b complex WITH your prenatal or multi--or just the b by itself?

You need to take the vit b's as a complex or it makes you deficient in other b vitamins. x

 

[curiouscat6]

Great to know. thank you! I live in the states--any product recs? I know some brands have varying levels of B.

 

[lisaf]

Great to know. thank you! I live in the states--any product recs? I know some brands have varying levels of B.

I tried several different brands of B-complexes... the only difference I noticed was with the shade of my neon-yellow pee... the intensity of my pee color (if it was a timed-release), or the smell of the tablets themselves. The last brand I had was so awful it made me stop taking the B-vits
I did well with the NaturesMade ones (I think thats the name of that yellow brand that is really common at most stores). It was just hard to find the exact kind I wanted at all the drug stores so I'd just pick up whatever was handy.

 

[lisaf]

Thanks ebony and lyns...cp really do suck!! I am not sure why 3 out of 4 months would end in cp!! I have an appointment at the end of the month for a physical with my doctor...I'll talk to her then. I actually called yesterday to try to get in to start some tests..but of course she is away this week on confrence!!! I just find it odd...it has been a year now ttc for this little one...with my other 3 kids never took more than 3 months! I swear it was the mirena that I had a after my last one!

What does the angus cactus do...I wonder if it is something I should look into!

I tried agnus castus too.. its also meant to help with progesterone levels. I had 7dpo blood tests every cycle and the B-vits, agnus castus, chinese herbs, and acupuncture didn't have enough of an effect on my progesterone.
I had 2 suspected chemical pregnancies (could never get in for a blood test before AF came... faint lines on cheap pregnancy tests that never gave a hint of a line at other times).
For me, I had to take clomid to make my progesterone go high enough to sustain a pregnancy. I had to see an FS since my GYN wasn't helping.

I didn't have kids before having my mirena put in so I don't know if it was a pre-existing problem. I know I never spotted before AF before I had mirena. I have found a handful of women who seem to have low progesterone after having mirena removed (I have bumped into maybe 5 across the internet... not significant or anything, and probably the same % of the population that has low progesterone issues anyway, you know? They can develop out of nowhere for many women who didn't have issues before).

So sorry for your cps! Low progesterone can definitely cause them (not the only cause, but if you have low P then it can make them happen).
And of course low progesterone will also cause short LPs and spotting.
Here if you want any advice/support!

 

[ebony2010]

Hi Lisa... so clomid did the trick for you? I'm losing weight for my next fs appointment as I have to get my bmi down to 34 for them to give me clomid. x

 

[lisaf]

yeah, clomid worked for me... had to get up to 100mg though.. 50mg didn't boost my progesterone at all.
First cycle on 100mg I got my first ever 'normal' progesterone level and got my BFP (I'd also had an HSG that cycle and used softcups). So its really seemed to be my main issue.

Good luck with the weight loss! They're so strict on that over there!


and vit B has worked for many women.. just saying that it wasn't quite enough for me and wanted to share what DID end up working

 

[ebony2010]

yeah, clomid worked for me... had to get up to 100mg though.. 50mg didn't boost my progesterone at all.
First cycle on 100mg I got my first ever 'normal' progesterone level and got my BFP (I'd also had an HSG that cycle and used softcups). So its really seemed to be my main issue.

Good luck with the weight loss! They're so strict on that over there!


and vit B has worked for many women.. just saying that it wasn't quite enough for me and wanted to share what DID end up working

I had a HSG a fortnight ago. You'd think all they sticky dye would make the egg stick.

They are strict over here but it is totally free so you can't complain really. Also they say that clomid has better success results if your bmi is 34 or under and when funding is limited you can see why they do it. x