Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[LadyLupton]

Hi Ladies,

I've been catching up with this thread for a few days and haven't read all of it, so I do apologise if this extremely basic question has been asked and answered before.

My Q is: What constitutes a short LP? Is it the time from O until you start spotting?

I'll say a bit about what's going on as an example: I got a positive OPK on day 14 (as I always do). Then 7 day later I've started spotting (as I always do). In the past AF comes long exactly 9 days later. As you can see from CD1 to CD1 I have a long cycle an am like clockwork. So, is my 7 days post O the LP? Does the spotting mean my LP is finished?

I've bought some vit B complex 50, hoping the make the spotting go away or come later.

Just for info: I did get preg once (MC) and had no spotting whatsoever.

Babydust to all! And congrats to the vit B BFPs!

 

[lyns148]

Hi ladylupton, and welcome!! I've learned most of what I know about LPs from this thread to be honest. From what I understand your LP is from O until your first day of proper red bleeding, so I don't include my spotting when I'm counting the length. So if AF arrives on 9 dpo that would mean you have an 8 day LP.

There seem to be loads of different views on what constitutes a short LP. But I think anything under 10 would be classed as short, just because implantation is supposed to take place 7-10 days after O so there would not be enough time for this if your LP is less than 10 days. I don't know if others might have a different explanation tho...

I'm in the same boat as you with an 8 day LP, although I've never actually managed to get pg yet. So thats encouraging that you have, but so sorry that it didn't stick Fingers crossed that the vit B will sort you out. Have you started taking them yet? xx

 

[LadyLupton]

Thanks Lyns! I took my first B complex y'day, so we'll have to see. I'll give it a few months and see what happens...

BabyDust to you!

 

[254]

Hi girls (and welcome and good luck to the new B6-ers)!

My period arrived today, so we're onto cycle #9 of trying... but I'm actually feeling OK as my luteal phase was 9 days (just) - to many that might seem bad, but to be it's pretty great as my LP has been stuck on 6 days for months and months! So 9 is a massive improvement.

I'd been on 50mg B6 (in a B complex) for a while, with no improvement... I upped it to 100mg for most of last cycle, but my daughter has also been breastfeeding a lot less over the past few weeks (and not at night at all) so I think that's likely to have been what's had the biggest effect on my cycle. Still, continuing with the B6 and hoping that perhaps my LP will hit the holy grail of 10 days sooner rather than later.

My chart last cycle looks incredibly pregnancy-like, with a beautiful 'implantation dip' of over a degree at 6dpo, complete with some cramping on that day. I have a feeling a wee spermie might've met with my egg and done the business, but that short LP prevented to anything exciting coming from it. Ah well! I'm thinking of the positives... we're off to Canada in 10 days, so I can focus on enjoying our trip without worrying about morning sickness, early pregnancy etc... and I loved my daughter being a spring baby, so now we're into the realms of spring-EDDs again (when taking into account that I went past 42 weeks) which is great.

Any news from anyone else?

 

[buttonnose82]

hey girls!

hope everyone is doing well!

question for you all did B6 bring forward your ovulation too? last cycle I was taking 50mg and I ovulated 2 days earlier than previous cycles and it increased my LP by 4 days! and this cycle (100mg) I think it has brought my ovulation forward again by another 2 days

 

[ebony2010]

hey girls!

hope everyone is doing well!

question for you all did B6 bring forward your ovulation too? last cycle I was taking 50mg and I ovulated 2 days earlier than previous cycles and it increased my LP by 4 days! and this cycle (100mg) I think it has brought my ovulation forward again by another 2 days

It didn;t for me straight away but on my 3rd month I did ovulate 2 days early. x

 

[254]

question for you all did B6 bring forward your ovulation too?

My ovulation day has gradually got earlier over the past few cycles... although I think that's related to breastfeeding and the 'gradual return to fertility' as my 14.5 month old gradually feeds a little less over time, rather than the B6 - could be the same for you?

My recent cycles have been...

44 days (ov day 40 - 4 day LP)
37 days (ov day 32 - 5 day LP)
32 days (ov day 26 - 6 day LP)
33 days (ov day 27 - 6 day LP)
32 days (ov day 26 - 6 day LP)
27 days (ov day 21 - 6 day LP)
31 days (ov day 22 - 9 day LP)

It could be that your increase in LP and earlier ovulation is linked to both the B6 and changes in breastfeeding (especially once your wee one is started food)? I reckon my recent shift of 3 days (finally!!) has more to do with the fact that my little girl decided to stop breastfeeding at night than the B6.

 

[TTC SPOTTING]

Hello. Am new to this Board and wanted to get some feedback. I have been reading it and am it is no nice to know that other people have had my problems, too. Have been TTC for about 4 months. About 8-9 DPO I start spotting, which typically lasts for about 6-7 days before full AF. I am having an HSG next cycle and have recently started taking B6 and Red Rasp supplements. I do not think it is a LPD, because the time between Ovulation and full red bleeding is usually more then 10 days. Has anybody else experienced this and been able correct it ang get pregnant? Thanks for any replies!!

 

[mom23]

hey girls!

hope everyone is doing well!

question for you all did B6 bring forward your ovulation too? last cycle I was taking 50mg and I ovulated 2 days earlier than previous cycles and it increased my LP by 4 days! and this cycle (100mg) I think it has brought my ovulation forward again by another 2 days

My first cycle on bvits my ov moved ahead 3-5 days to cd 17.....but my second cycle on bvits my ov was later...cd 25!!! That sucked. The next cycle I stoped the bvits...oed on cd 20. This cycle...first cycle with clomid oed cd17! Not sure what all that means...

 

[mom23]

Hi Girls....hope everyone is well. It has been a while since I checked in...

Well first cycle on clomid...I oed a little early...cd17....I am currently 1dpo so we'll see how that goes!! The dreaded 2ww! I am going to nyc next week for 4 days though so I am hoping that I will be distracted!!

Lyns...how are you doing????
Ebony and whiteglass...how are you feeling????
Ladylupton....how are the bvits working???
ttcspotting...I am not sure that I can help you ...but there are lots of ladies on this board with great info!
welcome to all the new girls...

baby dust to all....

 

[lyns148]

Hi Girls....hope everyone is well. It has been a while since I checked in...

Well first cycle on clomid...I oed a little early...cd17....I am currently 1dpo so we'll see how that goes!! The dreaded 2ww! I am going to nyc next week for 4 days though so I am hoping that I will be distracted!!

Lyns...how are you doing????
Ebony and whiteglass...how are you feeling????
Ladylupton....how are the bvits working???
ttcspotting...I am not sure that I can help you ...but there are lots of ladies on this board with great info!
welcome to all the new girls...

baby dust to all....

Hi mom23, good news about the earlier O. Fingers crossed its a big one and does the job for you! Btw what was your temp rise like on clomid?

I'm on cd14 and pretty sure I'm about to O. No +ve opk yet but lots of ewcm so its looking good. Need to look into dosage for progesterone cream cos I'm going to use that after O to try and make my LP longer.

ttcspotting - I have spotting too but my red bleeding usually arrives about 9dpo. It sounds as if your LP is longer which is good, but I know my GP was going to refer me to a specialist for the spotting alone so its prob best getting checked out.
buttonose82 - my O moved forward 4 days initially on the b vits, I'm hoping that its a good sign!
pinky12 - how are things with you?????????????????

Babydust xx

 

[TTC SPOTTING]

Thanks for the replies. I started spotting super early this month, which sucked (6DPO). I just got a progestertone draw, I am almost hoping that it shows up really low, so I at least know what the problem is. It seemed that the B6 didnt help at all, only made me ovulate earlier and spot earlier. I am going to see what my doctor says today. Its so disheartening to see all this spotting so early, because I know implantation is next to impossible. My TTW was shortened to one week

 

[~MrsF~]

Hi Girls

I used to frequent this thread a lot and just wanted to pop in and say hang in there, because I found ttc really hard. I had a 6-day luteal phase for months after coming off the pill, i got lucky and had a 10 day luteal phase on about 7 cycle and then stopped ovulating altogether! But then I unexpectedly got pregnant on cycle 9 on day 26 of cycle! Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck and hope your LPDs get sorted soon. xxx

 

[buttonnose82]

hope everyone is ok

I am currently on 3DPO on my first cycle of 100mg of B6, I hate waiting, I am so impatient!

 

[struth]

hope everyone is ok

I am currently on 3DPO on my first cycle of 100mg of B6, I hate waiting, I am so impatient!

Hey buttonnose - we could wait it out together. FF reckons that I am 3dpo today (but I actually think that I am 1dpo as my strongest opk was on Friday which would mean that I O'd Saturday). Actually, thinking about it - that difference could make all the difference if I want to count the length of my LP couldn't it? Hmmm....

Anyway, last cycle I spotted at 7dpo and then AF came on 10dpo giving me a 9 day LP. How about you?

 

[struth]

Ah - just been having a play in FF and if I have another higher temp tomorrow, it will move O to Friday which is more like it! I would have thought it was Saturday as the test line on the opk on Friday was much darker than the control. I'll take Friday though.... I'm just so excited to have finally O'd!

 

[TTC SPOTTING]

Hey everyone, just thought I'd give an update. I am having the craziest cycle. I don’t know what it could be. I started spotting about 6DPO, (May 25th) with a quick bright red gush that went away very fast. I had some very light spotting over the last few days, and now it seems to almost have gone away without my full red AF ever coming on??? I got my progesterone checked on May 26th, it was 22.6 and he said it looks like I ovulated on May 19th and that my numbers were great and prgesterone was not an issue with the spotting. I am confused as to where my full period is, though. Usually after about 6-7 days of spotting, I have a very heavy red flow. Now, nothing. I was taking lots of B12 and B6 this month, I wonder if this had some detrimental affect on me? Anybody else have some odd things happening after yor first month on vitamins? Thanks!!

 

[struth]

Hey everyone, just thought I'd give an update. I am having the craziest cycle. I don’t know what it could be. I started spotting about 6DPO, (May 25th) with a quick bright red gush that went away very fast. I had some very light spotting over the last few days, and now it seems to almost have gone away without my full red AF ever coming on??? I got my progesterone checked on May 26th, it was 22.6 and he said it looks like I ovulated on May 19th and that my numbers were great and prgesterone was not an issue with the spotting. I am confused as to where my full period is, though. Usually after about 6-7 days of spotting, I have a very heavy red flow. Now, nothing. I was taking lots of B12 and B6 this month, I wonder if this had some detrimental affect on me? Anybody else have some odd things happening after yor first month on vitamins? Thanks!!

Have you tested? Is it a possibility that the bleeding on 6dpo was implantation. If I were you I would be testing just to make sure. It might not be (of course) but it would perhaps help you to know?

 

[TTC SPOTTING]

No testing yet. I never ever POAS early because I cant bear it. I will try Sat, which is when I will have officially "missed" a full red flow. I dont feel AT ALL pregnant, just crampy and annoyed and stuffed up, waiting for my stupid period to come so I can start again with another cycle!!!

 

[struth]

Keep us posted then TTC Spotting.

As for me - I am 7dpo today and spotting. Have been taking 50mg b vit complex for about 2 months (I've had a very long cycle!) and so it doesn't seem to have improved my spotting at all. I will continue to take it though as I have heard that it can take some time....