Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[Hope4amiracle]

YAY fantastic news, so the NHS can redeem themseves somtimes

Sometimes

Although I have heard that there is a 2 year waiting list for IVF under the Surrey PCT, so that may be the downfall. But hopefully it wont come to that.

 

[~MrsF~]

MrsF - Whoohoo for EW CM! Bring on O ... in a few days though

Hope4amiracle, how long have you been waiting for the extra tests and FS app? The NHS is sooo slow.

portablechick, when do you get your results?

Anyway, I was thinking it's not going to happen for me and that I would have to sort out my short LP and spotting. I even asked for advice on FF community on my chart and got a lady who's had 5 kids and been on FF for forever tell me she thinks I should go see a doc cause she thinks my progesterone is low due to short LP and spotting. But guess what... here I am in complete shock. So it's never a lost cause. Even if it take a couple of thousand vitamins a day or a Doctor! Our Bodies are amazing machines.

I had my first appointment with FS on the 5th August. I then got my appointment for the lap & dye for the 24th September. Had my blood tests done yesterday on day 3 of my cycle but also need a scan mid cycle. Called to book one but they told me they are fully booked this month. Started looking in to going private and was going to swallow the £252, but when I asked my FS to refer me he called me back and said he will personally perform the scan on the NHS for me this Monday. So I take back what I said. They do seem to be moving things along now. So hopefully within the next 6 weeks or so I will have some answers.

FX that myself, Mrs F and the other lovely TTC ladies can all join you guys on the new thread that Lisaf has set up. Hearing all your wonderful news is spurring me on!!!

Thats great news! Hope you get some answers and be on your way to BFP land shortly!

 

[Merry]

2 years is a long wait, hopefully the won't cut funding to fertility treatments in the new slashing of spending wave. My nhs trust has to save 20 million this year. The nhs is great when you need emergency help, less great when you need help for things like fertility that are important but not life threatening.

My fx for you all

 

[lisaf]

Hope4 - thats GREAT news! So glad your FS is on top of it!!!
I was going to suggest that the scan be ordered under some other diagnosis (painful periods maybe)... as some docs, at least here will stretch the truth to get insurance to cover things.

 

[Hope4amiracle]

Hope4 - thats GREAT news! So glad your FS is on top of it!!!
I was going to suggest that the scan be ordered under some other diagnosis (painful periods maybe)... as some docs, at least here will stretch the truth to get insurance to cover things.

Great minds think alike! That was going to be my next approach!

Just want to say a big thank u to all of u for ur support advice & listening to me feel sorry for myself. It's such a relief to be able to let go of my feelings on here to people who are experiencing the same frustrations & emotions. If I wasn't able to get it all out on here I think i may have self combusted!

Big thanks to you all

 

[lisaf]

No worries!!! This site saved me from self-combustion many times!
If they put you on clomid after all these tests, there's a wonderful support group going over in the LTTC side for girls on clomid.

 

[Crystal25]

Hi

New to this site and hop you don't mind me crashing your thread!

I confess that I only signed up to the sight as I wanted to ask you girls on this thread some advice about vit b

I was on the depo injection after having my son (had 3 injections) then we deceided to TTC #2 - since I have stopped having it I have been bleeding almost all the time, usually a light flow or spotting but never really nothing except the odd day here and there.

I have been to the doctors and was told that as I can't go on the combined pill (due to my mum having blood clots) there wasn't much they could do (have previously been on the mini pill which messed up my cycle so this probably wouldn't help) and to wait 2 months until my smear was due and then see what the result of that was. Since then I have has a clymidia (sp) test, swaps for infections, an internal, an internal scan and 2 smears (1st one had blood in the sample and got inconclusive results, 2nd on came back normal) for the scan i took tablets to stop the bleeding and after i had them i had 2 15 day cycles until it went back to the normal bleeding all the time. For the 2nd smear I had the same tablets and i have just got af after 2nd 15 day cycle so just waiting to see if it stops or just goes on and on and on - if it does will be returning to the doctors again but was told last time I went that it was probably just the depo still in my system and there wasn't much that they could do. They know I was to have another baby but have said i need to be trying 2 years before they would do any tests.

Have been reading your thread and wondered if you thought that vitamin b would help to try and get my periods back to normal (also thinking of angus cactus if any of you have any thoughts on that)

Thank you for reading the longest post ever and any advice would be gratefully received.

 

[Hope4amiracle]

Hi Crystal, I'm not as knowledgable about the b vits so I will leave that to one of the guru's. Have you considered acupuncture, that can be really good to help you get your cycles & hormones back on track.

 

[lisaf]

Hi

New to this site and hop you don't mind me crashing your thread!

I confess that I only signed up to the sight as I wanted to ask you girls on this thread some advice about vit b

I was on the depo injection after having my son (had 3 injections) then we deceided to TTC #2 - since I have stopped having it I have been bleeding almost all the time, usually a light flow or spotting but never really nothing except the odd day here and there.

I have been to the doctors and was told that as I can't go on the combined pill (due to my mum having blood clots) there wasn't much they could do (have previously been on the mini pill which messed up my cycle so this probably wouldn't help) and to wait 2 months until my smear was due and then see what the result of that was. Since then I have has a clymidia (sp) test, swaps for infections, an internal, an internal scan and 2 smears (1st one had blood in the sample and got inconclusive results, 2nd on came back normal) for the scan i took tablets to stop the bleeding and after i had them i had 2 15 day cycles until it went back to the normal bleeding all the time. For the 2nd smear I had the same tablets and i have just got af after 2nd 15 day cycle so just waiting to see if it stops or just goes on and on and on - if it does will be returning to the doctors again but was told last time I went that it was probably just the depo still in my system and there wasn't much that they could do. They know I was to have another baby but have said i need to be trying 2 years before they would do any tests.

Have been reading your thread and wondered if you thought that vitamin b would help to try and get my periods back to normal (also thinking of angus cactus if any of you have any thoughts on that)

Thank you for reading the longest post ever and any advice would be gratefully received.

I had some very wacky stuff go on after I had Mirena removed and its not supposed to cause any side effects after removal. I know depo is notorious for causing side effects and taking up to a year to get your cycle back but I don't really know if it causes constant bleeding like that. I've heard of things like cervical erosion that causes mid-cycle bleeding.
But I'm not clear how heavy the bleeding is? Is it constant spotting? A constant flow? Light? Medium? Heavy? Clots?

I'm happy to answer questions about Bvits and even Agnus Castus, As I tried both, but I knew for a fact my issue was low progesterone after ovulation - I was tracking my BBT, could see ovulation but would start spotting a few days before AF and blood tests confirmed my progesterone was not high enough. I know both are known to help with progesterione deficiencies/short luteal phases, but if anything they help women with inadequate periods have longer/heavier ones because it can help the lining out by lengthening their luteal phase etc.

You might really want to leave your body alone for a little while as both Bvits and Agnus castus have messed up the cycle of some ladies. You don't want to be wondering if its the vitamins or if your cycle would be that wacky on its own. How long have you been off the depo shot?
Acupuncture might be really good for you, but you might also want to try searching the forums here, or posting your own thread asking if anyone else had constant bleeding after stopping depo and what they did to help it!

Wish I knew more about your situation.. this site is a wonderful resource though, dont' be afraid to dive in, or at least search the threads (my advice: use advanced search, and look for 'depo' in the title of the thread)

 

[Crystal25]

Hi thanks for replying. No I haven't - terrified of needles and usually faint when I have blood taken, was okay with the depo because i didn't see the needle but don't think I could go through with accupunture. Maybe if all else fails I might have to resort to it though. At the point where I am willing to try anything to get any sort of cycle. Feel like I can't get on with proper ttc until they are a bit more sorted.

 

[lisaf]

Hi thanks for replying. No I haven't - terrified of needles and usually faint when I have blood taken, was okay with the depo because i didn't see the needle but don't think I could go through with accupunture. Maybe if all else fails I might have to resort to it though. At the point where I am willing to try anything to get any sort of cycle. Feel like I can't get on with proper ttc until they are a bit more sorted.

I understand that... I don't hate needles, but I hate how they feel when they jab me for bloodwork... I can tell you that the acupuncture needles are so thin that I didn't feel them 99% of the time (felt them once I was pregnant though as apparently the hormones affect how much you will feel it).
Maybe try a naturopath and reflexology then? I know my acupuncturist put me on some herbs to 'cleanse my body'. I was nervous to take any herbs on my own, but with a naturopath guiding you I think its safer.

How long you been off the depo?
How heavy is your bleeding?

 

[678star-bex]

Hi everyone :wave: my internet has been down for days on end but im back now.

 

[Crystal25]

Thanks Lisaf.

I have been off the depo for a year (not including the 3 months the Dr told me it took to get out of my system) so getting desperate for anything that will help.

Pretty much spotting or light flow but sometimes a bit heavier. As per my previos post leaving accupucture until a last resort because of my fear of needles.

Maybe angus cactus/vit b is not a good idea if it could possible mess up my cycle more but will defiently try searching for depo on the site.

Thanks so much for your advice

 

[lisaf]

Crystal - wish I could help more! If its been a year since your 'missed' dose of depo, I'd expect your cycle be close to normal by now, so it may be time to try something else and not just see if your body can correct itself.
A naturopath is someone who can recommend a combination of vitamins and herbal supplements to correct issues, no needles.
Reflexology is also non-needles, its all about pressure/massage.

Good luck on the search, let me know if you need help. I did a search, hoping to find a big thread like this one, but only saw individuals posting questions really.

 

[lisaf]

star-bex.. Hi!! welcome back, wonder where you'd got to!

 

[Crystal25]

Thanks again Lisaf

Id expect it to be back to normal by now too but my Dr doesn't seem to care and I have seen 3 differant ones now!

I will look in to the other options you suggested - thanks you.

Also did a search but couldn't find anyone with the same symptoms - seems to be the opposite and have no periods! Think I might jump in and start a new thread.

 

[lisaf]

Definitely start a thread! I found one thread where the main girl didn't say she had your issue, but one of the people responding said she had an 8 month period!

I do hope your doctors are monitoring your iron levels to make sure you don't get anemic!

I had to see several doctors too before finding the right one. Not sure if you're in the US, UK or other... but if you can afford to see a fertility specialist, they will be much better at figuring it out than a regular GYN.

 

[Crystal25]

I have had one blood test and was very low so taking iron tablets.

In the UK and not even sure how to go about seeing a specialist - Drs have mentioned refering me to a GYN but as yet haven't even done that yet.

Going to start a thread now - thank you so much for your help.

Sending you lots of good luck with your pregnancy.

 

[678star-bex]

hello to everyone i haven't met yet. I have really good news (no not BFP yet but working on it)

second cycle using very low dose b vit complex and i have a peak (lh surge) on CD13 (usually cd15) and my temp rose today (CD 14) and last cycle i lengthened my LP by 1.5 days after taking b vits complex. I defo had a 9 day LP b4 b vits.

lisaf, merry crissie how r u all? lisaf or any1 else, can u help me temp? it has been pretty much 36.10 everyday and now day after 1st peak its 36.37 does that mean egg been released?

thank u

chat later everyone

 

[Merry]

Do you have a graph on ff that we could see? Generally a shift indicates you have ovulated but it needsto be a pattern of high temps compared to a pattern of lower ones. Check out ff as they have a gallery of different charts to compare against