Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[portablechick]

Hey Lisaf
wonderful news! thanks for giving me newly inspired hope

xx

 

[~MrsF~]

MrsF, I get my maca from amazon, its really good and much cheaper than 16 quid a pot! I take between 1500-2000mg a day which seems to be a good amount.

Chrissie, I used to take epo to help with my skin as when came off the pill got bad again and now I don't even need to take it as the maca after about a month has really helped clear my skin up. I'm surprised what a difference its made!

I've just started making a patchwork quilt, just handsewing it, will probably be rubbish but I like to be busy and try new things! My husband takes the mick out of me as I'm 28 and he says I'm an old lady for sewing in front of the tv lol

Thanks ticktock I will check out amazon!

 

[Crissie]

Hey MrsF, oh boy B100 twice a day, I think maybe that's what's making you feel sick. I think I would only take one a day? (remember inkdchick, she suffered from headaches)

But so far I take this daily:

4 x 500mg caps of Maca root
1 x Prenatel vit tab (pregnacare conception)
2 x 1000mg EPO caps untill ovulation
2 x Flaxseed Oil caps after ovulation
1 x B50 complex tab

So I'm rattling but not feeling sick in anyway.

Thanks ticktock, I'm hoping the Maca helps, only been taking 2000mg for 4 days. But I expect AF to start in a day or so, which I think is adding to the skin issue.

 

[Merry]

I'm taking 100mg of my b vit complex, have taken 200mg before ovulation and read some people take up to 300mg! I also take a prental multi vit, vitex before ovulating, 10g of flaxseed oil and cod liver oil. Not really felt sick or any thing due to them.

That little voice on my head is saying, what if I am pregnant. Really don't want to get my hopes up as there is v. Little chance of conciving due to the timings but that what if keeps playing around in my head. Why am I doing this to myself! Guess I just want it so much. Will try to silence the voice and be realistic.

 

[lisaf]

I'm taking 100mg of my b vit complex, have taken 200mg before ovulation and read some people take up to 300mg! I also take a prental multi vit, vitex before ovulating, 10g of flaxseed oil and cod liver oil. Not really felt sick or any thing due to them.

That little voice on my head is saying, what if I am pregnant. Really don't want to get my hopes up as there is v. Little chance of conciving due to the timings but that what if keeps playing around in my head. Why am I doing this to myself! Guess I just want it so much. Will try to silence the voice and be realistic.

The 2ww is the worst part I think. Waiting to ovulate is bad, but your mind goes through so much when waiting to see if you're pregnant or not!

 

[Crissie]

MrsF I can across this post on FF and though you might find it interesting:

'I have been taking extra 100mg B6 for 4 mths regularly now. I started with 50mg for 3 months, and didn't notice much difference. Last mth my usual 8day LP was 12 days! COuld have been the B6, or many other things, or a fluke, but I am continuing th eB6 for now. I have not discussed with my RE yet, but I have discussed with my family doctor, and he did not see an issue with it. B vitamins are excreated in urine, doses of up to 500mg daily for SHORT time periods have been found to be ok. If you do develope any toxicity it will be neurological in nature ususally, i.e. headache, dizziness, blurred vision. At one point I was taking 100mg B6 as well as a VitB100 complex, and my prenatal. I started to get a small headache for about 3 days, and stopped taking the B100 complex and the headache stopped. Toxicity from B6 with neurological symptoms can be reversed by stopping the B6. So I say if you are comfortable go ahead and try it, but run it by a Doctor as well just in case you are on other meds, or have health conditions that do not interact well with extra B6. '

 

[~MrsF~]

MrsF I can across this post on FF and though you might find it interesting:

'I have been taking extra 100mg B6 for 4 mths regularly now. I started with 50mg for 3 months, and didn't notice much difference. Last mth my usual 8day LP was 12 days! COuld have been the B6, or many other things, or a fluke, but I am continuing th eB6 for now. I have not discussed with my RE yet, but I have discussed with my family doctor, and he did not see an issue with it. B vitamins are excreated in urine, doses of up to 500mg daily for SHORT time periods have been found to be ok. If you do develope any toxicity it will be neurological in nature ususally, i.e. headache, dizziness, blurred vision. At one point I was taking 100mg B6 as well as a VitB100 complex, and my prenatal. I started to get a small headache for about 3 days, and stopped taking the B100 complex and the headache stopped. Toxicity from B6 with neurological symptoms can be reversed by stopping the B6. So I say if you are comfortable go ahead and try it, but run it by a Doctor as well just in case you are on other meds, or have health conditions that do not interact well with extra B6. '

Thanks Crissie, thats interesting, I have been having mild headaches so I guess thats what it is. I might cut back to 100mg and see how that goes. I notice your temp went up today?! Think your LP is going to get longer? Damn that spotting!!

 

[Crissie]

Hi, I know! I don't know what is happening with my temps? I even tried temping again after 10 min with my feet outside the covers, in case I was just overheating under the duvet. I was a little hot. But when I stopped feeling hot and temped again and it was still high? Thought wow maybe this spotting is implantation cause it's been a little light (stupid me...Merry I know what you mean by keeping the 'flame of hope' alive). But this morning it's gotten a little heavier.

Think the high temp must be residual progesterone or something

Maybe my LP will lengthen? Still the spotting sucks. I was thinking of trying Vitex? I heard it can lengthen your LP, does anyone know anything about it? Merry, I think I saw you mentioned you are taking it? How much and for how long. Where did you get it from? What's it done?

 

[~MrsF~]

Hey guys I found this article on LPD which I thought was pretty good

https://www.inciid.org/printpage.php?cat=infertility101&id=7

Lists the different causes of LPD.

 

[678star-bex]

what a lot of BFPs this month (not just this thread) but feel that every1 I am meeting on here is moving to 1st Try. congrats again Lisa on here.

i am sure on read on this thread there may be a possibility of too much b vit causing twitching to nerve ending partiularly under the eye ??

I am cautious to up my dosage but i am taking big huge pre-conception pills with everything in. After increasing my LP by 1.5 days I don't want to up to 50mg yet, watch this space.

How r u today crissie? spotting is awful because u know it's on its way. i don't think i could tell if i ever get implantation bleeding or not.

how r u Merry? I would also like to know about maca. what does it do?

 

[Merry]

I read about vitex in my nutrition am fertility book, it said that on trials(published on journals) that it increased the odds of getting pregnant by helping out hormones. I think it helped me this month as I ov. So thing it is worth giving it a go.

I think upping the dosage if your not sure may make you worry and do more harm than good. Twitching is the most common side effect of vit b so if you experiance this cut back
Today I'm ok, a bit emotional which is odd, normally not over emotional buy earlier felt close to tears for no real reason! Think it might be hormones, body so used to progesterone!
Trying not to cling to any hopes for this cycle but still have my fingers crossed in a small way I don't think we should count ourselves out till af arrives but try not to get our hopes up

 

[Crissie]

Hey Merry I'm also feeling emotional today

I think it's onset of AF for me, and I have a serious case of the 'ugglies', with my big red spots that I've tried to cover with make-up.

I agree don't count yourself out till the witch shows her face. Do you know when that will be?

 

[Merry]

I have no idea when to expect AF which on a way makes it worse, according to ff last time I ov. It thinks my lp was 17 days, I don't think that's right. My last two cycles with no ov. lasted 24 and 28 days but my cycles have varied between 14-38 days. So no idea when to expect af and don't k ow when to test incase af doesn't turn up. Got really disappointed before testing on days 33 to have af turn up on day 34. So don't want to test again and get bfns. Maybe I'm feeling low as af is about to start

Feeling quite anxious today for no reason, emailed my husband a few times and he thinks I'm nuts! Wish I was at home with him and not at work. O well need to pull myself together!
to all

 

[lisaf]

Hey ladies, not to fan the flame of hope, but I was in tears the morning of my BFP because it all seemed so hopeless... my temp wasn't up.. DH think he needs some kind of orthodontia work (which means putting TTC on hold as we can't afford both).. just sobbing in general.
Though I've felt 'low' many cycles in the day or two before AF. Just thought I'd share that though.

I tried Vitex for 2 cycles when I was on a 'break' from clomid (you can't take vitex with the clomid). It also goes by the names Agnus Castus and Chaste Berry if you want to research. I was on a lower dose than most of the girls in the Agnus Castus thread on here, so that may be why, but I saw little to no effect.
I mean overall my spotting before AF has gotten shorter or stopped, but I also wasn't sure if that was the Bvits or chemical pregnancies etc.

Oh, and the other day when I was typing stuff on here my eye twitched to the point that I could see my lid popping in the way of my line of sight. Lasted for maybe 10 seconds and has only happened the once. I'll keep an eye on it though! I know from earlier in this thread that Bvits are safe to take during pregnancy and may help with morning sickness so I'm staying on them for now.

(and still don't feel pregnant much at all.. 12dpo today, and super faint line on my 20miu test - if that gives anyone hope).

 

[~MrsF~]

Hey lisaf just checked out your chart, your temp is on the way up again today. I think your temp dip was when the corpus letum (sp??) was breaking down but the pregnancy "rescued" the progesterone and thats why your temp is on the way back up. This is what I was read happens anyway? This make sense?! You are going to have a happy and healthy pregnancy I am sure!!

I have not had any twitching so far so thats good.

 

[Crissie]

Hi Guys

Ok, I'm a little confused by things at the mo. My temp is still above my coverline, AF is due today but she has still not shown her ugly face and I'm still spotting (a little lighter than usual though).... Doesn't look like my other charts, but then again I did O on CD14 so maybe my Luteal Phase is lengthening?

How is everone else? It's very quite today...

 

[Merry]

I did stalk your chart earlier and see that you temp was still high, I think it's a very positive sign. I have my fx that AF won't show her head even if she does the fact that your lp has increased is great and even the spotting is less than usual. So some thing, maybe the vits are working for you

my temps are still the same and skimming my cover line, which is good I think still trying not to get my hopes up but am in a really happy positive mood. Compared to yesterday where I wad near tears! Really strange but don't think it's a sign. I think from looking at my May chart my lp might be 8 days? What do you think? So expecting AF tomorrow or Thursdays though really not sure

How is every one else? Xx

 

[inkdchick]

girls hope you all ok just waiting the week out til sunday really hoping that af witch doesnt show up

 

[habitat]

Hi ladies,

It's coming to the end of my first cycle of taking vit b complex and so far so good. If my opk was positive on cd20 I'm guessing I ovulated the same day (or maybe early the following day)? Last time AF arrived 5dpo so this time is at least one day longer.

Not a single sign of AF yet so I think I'm clear for the next day or two

For those of you wondering, I am not TTC just trying to establish a cycle first as mine is all over the place.

 

[~MrsF~]

Hi All!

Habitat have you got a link to your charts? My luteal phase is also very short (6-7 days) so interested to see how you go. How many dpo are you now?

I upped my maca dose because there is another girl on here who fixed her 6 day luteal phase by taking 3000mg maca a day. I feel fantastic!!!!! If this stuff wasn't so pricey I would take it all the time regardless of TTC! DH said he looked at the label and it has the same ingredients as viagra in it. This true?? (and how does he know the ingredients of viagra?!)

Glad to hear everyone has such positive vibes! We all seem to go up and down with our emotions here! Haha!!