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Ali. This is a stupid question, but if I stimulate my ovaries for iui and it fails does that mean i have accelerated the loss of my ovary reserve for ivf?

Its snowing in New York. Serious pain in my right lower back.

Grey eyes. What program are you on to lose wright


Ali I agree we are all hopeful for you!!!!!!
 
Ali. This is a stupid question, but if I stimulate my ovaries for iui and it fails does that mean i have accelerated the loss of my ovary reserve for ivf?

Its snowing in New York. Serious pain in my right lower back.

Grey eyes. What program are you on to lose wright


Ali I agree we are all hopeful for you!!!!!!

Samsfan, I don't know the answer. I would ask your FS about that. It is something I've wondered too!

Thanks for your hopes and prayers!
 
Merry Christmas, everyone! We're Jewish, but I really enjoy the Christmas spirit!

Ali: I'm really hoping for your miracle. But if it's not meant to be this time, you do have the frosties to give you a couple more tries. :hugs:

Sorry I've been MIA, but I've just been recovering from the m/c. The blood seemed to stop yesterday.

My first beta post-D&C was yesterday, one week after, and it was 29. I think that's good. It has to go below 5 before I'll have a period and be able to start TTC again.
 
Merry Christmas, everyone! We're Jewish, but I really enjoy the Christmas spirit!

Ali: I'm really hoping for your miracle. But if it's not meant to be this time, you do have the frosties to give you a couple more tries. :hugs:

Sorry I've been MIA, but I've just been recovering from the m/c. The blood seemed to stop yesterday.

My first beta post-D&C was yesterday, one week after, and it was 29. I think that's good. It has to go below 5 before I'll have a period and be able to start TTC again.

I hope you are doing well! I didn't test this morning :nope:, just didn't want to ruin Christmas for my family. I'm pretty sure it is negative though. I just can't see how it could be positive unless my body can't metabolize HCG in urine. Anyway, I am going to keep my head in the sand so to speak until the 28th.

I'm about to make a chocolate torte (gluten free) and then we are all going to go to the beach! It is a glorious day here, sun is shining, light breeze and its about 75. Couldn't be more perfect!

:hug: to you, and a belated Happy Hanukkah!
 
Merry Christmas everybody.

Ali, enjoy the sunshine and chocolate torte :winkwink:

First Try, I hope you can now begin to heal properly, one day at a time and all that :hugs:

xoxo
 
Hi ladies- I swear I had a huge long to post to you all but just as I hit "post" my internet flashed "unexpected problem has caused windows to shut down this page" Crap. lol...aaarhh! I'll say it with pics ;)

Ali- fx'd for the 28th!

FirstTry- great to hear from you. After my m/c in November 2011 I had AF 4 weeks later and preggo 4 weeks after that. FX'd!!

Babywhisper, Jess, Babydust, Chantal, Alin, Terri, JandK--all you ladies! Merry Christmas ;)




Aeryn's First Christmas Morning


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Kat :)


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Teagen reading Christmas stories to Aeryn


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Merry Christmas to me ;)

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Aeryn all set to go Christmas light watching....


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Grey eyes---- your girls are adorable!!!!!!!!!!

After today I feel:sleep:
 
Coy: all 3 are gorgeous! Teagen is on her way to being a heartbreaker.

Angel: thank you. I'm hoping for the best. Has your doctor come up with any answers for you?
 
Coy your girls are beautiful! I bet they had a blast opening all of those presents! I hope your girls and DH had a wonderful Christmas, and you as well!!

I'm pooped! It was a long day, but a fun one. We didn't get to the beach because my brother was feeling ill. He's feeling a little better now, so hopefully we'll go tomorrow instead!

I'm still not testing, but I think the writing is on the wall. All I feel is AF on her way. I'm still having excess watery CM, and I've had headaches the past 2 days. I remember the headaches last time, and the nurse FS said it was from my estrogen plummeting. I'm also burning up, like a permanent hot flash! Doesn't help that my family has made me turn off the AC either.

Night all.. Merry Christmas!
 
Ali- still got my fx'd but I hear you! I hope you get feeling better, still hope you get your bfp, but you got frosties if you need'em!! Sending HUGE :hugs: your way!!
 
AFM

So my temp this morning was a touch lower but it was cold in here so I wonder if that was a factor in comparing with my other temps? If I put it at 97.5 FF tells me I have a whacky cycle. But if I leave it at yesterdays temp I get my first crosshairs ever! :happydance: So I am going to leave it there and chart today's temp as a fluke and see what tomorrow brings....Hmmm.
 
Ali- still got my fx'd but I hear you! I hope you get feeling better, still hope you get your bfp, but you got frosties if you need'em!! Sending HUGE :hugs: your way!!

Tested this morning.. BFN.. had my mom look at it and we both squinted and held it to the light. She even put it into the pee cup for a little longer! :rofl: Not even a hint of a line! I can't figure it out :shrug: everything was perfect this time around. It boggles my mind that I can't get an embryo to implant! I can't even get a BFP for a chemical! Or a MC! Not that I want that either, but it's odd that in 5 cycles I can't even get that far. Dr looked at my uterus back in Aug and said it was OK. Remember I mentioned uterine scratching a few months ago? I think that is what we need here, and maybe lovenox to help lower any immune response. It will be interesting to hear what my FS says.
 
I'm sorry, Ali. There's still a chance for this month. If it doesn't happen now, I hope the doctor can give you some answers or has ideas about how to get your :cold:s to implant. :hugs:
 
Afm, my bleeding stopped yesterday. I read that you can ovulate two weeks after a D&C, so I'm going to start OPKs tomorrow and jump DH on Fri/Sat/Sun, if I'm not in pain. Does anyone have experience with this? Angel?
 
Ali--- Don't give up hope!!! Still have chance... Sending hugs your way. When are you back at the doctor?

I'm off this week. I totally started detox. Went to spin this morning and took a run with my dog..... feeling better already. I'm starting my vitamins.... and really debating IUI v. IVF... in the meantime I'm really going to focus on keeping healthy and dropping a couple of pounds. Was hoping something would happen this month naturally... but doubt it .

Going to also start taking that temp!
 
Coy, your girls are just edible (dont worry I wouldnt!). I hope you got a chance for a few :sleep: somewhere!

Afm, my bleeding stopped yesterday. I read that you can ovulate two weeks after a D&C, so I'm going to start OPKs tomorrow and jump DH on Fri/Sat/Sun, if I'm not in pain. Does anyone have experience with this? Angel?

Hi FirstTry, yes you can ovulate so soon. I've been at both ends of the scale. They say it takes about 6 weeks for your body to recover but they dont say what stage you lose the pregnancy from that this is the average. For my 2 early losses (6 and 7 weeks) I got my AF within 4 weeks so normal cycle timescale. With my others (3 at 10-12 weeks) it was about 6-7 weeks before AF appeared so around 4-5 weeks for ovulation.

Since my 4th MC at the start of this year I have had quite bad ovulation pains and spotting for one or two cycles while my body was probably settling back down. If any of you have suffered this yes it can be fairly uncomfortable, there were times that I couldnt walk with the stabbing pains. I think the MCs could possibly aggravate my PCOS for a cycle or two so it may be related to that:shrug:

I have been lucky to catch the egg twice straight after a MC so good luck! Most doctors only really like you to wait until after your first AF so dating is easier to work out x

Ali- still got my fx'd but I hear you! I hope you get feeling better, still hope you get your bfp, but you got frosties if you need'em!! Sending HUGE :hugs: your way!!

Tested this morning.. BFN.. had my mom look at it and we both squinted and held it to the light. She even put it into the pee cup for a little longer! :rofl: Not even a hint of a line! I can't figure it out :shrug: everything was perfect this time around. It boggles my mind that I can't get an embryo to implant! I can't even get a BFP for a chemical! Or a MC! Not that I want that either, but it's odd that in 5 cycles I can't even get that far. Dr looked at my uterus back in Aug and said it was OK. Remember I mentioned uterine scratching a few months ago? I think that is what we need here, and maybe lovenox to help lower any immune response. It will be interesting to hear what my FS says.


Ali, :hugs::hugs::hugs:, remember you have your frosties:cold:. I'm not sure if this is a helpful comment or not at this moment but remember that it can take a healthy couple 1-2 years to conceive, so that is 12-24 times trying. You've had a few goes and as shit as it sounds try and remember that it possibly is just a case of 'not your month' like normal couples face. The hell you have to go through emotionally, physiologically and financially though make this journey so much more frustrating for you and I so feel for you and I hope you get your rainbow soon :hugs:. On the RMC thread I sit on one of the girls has beat all the odds with a genetic disorder, major thyroid issues and 6MCs and is now in her second trimester and her mantra is 'HOPE IS IMPORTANT'. I try to remember this in my low moments, I hope it can bring some comfort to others as well.

Huge CONGRATULATIONS on the promotion by the way, well deserved and go you for getting that in such a hectic year personally:thumbup:. Wonderwoman no. 2 (no.1 = Coy! :winkwink:)



Ali--- Don't give up hope!!! Still have chance... Sending hugs your way. When are you back at the doctor?

I'm off this week. I totally started detox. Went to spin this morning and took a run with my dog..... feeling better already. I'm starting my vitamins.... and really debating IUI v. IVF... in the meantime I'm really going to focus on keeping healthy and dropping a couple of pounds. Was hoping something would happen this month naturally... but doubt it .

Going to also start taking that temp!


Hey Sam, yes start temping!! As well as informative I find it addictive and I have really learnt so much about how my body ticks:winkwink:. Go you on the detox already, I've had another major feed today and feel so fat now:xmas14:.


Hi everybody else!!!!!!:xmas3:

Think AF is about to show for me, not too worried as I wasnt trying this month but I suppose I was hoping for a Christmas miracle :wacko::xmas22:
 
Ali- still got my fx'd but I hear you! I hope you get feeling better, still hope you get your bfp, but you got frosties if you need'em!! Sending HUGE :hugs: your way!!

Tested this morning.. BFN.. had my mom look at it and we both squinted and held it to the light. She even put it into the pee cup for a little longer! :rofl: Not even a hint of a line! I can't figure it out :shrug: everything was perfect this time around. It boggles my mind that I can't get an embryo to implant! I can't even get a BFP for a chemical! Or a MC! Not that I want that either, but it's odd that in 5 cycles I can't even get that far. Dr looked at my uterus back in Aug and said it was OK. Remember I mentioned uterine scratching a few months ago? I think that is what we need here, and maybe lovenox to help lower any immune response. It will be interesting to hear what my FS says.

Ali you're not out until the witch comes! Many women feel like AF is coming only to get their bfp. Stay positive and I will send you :dust: from snowy NY.

Firsttry, I am so happy to hear you are thru the worst of it and looking ahead with such a great attitude. My friend had to have a mmc and 2 mos later got her bfp and is due in May! Keep the faith!

Coy - those girls are so cute! Did you get hit with this storm we are getting now?

Afm, just got home and did some soul searching yesterday. I have decided not to do clomid/iui until after dh gets off propecia. Why should I go thru that ane more to help us try and get our bfp while he takes a vanity drug that hinders our ability. I also read some research about a link between clomid and autism. I spoke to my friend who practices TCM (traditional chinese medicine) and she said https://yinovacenter.com/ is the best for fertility. I had my first appt and the acupuncture was different from what I have had before. She has different treatments for the different phases of our cycles. I am cd2 today so she treated me to open energy, promote blood flow to the follicles and balance chi. We went thru my medical history and the food allergies I started with after Lyme antibiotic treatment so she gave me info on how to eat for fertility. I fell into such a deep state of sleep I twitched myself awake 4 separate times and totally forgot where I was. She said AMH is such a new # it is too soon to tell if they can rely on just that one to determine egg reserve. She also has had success with women that got a .16 AMH and had healthy pregnancies. They ask for 3mos without ART and while 3 mos might be a while, it will be the same amount of time for dh's sperm to regenerate. If this doesn't work it will make whatever we do next more effective. In the meantime we are going to see the RE and have her explain what propecia does to sperm, what clomid/iui means for both of us as far as his needing to be around with short notice, what the drug will do to me, the autism link, and other side effects...and if we don't make the most of those rounds we will have to do IVF and she will hopefully explain what that entails for each of us, cost, logistics, side effects, risk of multiples...put it all out there to get him to stop propecia. He still brings it up saying he sees his hair thinning while on the drug. It is the only thing he really has to do that he is against. I think he will be more open minded now that we have the invoice here on our coffee table for that stupid club and the only way for him to proceed without embarrassment of declining membership after all they have done to get us in was to ask me for financial help...so while I disagree with the timing and it will be a lot of $$, I hope now he will realize what I am willing to do for us, what I sacrifice for us when all I ask is for him to stop taking a drug that hurts our chances of getting pregnant...bottom line he will now have to face that EVERYTHING we do we do in our marriage is with and for each other, it takes two...and now he needs to do his part. I mean we are joining this stupid club for his career and for when we have kids....time for him to help carry the load.
 
Babywhisperer--- I had this long post and the computer just fritzed when I went to post. Tell him to get hair implants if its so important. He is so vain and frankly has his priorities mixed up. My DH is thinning and he never mentions it. He is so cute anyway:winkwink:

I checked out the website. I'm also in New York and appreciate a good referral. Let me know how your initial appointment goes. Do they take insurance? Didn't know about the clomid / autism connection. MY friend has trips. They are 3 and they were iui/clomid babies. They are so cute.

I am also considering the IUI vs IVF vs wait 3 months. My FS also said that the AMH is less important. He performed a sono and checked the viability of the ovaries and he said he relies on that test rather than AMH. He relies more on the sono than the AMH. However do to work/life, age and other concerns he suggests we go straight to IVF. Idk. I am more focused right now on healing my body and detoxing as of today:wacko: I figure I have some time before I have to make a decision or start a cycle. I gather they won't be able to start in January since I'm having another sono done January 7th... by then I will be close to ovulating and they will have to start in February? BTW have you looked into grants. I know my place offers grants for IVF. I don't know what that means, but it looks promising. Hang in there and tell your DH that if its that important to get implants and stop playing with drugs that also may cause birth defects.:nope:
 

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