Welcome to 'Trying To Conceive Over 35'

Ali- Yes you are right my RE is an old fart :haha: Shady grove is the best fertility clinic in Maryland and my OBGYN referred him. He was a bit shocked when I told him what he had said about my old eggs. Dh worked for University of MD faculty physicians. Working for a hospital we had great medical coverage. I never had to pay a co-pay for acupuncture and ivf was reasonable. However with his new job insurance doesn't even cover acupuncture. He works for an ins co. now. Go figure!

Coy - please ask your cousin the name of the sulphur based supplement. For fibro I take it vit d, fish oil, magnesium and Brown Seaweed Extract. SAMe is supposed to be good and I sued to take it with glucosamine/chrodrontin but I couldn't digest it.
 
Ali- Yes you are right my RE is an old fart :haha: Shady grove is the best fertility clinic in Maryland and my OBGYN referred him. He was a bit shocked when I told him what he had said about my old eggs. Dh worked for University of MD faculty physicians. Working for a hospital we had great medical coverage. I never had to pay a co-pay for acupuncture and ivf was reasonable. However with his new job insurance doesn't even cover acupuncture. He works for an ins co. now. Go figure!

Coy - please ask your cousin the name of the sulphur based supplement. For fibro I take it vit d, fish oil, magnesium and Brown Seaweed Extract. SAMe is supposed to be good and I sued to take it with glucosamine/chrodrontin but I couldn't digest it.

I just did a 5 second search in Maryland and found 2 University programs.
They may have more of a researched based/liberal view of IVF as they are probably teaching/research hospitals.
Johns Hopkins
Univ. Maryland

Both apparently have IVF programs. Can't hurt to ask. Oh, and look to see if they have IVF trials? The trials are not scary trials where you are taking unproven meds, they are trials where they use different protocols (of existing medication) to see which ones have better outcomes. If you could get into a trial, then it would be free :thumbup: Just a thought. There is a website I've happened upon about medical trials, search for infertility then maybe by state? I can't remember it has been a while since I looked at it.
 
Yes university of MD is teaching/research hospital. SInce our embroys were such bad quality I kind of just accepted last year that ivf didn't work for me without donor egg.
 
Chantal- I couldn't get a hold of her but I remembered it...it is MSM. She said that when she started taking it it worked wonders for her. The magnesium that you curently take is part of it I think. Here is a link to an id on MSM:
methyl sulfonyl methane
https://altmedicine.about.com/cs/herbsvitaminsad/a/MSM.htm
 
Hm. Minor left ovary pain tonight. ...:shrug:.....2WW?

HMM.. EWCM again.. :shrug: By my count I think I should be getting AF around 1/29/2012. I have heard that cycles after IVF are all over the place, so who knows?

Never - I just read on a different thread that there is such a thing as IVF insurance, FirstTry was mentioning it! They purchased it for the year. So that might be something to think about too. I understand your mindset after the FS at Shady Grove said you need donor eggs, but what can it hurt to get another/second opinion?
 
Chantal- I agree w/Ali, a second opinion might be wise or at least comforting?

Ali- Lmbo at your post...ewcm? Yes, I think our hormones are ruling atm!
 
Chantal- I agree w/Ali, a second opinion might be wise or at least comforting?

Ali- Lmbo at your post...ewcm? Yes, I think our hormones are ruling atm!

LMBO - laughing my butt off?

I have no idea what my body is doing to me, migraines, ewcm, then spotting then more ewcm and my need for chocolate!
 
For next cycle I ordered natural progesterone. It's called Emerita. Have you ladies heard of it. I am supposed to take it from day after ovulation. Looking forward to trying it since when I was on prescribed progesterone for ivf I had no :af: cramps at all. I should at least have a peaceful valentine's if I get :af: on Valentine's day. Goodnight ladies and thanks for the encouragement :)
 
Never give up.... I agree with Ali and Grey eyes you may want to consider a second opinion.
 
.......:saywhat:...........

I thought there'd be, like, dozens of pages by now! lol....

K.

Where's Terri?

Hello Angel! :hi:

Ali- that IS odd...you should start charting so I can *see* lol. Go with the chocolate, it is never healthy to ignore a chocolate "want" :winkwink:

Chantal- not sureif I posted last night but the natural supp my cousin took was MSM...have you ever tried it?

Sam- how are you today?

Andra- :hi: :bunny:

Haven't heard from Alin of forEVER...:sad1:

Babywhisperer- how are you? I am going to go find you chart!! :laugh2:

Babydust- I am stalking your chart as well :thumbup:

All you Ladeeez! Good morning or good evening where you are! :hugs:
 
Phil- how are you doing mama? Hope you are recovering and have someone to help out! I am sure DD#1 is a huge help to you! :hugs: :hugs:
 
Phil- how are you doing mama? Hope you are recovering and have someone to help out! I am sure DD#1 is a huge help to you! :hugs: :hugs:

Hi Grey Eyes, Thanks....

Hello Everyone!

this is the first time I've had to jump on for any length of time. Babes is sleeping beside me in a bassinet.... I haven't caught up on all the posts yet, so will do that after if I get a chance!

So - Birth story- Here it is.... I'll smooth over some of the more dramatic details, but know that in the end, the only thing that matters is that Babes and I are both healthy!

So I was overdue and going in and out of early labour for more than a week. At the 41 week mark I was wanting to get things moving along because statistically things start to get dicey at the 41-42 week mark and I didn't come this far only to lose the baby in the end zone.... So we opted for inducing, but started with non-hormonal, non-medicated ways first. So the first thing we did was used what's called Cook Cervical Ripening Balloons. They insert a balloon into your uterus and it sits on top of your cervix and another is placed directly under your cervix in the vagina. Both balloons are filled with sterile saline and the idea is that the pressure between them helps ripen the cervix, effaces it and starts to dilate it.
Babes wasn't down low enough to put continual pressure on the cervix, and because I was in and out of early labour the thought was I just needed a kick start to get things going on their own.
The balloons were left in for 24 hours and overnight I had horrible back labour for about 3 hours or so.... it wasn't pleasant. I woke up the next day exhausted but excited to see if the back labour meant something was happening.... when they took out the balloons, I was 3 cm dilated and encouraged that things were going to start on their own. I did go into labour, but after 3-4 hours I was still just at 3 cm.... so they decided to break my waters - again, a non hormonal, non medicated attempt at jumpstarting things.... when they broke my waters, they discovered meconium in the fluid which isn't great. It means the baby pooped in utero, but it was light and they felt it had more to do with the baby being overdue and not that it indicated she was in distress. The danger is that if the baby inhales the meconium at birth, she could develop pneumonia.

So the labour became more intense and hours later, I was only at 4 cm.... the next check hours later, I was still at 4 cm.... the next check 4 cm..... I was getting mentally and emotionally down at the lack of progress.... so we decided to supplement the labour with oxytocin (same as pitocin) in an effort to make the hard labour I was experiencing more productive. I was moving into my 3rd day of labour, and I was not having a good time of it. Hours after starting the oxytocin, I was still just 4 cm and I was so done.... I couldn't do it anymore. I was exhausted, worn out, tired, and I just needed it to stop already. I ended up deciding to have an epidural because at that point I really just needed to sleep and I couldn't see any other way to get it. Once the epidural was in, the pain was gone and I was able to see straight again. I could feel the pressure of the contractions, but the suffering with the back labour, the hard contractions, was all gone. My mom and dd#1 went to a hotel to sleep for a bit since I was doing well and going to sleep myself. My doula stayed with me. I slept and I don't know how long it was, but it was so good to get some sleep! Suddenly I was woken up by my midwife telling me to get on my hands and knees right away.... the baby's heartbeat was decelerating with each contraction and I needed to shift positions to try and find one that was good for Babes. The midwife called the obstetrician on call and after a few hours of trying to get Babes in a position good for her, the call was made to transfer care from the midwives to the obstetrician. I was now an obstetrics patient. They tried to fill my uterus with saline in an effort to float the baby some, thinking if the cord was being compressed this would help take some of the pressure off.
it wasn't working and I knew we were heading towards deciding to go with a c-section because this baby wasn't coming any other way and she wasn't happy inside anymore....
My doula called my mum and DD#1 to come back, and the medical staff were buzzing around me, gowning up and getting me ready for the impending surgery. The anesthetist was a lovely Scottish gentleman who talked me through what was happening and what I should expect to feel. I was dead weight from my arm pits down. They rolled me into the surgical theatre and I was worried my mom wasn't going to make it. Before I knew it, my mom was sitting over my right shoulder, in gown and mask- all I could see was her eyes. I cried I was so happy she was there with me.
A lot of pressure on my abdomen, a rush of fluid between my legs, and the sweet, sweet cry of my baby filled the air. My mom had made it there with only 3 minutes to spare.
It didn't take long for them to do what they needed to in order to make sure Babes was safe, and then my mom was able to carry her over to me and laid her on my chest ( they were still stitching me up)....
Not the birth I wanted to have.... I really just wanted a totally natural, uncomplicated, uneventful birth, but in the end, I have my perfect baby and the rest doesn't matter.

Recovery is way longer with a C-section. I am not allowed to carry anything but the baby for the first few weeks, and I'm not even allowed to drive my car. I've had to rely on my mom and DD#1 for help, and friends who've come over.... it's hard to ask for help when I'm so used to being independent but I know it's important to let myself have time to heal.

I'm tired all the time and on all sorts of medications. I'm hoping to be off them by the end of next week. But Babes is healthy, strong and lovely. I love her SO much! DD#1 is totally taken with her and has proved to be a wonderful help through all this!
When my DH met her for the first time, he totally cried... it was good to see him finally 'get it'..... He's been to see her a few times and it's given him a new lease on life. All the things I've been saying to him over the last few months are making sense to him now and he's got a new perspective on his addiction issues and what it means to support his family. I am encouraged by his new desire to be a good dad and husband, so we'll see how it goes over the next while. He's more motivated now than ever before to work on his issues and be a good dad and husband. He was telling me about a conversation he had with his sister and he actually told her that supporting him meant they had to support me, too! I was pleasantly surprised at the sudden show of solidarity! I'm liking this new focus of his!

So maybe things are on the upswing!

Babes is fussing now, so should go for now. Will try to catch up on all the posts later if I can.
I think of you all very often and I hope this finds you all doing well.

love, Phil.
 
Aw, Phil, I almost cried!! What an amazing birth story! Yes, all that matters is your little baby is safe with you!:cloud9: I am glad you had your mom and DD with you! :hugs: to you strong lady! That is a lot to endure, days and days of it. :winkwink: Keep us posted on your healing and pics (hint hint, lol).
 
Phil -you are very brave for enduring all that pain for so long. I am happy that you and your baby girl are doing well :hugs: Looking forward to seeing photos.

Coy- thanks on the info about MSM. I did try Glucosamine, Chondroitin &MSM for knee pain years ago but I had it gave my tummy troubles.

Ali and Samsfan - Yes getting a second opinion sounds like a good idea.

Hope you ladies are all having a wonderful weekend :)
 
Ali- that IS odd...you should start charting so I can *see* lol. Go with the chocolate, it is never healthy to ignore a chocolate "want" :winkwink:

I haven't been charting but I have been taking my temp on occasion (not first thing in the morning though). My body temp is still very low, so that means my estrogen is still ruling the roost. I did do a CBE OPK today since I've had 2 days of EWCM, and it has a medium line on it, but didn't give me a smiley. I bet tomorrow I will get a smiley though. :thumbup:

OK so this is going to sound totally :wacko: but have any of you ever noticed that when you are ovulating that your handwriting changes? For me, I find my handwriting looks more bubbly, like I'm happy or something. It has done this for my entire adult life. Between that, the EWCM and my increased libido I always seem to know when I'm ovulating. :haha: I know.. :wacko: right? Time to haul Ali off to the funny farm. :rofl:

Had a great day with my Mom, even if our plans got rained out. We were supposed to go to the Morikiami Japanese gardens and participate in a traditional Japanese tea service. Unfortunately it was pouring for most of the day. So we went shopping instead! I had heard of these adorable mugs that Target was selling for Valentines day, and also a candy dish, and I just had to have them! See attached picture. We'll do the Morikami gardens in a month (they only do the tea service 1 time a month).
 

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Aw, Phil, I almost cried!! What an amazing birth story! Yes, all that matters is your little baby is safe with you!:cloud9: I am glad you had your mom and DD with you! :hugs: to you strong lady! That is a lot to endure, days and days of it. :winkwink: Keep us posted on your healing and pics (hint hint, lol).


Phil -
I DID start crying :cry: (well a tear or 2 ran down my cheek). But good tears! :thumbup: Tears of joy over your success. I can only imagine the agony and delirium you felt during those 3 days of labor. I wouldn't wish that kind of thing on my worst enemy! The best part of the story is that you have a beautiful girl, and that your family may be pulling together again. I hope your DH has finally seen the light and is ready to face his demons and work his way back to you. How sweet an ending would that be? :happydance: I hope you heal quickly and savour every moment with your new little bundle of joy. HUGE :hug: Ali
 
Hello!
I'm new. I'm sorry for my bad English. I'm italian but now I live in USA (Miami Beach) for few months. I hope that these days in USA going to bring good luck in trying to conceive. A big hug

Hi Daisy! Welcome! Your English is perfect so far. I am happy you have joined our group. The ladies here are excellent at providing advice and support.
My best to you,
Jen
 
Ali, I have found Publix pharmacy to be fantastic. They are open until 8 or 9, depending on the store.
 
I love the mugs Ali :) So cute! Target always has such cute mugs and these ones are perfect for you!

Have a wonderful Sunday ladies. I am looking forward to MLK day, having dh home, going to Japanese sushi lobster buffet (will be eating lots of raw oysters Woohoo!) and then going to watch The Hobbit at AMC. I love long weekends! :yipee:
 

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