Welcome to 'Trying To Conceive Over 35'

[alicatt]

OK...I am still hoping that this TTC happens the natural way. Am I being naive? It seems to me that everyone participating in this thread is doing a whole lot mre than I am to make it happen. I got really frustrated last month when it didn't happen...REALLY frustrated...and I didn't want to do anything this month because I didn't want to get my hopes up and feel the way I did last month. And sure enough, when AF came, I was disappointed but I wasn't as disappointed as I was last month.
Mentally I decided that if I dodn't do anything and I didn't get PG, then there was nothing to be upset about. I want a baby really bad, but as I read through the posts I start to wonder if I am fooling myself. As bad as I want a baby, I don't seem to be doing much in the way of TTC. Does this mean that I must not really want it that bad? Or that I am just a hormonal female that is currently a little emotional for no good reason?

ARGH!

AWW.. I'm sorry you are feeling that way Jess! No fun to be second guessing yourself and so on. I bet a little of your confusion is being brought on by the evil she definitely messes with my emotions

I don't know what the consensus is for women over 35 that are in relationships (since I'm single I'm kind of in a special cases section). But I guess my feelings coming into this were, that hey.. I'm 39, and that means there are all sorts of other potential obstacles to getting pregnant. Don't get me wrong, some women are perfectly fine and have babies into their early 40s without any help at all. I just wanted to know what I was facing up front, I am like that with most things in my life. I don't like unknowns, as I can't fix an unknown

So I think you need to do some soul searching, and decide what you will and will not do to have a baby. This will likely entail talking to your BF and seeing what his comfort zone is with all of this. Do you want to just keep doing things naturally? Do you want to see if there are any issues with fertility? Do you want to see a FS and try IUI? Then depending on what you decide, I would get moving

Bear in mind that it took me about 2-3 months to get from "ohh.. I seriously want to have a baby" until today, maybe with one in the oven! So the sooner you make your decisions the sooner you can get on that track to success!!!

We are here for you

 

[alicatt]

how soon can a chart start looking triphasic im only 7dpo but keeps going up in steps what do you girls think does it have to be a big drop/rise

It looks good to me! I guess you just need to give it a little more time to see if your temps stay as high as they are

 

[alin3boys]

my temps are actually lower than normally are as normally around 36.70 - 37+

 

[alicatt]

my temps are actually lower than normally are as normally around 36.70 - 37+

HMM.. I always need to convert to Fahrenheit
Tri-phasic is a symptom of the increase in progesterone that kicks in at a higher gear once HCG is present in your blood, which only happens if you implant. So, with all of that said, you are 7DPO, which is right around when implantation occurs. So I think it is possible that things are gg. Are you testing at an earlier time or perhaps going to be later, or using a new thermometer? All of these things can change your temps. I think the important thing is that they are getting higher! That is a good sign

I'm still a novice on charting so maybe I should let Coy help? She is our expert

 

[Grey Eyes]

OK...I am still hoping that this TTC happens the natural way. Am I being naive? It seems to me that everyone participating in this thread is doing a whole lot mre than I am to make it happen. I got really frustrated last month when it didn't happen...REALLY frustrated...and I didn't want to do anything this month because I didn't want to get my hopes up and feel the way I did last month. And sure enough, when AF came, I was disappointed but I wasn't as disappointed as I was last month.
Mentally I decided that if I dodn't do anything and I didn't get PG, then there was nothing to be upset about. I want a baby really bad, but as I read through the posts I start to wonder if I am fooling myself. As bad as I want a baby, I don't seem to be doing much in the way of TTC. Does this mean that I must not really want it that bad? Or that I am just a hormonal female that is currently a little emotional for no good reason?

ARGH!

I would venture to say its a combination of several things...Hormones, yes, they are always a damnable issue But your BF isn't too keen on participating wholeheartedly from what you say and that automatically will put a damper on things...stress of a potential new job...and the biggy- the idea of "failing" for another month really hurts! But it is best to not view it as failing- this isn't anything to do with wether you are doing enough. If you are dtd then you're in the game, so to speak. But if BF's little dudes aren't swimming right, or if you maybe have a blocked fallopian tube, or stubborn eggs...those can all play a factor. You shouldn't feel the need to "do extra" beyond what you are comfortable with. I didn't do the IUI of IVF but that's because I got prego by some miracle the first month we tried which totally blew my mind. It can happen. I say you should go ahead with whatever your heart is telling yout o do. If you want to take additional steps, then take them- or if you want to take some "time off" so to speak- do it! Whatever you are happy with is what will make you more receptive to a bfp when it happens

 

[alin3boys]

if anything i am going to bed earlier but always test around same time i have changed to Fahrenheit if u want to take a peak

 

[alicatt]

if anything i am going to bed earlier but always test around same time i have changed to Fahrenheit if u want to take a peak

I don't know Alin3boys!! I am such a newbie with charting! I used their Chart Search and searched for charts like mine and looked to see whether they were lucky and got a and if so when?

That is what helped me

 

[AngelSerenity]

FirstTry - have you done a HPT? The reason I say is even if it is an early MC there will still be pregnancy hormones present. That way you might know if it is a MC or perhaps something else (altough I wouldnt know what)

Plus, I hope this reassures you and doesnt have the opposite effect and upset, but if it is a chemical or early MC, ie you're not due your AF, or are due in the next few days I would doubt that there would be much to pass. It should just be like a normal AF with perhaps a few small clots. Most of my MCs have been at 8-10 weeks but I did have one at 6 weeks and TBH if I hadnt known I was pregnant I would have just thought it was a slightly heavier period.

Hope that helps xo

FirstTry, like they said yesterday ICs aren't that accurate. I dont normally get a BFP until at least 20DPO. Don't want to get your hopes up so I hope you get your answers quickly xo

Thank you, Angel. This morning I have menstral cramps, so I guess it's just AF 5-6 days early. I still wonder whether it was a chemical. Does a chemical pregnancy end in AF coming early?

TMI WARNING!!!!

I just had big bloody chunks come out. I think it's an early MC. Does anyone know about this stuff? I had sharp pains yesterday, that were different from menstrual cramps.

AWW.. Apple, that is just not fair! So sorry I have had that happen to me in the past, but have not known what it was? Maybe? Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can say for sure?

If what you are having is indeed a miscarriage, then it could have been caused by low progesterone levels. I read somewhere that a sign of low progesterone is spotting the few days before you are to get your period. Which I do on occasion.

My Dr. prescribed progesterone suppositories (they are gross), from 2DPO and they are supposed to make your lining thick and inviting for implantation, and stop miscarriages from occurring. I figure that if the end result is a then the progesterone suppository grossness and the side effects will be worth it in the end.

BIG to my 2WW buddy!!!

Thank you, Ali. I had asked the RE about the spotting last week, but he said it wasn't necessarily related to progesterone. In fact, he said my 15-16 day luteal phase pointed to no progesterone issue (though I'm not sure he realized I was including the 5 days of spotting in that).

Anyway, I emailed the nurse and am waiting to hear back. The good news, if it was an early MC, is that sperm met egg!!! That would be the first time in 6 months of trying, with really only the last 3 months of paying attention to timing...I'll call it 3 months of trying.

Thank you for the hugs. It's a confusing moment. Still hoping for the best for you, TWW buddy

 

[AngelSerenity]

Jess - I totally agree with Coy, although I'm gong to take the lighthearted aproach.

Perhaps it's just the rest of us that are a bit and you're taking the nice relaxed approach. Which as we all know is probably better for your body anyway.

I only started charting after my 3rd MC. I try not to get obsessive over it but yes, come 8DPO I analyse like mad...

And I truely believe you wouldnt be on here at all if you didnt want your rainbow baby xo

OK...I am still hoping that this TTC happens the natural way. Am I being naive? It seems to me that everyone participating in this thread is doing a whole lot mre than I am to make it happen. I got really frustrated last month when it didn't happen...REALLY frustrated...and I didn't want to do anything this month because I didn't want to get my hopes up and feel the way I did last month. And sure enough, when AF came, I was disappointed but I wasn't as disappointed as I was last month.
Mentally I decided that if I dodn't do anything and I didn't get PG, then there was nothing to be upset about. I want a baby really bad, but as I read through the posts I start to wonder if I am fooling myself. As bad as I want a baby, I don't seem to be doing much in the way of TTC. Does this mean that I must not really want it that bad? Or that I am just a hormonal female that is currently a little emotional for no good reason?

ARGH!

I would venture to say its a combination of several things...Hormones, yes, they are always a damnable issue But your BF isn't too keen on participating wholeheartedly from what you say and that automatically will put a damper on things...stress of a potential new job...and the biggy- the idea of "failing" for another month really hurts! But it is best to not view it as failing- this isn't anything to do with wether you are doing enough. If you are dtd then you're in the game, so to speak. But if BF's little dudes aren't swimming right, or if you maybe have a blocked fallopian tube, or stubborn eggs...those can all play a factor. You shouldn't feel the need to "do extra" beyond what you are comfortable with. I didn't do the IUI of IVF but that's because I got prego by some miracle the first month we tried which totally blew my mind. It can happen. I say you should go ahead with whatever your heart is telling yout o do. If you want to take additional steps, then take them- or if you want to take some "time off" so to speak- do it! Whatever you are happy with is what will make you more receptive to a bfp when it happens

 

[FirstTry]

FirstTry, like they said yesterday ICs aren't that accurate. I dont normally get a BFP until at least 20DPO. Don't want to get your hopes up so I hope you get your answers quickly xo

Thank you, Angel. This morning I have menstral cramps, so I guess it's just AF 5-6 days early. I still wonder whether it was a chemical. Does a chemical pregnancy end in AF coming early?

TMI WARNING!!!!

I just had big bloody chunks come out. I think it's an early MC. Does anyone know about this stuff? I had sharp pains yesterday, that were different from menstrual cramps.

What dpo are you again? Early mc is possible but sometimes your body retains lining fromt he previous month and excretes it alltogether I used to have that ocassionally with AF. I have also had an ealry mc years ago and had a lot of heavy bleeding and cramping with it. If you have taken an hpt it should have shown a positive right? If you had implanted?

I'm 11dpo. My IC this morning was negative. The big chunk was the size of a smashed grape. No more bleeding after that, just continued cramping. We'll see what tomorrow holds.

I'm sorry, everyone, for the graphic details. I was a bit freaked out. The nurse doesn't think it was a MC because she said it wouldn't be big enough at 11dpo, but she couldn't say for sure. I still don't know what to think.

 

[Philomena]

Not dead. More tomorrow!
-Phil.

 

[alin3boys]

Lol phil,we were beginning to wonder

 

[alicatt]

Not dead. More tomorrow!
-Phil.

glad you are ok!

 

[alicatt]

Darnit! The elusive is still hiding.
I really feel like AF is here, probably the only reason it hasn't come is because I'm taking the progesterone suppositories.
Off to the FS shortly for my beta.

 

[FirstTry]

Darnit! The elusive is still hiding.
I really feel like AF is here, probably the only reason it hasn't come is because I'm taking the progesterone suppositories.
Off to the FS shortly for my beta.

FX'd!

 

[jm1355]

Darnit! The elusive is still hiding.
I really feel like AF is here, probably the only reason it hasn't come is because I'm taking the progesterone suppositories.
Off to the FS shortly for my beta.

My FX'd too!!

 

[alicatt]

Darnit! The elusive is still hiding.
I really feel like AF is here, probably the only reason it hasn't come is because I'm taking the progesterone suppositories.
Off to the FS shortly for my beta.

My FX'd too!!

I will know by 2-3 EST what the answer is. I just wish I had an inkling of what it might be. I really don't have a clue!!!

 

[alicatt]

How is everyone else doing today? I hope things are good

The past hour has been soooooo long. I feel like it should be 6pm already. I am anxious and sooooo tired. I have no idea what to think/feel. My temps point to pregnancy, but my symptoms point to AF.

I was reading about BETA testing at 11-12 DPO and it sounds like they are often pretty low! The average/mean? Can't remember which was around 37. That is not even high enough to register on some HPTs (if it were a urine count) since some HPTs don't register until 50. So it is no wonder I haven't had a Positive HPT. HMM.. maybe they use different scales? I wonder. HMM..

Well whatever it is, I am going to be OK with it. It would be great if I am, but I can try again in September if it isn't.

I am so happy I have had you guys to chat with during this wild rollercoaster month!!!

Oh, and thanks for listening to my thoughts.

 

[alin3boys]

how long you got to wait hun im in uk so its 6pm here don't know time difference

 

[alicatt]

how long you got to wait hun im in uk so its 6pm here don't know time difference

Not long now.. they said they would call between 2 and 3 and it is 1:15.
Still it seems like with every minute that ticks by my stomach tightens into a bigger knot! If I am not pregnant, I am going to be having myself a few drinks tonight! LOL! If I am, well I don't know, maybe a bowl of ice cream?