Welcome to 'Trying To Conceive Over 35'

[Samsfan]

Babywhisperer- Maybe you can inbox me your Docs name. My doc is very well known and I went for a second opinion, who said that they would not change anything in my protocol. I really believe its my eggs. I don't think that I doc can change anything in the result. If I am unsuccessful again, I will go to another doctor. I'm staying right now for convenience.

How are you feeling?

Alicatt- I'm really excited for you! I'm starting my other cycle in June. Next cycle. I've decided to lose 10 to 15 lbs before the next cycle. I've been off the wagon for a while.

Babydust2me- So sorry for the mc's. Did they do all the uterine lining testing? It's obvious that you can get pregnant.

Chantal- Sorry your depressed. I know you are on top of your health, but exercising really helps. Have you spoken to a counselor. That sometimes helps. Just making suggestions and praying for you. Love and Hugs your way.

 

[Slamdunc]

Matin-Good advice. If my results tomorrow morning are pos I am going to schedule a blood test with my Ob this week for confirmation. Otherwise, AF is due 5/2 and if she shows Ill get my answer. Lets hope she is on an extended vaca.

How exciting to be starting for another baby this month. Tons of baby dust!

 

[never_give_up]

Good morning ladies:

Ali -17 days till you are PUPO

Samsfan - That is exciting that you are doing another ivf cycle in June. I wouldn't give up so soon on your eggs. Often the second cycle is the charm. In my case they retrieved 11 eggs instead of 10 the second time but the quality of the embryos was worse since all but one embryo had died on ET day. That's good that you are working on losing some weight, but 15 pounds is too much to lose between now and June. You still need to get good nutrition. That is most important. Maybe just cut out the carbs and eat lots of vegetables, protein and grains. Quinoa is excellent for bringing down LDL cholesterol. Adding garlic, cumin and chilli adds flavour. Oh and don't forget the tapioca for dessert. You don't have to add sugar, just some vanilla.

I haven't talked with a coucellor. I probably should but I did that when I was mugged 4 years ago and got 3 stitches in my neck. May 8th , 2 days before mothers day. The doctor said I was suffering from PTSD and handed me a prescription for some anti-depressants which I never took. I have heard of too many people overdosing on antidepressants. I threw away the prescription and have no desire to see another shrink. You are right exercise is the best medicine. Of course some days I cannot will myself out of bed and just end up going back to sleep which is the worse thing because then I wake up achey and have to rush to get things done because I have wasted half the day sleeping.

 

[JandK]

The doctors office called and I am pregnant. Beta was 21. HOWEVER I started bleeding this morning. The pg test I took this morning was a little darker. The nurse said to go in tomorrow for another beta to see if the pregnancy is gonna be viable or miscarry.

 

[alicatt]

The doctors office called and I am pregnant. Beta was 21. HOWEVER I started bleeding this morning. The pg test I took this morning was a little darker. The nurse said to go in tomorrow for another beta to see if the pregnancy is gonna be viable or miscarry.

FX'd that it sticks! Some bleeding is normal, but scary too! Let us know how it goes!!!

 

[alicatt]

AFM - MAJOR DILEMMA!!!

NK cell testing showed that IVIg was better at solving my NK cell issue. The numbers looked like this:

My blood - 12.4
IVIG - 8.3
Intralipids - 9.9

The number should be under 10, so both IVIG and Intralipids lowered my NK cells to under 10 (from 12.4 which is what it was normally). So ideally using IVIG would be better as it lowered that number further.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM:

IVIG $4800 per month
Intralipids $250 per month

$4800 is a big pill to swallow (metaphorically speaking). Which one makes more sense? I would hate to dump $4800 down the drain

Anyone feel like weighing in and helping me decide?

 

[melly2]

AFM - MAJOR DILEMMA!!!

NK cell testing showed that IVIg was better at solving my NK cell issue. The numbers looked like this:

My blood - 12.4
IVIG - 8.3
Intralipids - 9.9

The number should be under 10, so both IVIG and Intralipids lowered my NK cells to under 10 (from 12.4 which is what it was normally). So ideally using IVIG would be better as it lowered that number further.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM:

IVIG $4800 per month
Intralipids $250 per month

$4800 is a big pill to swallow (metaphorically speaking). Which one makes more sense? I would hate to dump $4800 down the drain

Anyone feel like weighing in and helping me decide?

I would go with Intra, because it still puts you under 10. But then again, I'm a known cheap ass, so I'll always opt for the cheaper route. As long as it yields the results, that's what I would do.

 

[alicatt]

AFM - MAJOR DILEMMA!!!

NK cell testing showed that IVIg was better at solving my NK cell issue. The numbers looked like this:

My blood - 12.4
IVIG - 8.3
Intralipids - 9.9

The number should be under 10, so both IVIG and Intralipids lowered my NK cells to under 10 (from 12.4 which is what it was normally). So ideally using IVIG would be better as it lowered that number further.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM:

IVIG $4800 per month
Intralipids $250 per month

$4800 is a big pill to swallow (metaphorically speaking). Which one makes more sense? I would hate to dump $4800 down the drain

Anyone feel like weighing in and helping me decide?

I would go with Intra, because it still puts you under 10. But then again, I'm a known cheap ass, so I'll always opt for the cheaper route. As long as it yields the results, that's what I would do.

Ya.. I'm waffling. Trying to decide which I would rather do. A woman on the IVF threads said she had elevated NK cells and she did steroids? I'm wondering if I could do a combo of intralipids and steroids? Although I don't think I want to be on steroids for 3-4 months either. I'm already overweight, that would just put me over the edge!

 

[Grey Eyes]

Ladies!!!!

Hiya! I missed you all, sorry I have been MIA lately, lots going on.
K, I need WORD lol!
Ali- what's up with the NK's? ?Dirty little fuzzballs, I wanna knock'em out!

JandK- how are you today? Did you get word back from your doc yet?

Babywhisperer- how are you feeling? MS improving at all?

Chantal - how are you?

Sams- nuts for showing up....are you going to do IVF this next cycle or.......?

Angel- hello lady! how's babes?

AFM- doing great, been super busy and took some time off the computer- had a couple super easy weeks in school so just took the time off...missed you all!

 

[JandK]

Ladies!!!!

Hiya! I missed you all, sorry I have been MIA lately, lots going on.
K, I need WORD lol!
Ali- what's up with the NK's? ?Dirty little fuzzballs, I wanna knock'em out!

JandK- how are you today? Did you get word back from your doc yet?

Babywhisperer- how are you feeling? MS improving at all?

Chantal - how are you?

Sams- nuts for showing up....are you going to do IVF this next cycle or.......?

Angel- hello lady! how's babes?

AFM- doing great, been super busy and took some time off the computer- had a couple super easy weeks in school so just took the time off...missed you all!

The labs said I had a positive test with Beta 21 but I started bleeding today, so i am retesting tomorrow to see if it is sticking. Glad to hear you are doing good Coy

 

[alicatt]

Ladies!!!!

Hiya! I missed you all, sorry I have been MIA lately, lots going on.
K, I need WORD lol!
Ali- what's up with the NK's? ?Dirty little fuzzballs, I wanna knock'em out!

JandK- how are you today? Did you get word back from your doc yet?

Babywhisperer- how are you feeling? MS improving at all?

Chantal - how are you?

Sams- nuts for showing up....are you going to do IVF this next cycle or.......?

Angel- hello lady! how's babes?

AFM- doing great, been super busy and took some time off the computer- had a couple super easy weeks in school so just took the time off...missed you all!

The labs said I had a positive test with Beta 21 but I started bleeding today, so i am retesting tomorrow to see if it is sticking. Glad to hear you are doing good Coy

Fingers crossed that it sticks..

 

[alicatt]

AFM - stupid FS office didn't call me back I'm trying to figure out if I should do the expensive thing or the inexpensive thing or whether we can do some combination of the 2? Only a lower dose of the expensive one? Or whether there are other meds I can take that are cheaper?

I'm thinking that I'll go with the IVIg this month and git 'r done. Go big or go home right? Then cross the bridge of whether to do the IVIg or Intralipids if/when I get pregnant.

I'm going to call my Mom here in a bit to get her advice.. $20K for 160ml of liquid is just a wee bit pricey in my estimation! That stuff is more expensive than gold I think!

 

[melly2]

AFM - MAJOR DILEMMA!!!

NK cell testing showed that IVIg was better at solving my NK cell issue. The numbers looked like this:

My blood - 12.4
IVIG - 8.3
Intralipids - 9.9

The number should be under 10, so both IVIG and Intralipids lowered my NK cells to under 10 (from 12.4 which is what it was normally). So ideally using IVIG would be better as it lowered that number further.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM:

IVIG $4800 per month
Intralipids $250 per month

$4800 is a big pill to swallow (metaphorically speaking). Which one makes more sense? I would hate to dump $4800 down the drain

Anyone feel like weighing in and helping me decide?

I would go with Intra, because it still puts you under 10. But then again, I'm a known cheap ass, so I'll always opt for the cheaper route. As long as it yields the results, that's what I would do.

Ya.. I'm waffling. Trying to decide which I would rather do. A woman on the IVF threads said she had elevated NK cells and she did steroids? I'm wondering if I could do a combo of intralipids and steroids? Although I don't think I want to be on steroids for 3-4 months either. I'm already overweight, that would just put me over the edge!

Oh...are the NK cells antibodies? I've ready in a book, "Making babies" that said steroids (for only a few days during the cycle) seems to be the cure for that...if we're referring to antibodies.

 

[Babywhisperer]

AFM - stupid FS office didn't call me back I'm trying to figure out if I should do the expensive thing or the inexpensive thing or whether we can do some combination of the 2? Only a lower dose of the expensive one? Or whether there are other meds I can take that are cheaper?

I'm thinking that I'll go with the IVIg this month and git 'r done. Go big or go home right? Then cross the bridge of whether to do the IVIg or Intralipids if/when I get pregnant.

I'm going to call my Mom here in a bit to get her advice.. $20K for 160ml of liquid is just a wee bit pricey in my estimation! That stuff is more expensive than gold I think!

If you can afford it do it. You will always doubt yourself if you go the more affordable route and it doesn't work. Give yourself the best fighting chance or else why bother right? If it would be a financial burden then do what you can afford knowing that both helped get you under the necessary threshold.

Heh Coy, no ms to speak of. Actually no symptoms since Sunday which of course has me paranoid. The nurse said its totally normal for symptoms to come and go. I guess I have no choice but to wait until the 8th and pray its still growing.

Chantal, I think if your mood doesn't improve after adequate time for your hormones to get back to normal maybe you should speak to someone. The repeated loss and cycle of grief on top of the fibro might just be too much for anyone to handle. Do whatever you need to an know that we are here and sending you healing hugs!

J and K I hope tomorrow's beta shows a healthy incline. The beginning is fraught with anxiety. I'm a neurotic mess poas every few days and checking symptoms. There is nothing you can do to alter the course so you just have to have faith. I will say a prayer. Come on this is a lucky thread!! Stay positive.

Afm, nada. No symptoms. Boobs feel less sore, no cramping since the weekend and nothing new to report. I'm desperately hoping this is a healthy growing bean.

 

[alicatt]

Oh...are the NK cells antibodies? I've ready in a book, "Making babies" that said steroids (for only a few days during the cycle) seems to be the cure for that...if we're referring to antibodies.

NK cells are part of your immune system. They are usually good to have! They are the first responders to infection and cancer. So supposedly that means my immune system is hyper vigilant and ready to fight. The downside is that they see embryo's as being foreign and attack! So if we can suppress them enough they will be unable to attack. Or so I have been told. The entire thing seems to be quite bizarre!

I'm going to take some time either tonight or tomorrow morning to read up on them again and try to make an educated guess as to what we should do.

Right now I have a horrible migraine and I'm absolutely exhausted. So I'm going to go watch some TV (on low) and go to bed.

BabyWhisperer - I can afford it, I just think that 20K for 1600ml of liquid is insane!!! I mean that is 1 year of nanny service or a good start to a college fund!! So that is what I'm struggling with. The thing is that if I don't do anything I won't have a baby so I won't need a nanny or a college fund! So I think I'm going to have to go for the gusto and spend the money, but at the same time it just really irks me! As I said above I'm going to see if I can't find some alternative medicince that we could maybe combine with the intralipids and possibly get the same result. Maybe I'll find something Course then I will have to sell the idea to my FS. He is open minded, but he won't agree to anything without doing his own research and even in some cases contacting the physicians performing the new protocols, which all takes time and I literally have to make a decision by noon tomorrow!

to you all... JandK I'm thinking of your little bean and hoping and praying it sticks!!

 

[melly2]

AFM - MAJOR DILEMMA!!!

NK cell testing showed that IVIg was better at solving my NK cell issue. The numbers looked like this:

My blood - 12.4
IVIG - 8.3
Intralipids - 9.9

The number should be under 10, so both IVIG and Intralipids lowered my NK cells to under 10 (from 12.4 which is what it was normally). So ideally using IVIG would be better as it lowered that number further.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM:

IVIG $4800 per month
Intralipids $250 per month

$4800 is a big pill to swallow (metaphorically speaking). Which one makes more sense? I would hate to dump $4800 down the drain

Anyone feel like weighing in and helping me decide?

I would go with Intra, because it still puts you under 10. But then again, I'm a known cheap ass, so I'll always opt for the cheaper route. As long as it yields the results, that's what I would do.

Ya.. I'm waffling. Trying to decide which I would rather do. A woman on the IVF threads said she had elevated NK cells and she did steroids? I'm wondering if I could do a combo of intralipids and steroids? Although I don't think I want to be on steroids for 3-4 months either. I'm already overweight, that would just put me over the edge!

Oh...are the NK cells antibodies? I've ready in a book, "Making babies" that said steroids (for only a few days during the cycle) seems to be the cure for that...if we're referring to antibodies.

That's interesting. There's so much information out there, it's hard to make a decision, I'm sure. Oddly enough, I had a dream about you and the NK cells. I don't recall the outcome, but it's funny that I had a dream about it. You will make the right decision, that I am sure of.

 

[alicatt]

That's interesting. There's so much information out there, it's hard to make a decision, I'm sure. Oddly enough, I had a dream about you and the NK cells. I don't recall the outcome, but it's funny that I had a dream about it. You will make the right decision, that I am sure of.

HEHE I'm sorry I didn't mean to invade your dreams!

I have made a decision. With the help of my Mom, we're doing the IVIg at least this month and we'll figure out what we want to do next month (if I'm pregnant).

The woman on the IVF forum that did the steroids just found out that she's probably going to MC as there is only a sac and nothing else So I think I'm making the right decision. Yes it is costly $$ but it is the most effective from what I have read. Plus it is the only one that has had any sort of randomized trial, the others (steroids, intralipids, TNF-alpha drugs) have not had as much research done. So while it is supremely expensive, it is the most recommended route I'm very blessed to have an incredible Mom that is willing to help me on this journey. She is absolutely amazing. I only wish I could be with her this Mother's day. I will work with my brother to get her a beautiful arrangement for Mother's day, although it will not come close to what she deserves!

Off now to my acupuncture appt, then working the late shift (in front of the TV so I can watch the Leafs in the playoffs)!!


to all you ladies!!!

 

[JandK]

So Im still getting a positive pregnancy test, and I am still on my period. The line gets a little darker every day. I am going in for my second Beta test today. Then a 1pm accupuncture appointment. Im glad my job is being so understanding. I am a complete nut job. I think you are making the right decision Ali. Even though the price is ungodly you dont want to have a lot of what ifs when you are already putting out a lot of money.

 

[Babywhisperer]

So Im still getting a positive pregnancy test, and I am still on my period. The line gets a little darker every day. I am going in for my second Beta test today. Then a 1pm accupuncture appointment. Im glad my job is being so understanding. I am a complete nut job. I think you are making the right decision Ali. Even though the price is ungodly you dont want to have a lot of what ifs when you are already putting out a lot of money.

Some women get af in early pregnancy, I hope your beta rises nicely.

Afm, I spoke too soon. Had some heartburn yesterday and I was queasy when I was laying in bed this morning. It subsides when I start to move around. So hopefully that's all I get. Other than that still have a stuffy nose and veiny swollen boobs but they don't hurt much. I'm not really cramping anymore maybe just a tinge here and there but not like it was. Nothing I can do but wait until a week from tomorrow to see if there is a heartbeat and rising beta. There has def been an uptick in hunger some days, others nothing appeals to me. Today and last night my stomach was growling for food.

Having a baby shower for a coworker in the office today. We have raised over 4k for her. She's also getting married. She found out she was pregnant the day after she ordered her wedding dress!!!

How is everyone else? Chantal? Coy? Angel? Melly? Babydust?

 

[alicatt]

So Im still getting a positive pregnancy test, and I am still on my period. The line gets a little darker every day. I am going in for my second Beta test today. Then a 1pm accupuncture appointment. Im glad my job is being so understanding. I am a complete nut job. I think you are making the right decision Ali. Even though the price is ungodly you dont want to have a lot of what ifs when you are already putting out a lot of money.

As BabyWhisperer said, it is normal to get a period at the beginning. It really isn't a period so much as implantation spotting. As long as your BETA is rising, then you should be good to go! FX'd that your BETA is good when you get the results!