Welcome to 'Trying To Conceive Over 35'

[Grey Eyes]

Ali- I agree w/ Angel. Maybe just not your month but COULD be your month this time round too! Wait for beta and see what doc says In the meantime what does doc say about having a whole bunch of sex and trying naturally? Did you have an issue with cm or fallopian tubes? If not, after that hsg I don't see why it wouldn't work naturally. Maybe go find a handsome -- what did you say? -- wickedly handsome man. This month may still though!!! Fx'd and

Samsfan- I feel so much better when I exercise and work out also! I hate to run though- I think maybe I just need to do it and get in the groove? I love to work out with weights though It's like a meditation for me. Yay for taking temp! lol! Although it only confirms ov once it has already occurred however I think it is a fab way of documenting and tracking what our bodies are doing. I am wondering how birth and breastfeeding will affect mine. FF has shown crosshairs but

Angel- thanks! My dd's are a ton of fun but OMG a lot of hard work too And yep- I am grabbing wherever I can get it these days. Which is usually between 4-8 am

Babywhisperer- wow, you did do some soul searching! I understand your view completely- why should you suffer all this effort and labor and drugs and hormones when dh won't stop worrying about his physical appearance for a few weeks? O btw...if he's been taking it so long has it helped? My dh lost his hair when he had cancer but it grew back--only to lose a lot of it again because of medications. But I let him know it doesn't bother me. Bald (or balding) guys can be hot too I understand your frustration re:the club as well. I think it is great for you to get this stuff off your chest and encourage your dh to step up to his part Teamwork! There are times when dh and I have to have heart-to-hearts as well, keep the comm open iykwim. Btw- I never heard of the link between clomid and autism- def worth checking out!!

 

[Grey Eyes]

Samsfan- damned computers! I did that same thing the other day

 

[Grey Eyes]

Phil- did you have that gorgeous bundle yet??


Hi ladies- haven't heard for Phil in a bit--think she is still celebrating the holidays or is she having that baby????

 

[Grey Eyes]

AFM-

Crazy day today! I am spinning in circles lately I think one of the hardest things in the world to figure out is MEN. I love my dh very much but there are times I stress out trying to handle everything and make life easier for everyone else. Some days I can't make it all come together without his help iykwim....I explained to the dd's how things were going to have to change. Especially my oldest. At over 8 years old there are certain things she can do for herself instead of relying upon me and my time 100 %- make her bed, feed the dog, brush her teeth, put her laundry away, etc. I had to explain to her she wasn't a baby anymore--seems like I have done this all before!

Anyway- I bought myself a couple of second hand books I have been wanting for Christmas and today I actually sat on the couch with a cup of coffee and read!!! First time in a couple years! Felt awesome. I bought take out Chinese food for dinner so I'm not cookin' tonight either Am I terrible> Nah.

Oh! Btw! I weighed myself the other day after adjusting my stupid weight scale to match the docs and I am 6 pounds over my pre-preg weight! Yay! Now if I can just get my shape to reflect that.... lol!

 

[Samsfan]

Grey Eyes- Sounds like you have your hands full!!!!!! Exercise makes me feel great... wish I did it often enough to reflect results in my body. I think I need to reconnect with myself and get into the groove. I found a plan on prevention for getting into running, so I follow it and it feels good. Love spinning.

Sounds like you had a wonderful day. Wish I could calm down enough to get into reading... so relaxing.. and my mind is always running.

It is gross out ---raining and sleet. Cuddled up at home with the dog. Made some chicken in the oven. This is going to be a long 2 weeks until I have that final conversation with my fs. Today financial called from FS... ugggh so much to think about.

In the meantime....

AFM-

Crazy day today! I am spinning in circles lately I think one of the hardest things in the world to figure out is MEN. I love my dh very much but there are times I stress out trying to handle everything and make life easier for everyone else. Some days I can't make it all come together without his help iykwim....I explained to the dd's how things were going to have to change. Especially my oldest. At over 8 years old there are certain things she can do for herself instead of relying upon me and my time 100 %- make her bed, feed the dog, brush her teeth, put her laundry away, etc. I had to explain to her she wasn't a baby anymore--seems like I have done this all before!

Anyway- I bought myself a couple of second hand books I have been wanting for Christmas and today I actually sat on the couch with a cup of coffee and read!!! First time in a couple years! Felt awesome. I bought take out Chinese food for dinner so I'm not cookin' tonight either Am I terrible> Nah.

Oh! Btw! I weighed myself the other day after adjusting my stupid weight scale to match the docs and I am 6 pounds over my pre-preg weight! Yay! Now if I can just get my shape to reflect that.... lol!

 

[Babywhisperer]

Babywhisperer--- I had this long post and the computer just fritzed when I went to post. Tell him to get hair implants if its so important. He is so vain and frankly has his priorities mixed up. My DH is thinning and he never mentions it. He is so cute anyway

I checked out the website. I'm also in New York and appreciate a good referral. Let me know how your initial appointment goes. Do they take insurance? Didn't know about the clomid / autism connection. MY friend has trips. They are 3 and they were iui/clomid babies. They are so cute.

I am also considering the IUI vs IVF vs wait 3 months. My FS also said that the AMH is less important. He performed a sono and checked the viability of the ovaries and he said he relies on that test rather than AMH. He relies more on the sono than the AMH. However do to work/life, age and other concerns he suggests we go straight to IVF. Idk. I am more focused right now on healing my body and detoxing as of today I figure I have some time before I have to make a decision or start a cycle. I gather they won't be able to start in January since I'm having another sono done January 7th... by then I will be close to ovulating and they will have to start in February? BTW have you looked into grants. I know my place offers grants for IVF. I don't know what that means, but it looks promising. Hang in there and tell your DH that if its that important to get implants and stop playing with drugs that also may cause birth defects.

Thank you for your support. I had my first appt today and I was in a deep deep sleep, twitched hard 4 times and woke up only to fall back asleep. She treated the areas to promote blood flow to the follicles since I am cd2 and they are already preparing to grow as they approach ovulation. I need to get my body balanced again, I know I still have inflammation from the Lyme Disease, and am probably acidic, have leaky gut from antibiotics, s she has me taking a heavy duty probiotic, no dairy, gluten, eggs and eating for what they consider a tried system...I am usually very low energy. She will try to balance my chi and at some point incorporate herbs, but not while I do clomid which is why I am going to wait. On Citysearch there are so many positive reviews from women conceiving after having failed iui/ivf cycles. I also trust my friend and she said Yinova is the best in the city. The founder wrote a book called Making Babies https://yinovacenter.com/about-us/jills-books/ that I plan to read and follow to the letter. If after 3mos we don't conceive naturally I will try clomid/iui...they also mentioned that since I ovulate every month I could just do iui w/o clomid. In any event the program will detox and rebalance me while promoting better hormonal harmony, blood flow...

One thing my friend told me was that RE groups try to keep their success rates high which is why they push for more aggressive methods to achieve successful pregnancies. I am just afraid to try a medication that is being investigated for autism links. If I am unsuccessful after 3mos I will take the next step, but just jumping right into clomid/iui is not what my gut says is right for now. The acupuncturist also discussed injecting medication instead of climid b/c it will not thing out my lining like clomid. I'm not giving up, I am just taking a step back and seeing if my body can do what it is supposed to do naturally if given some time, healing, and holistic assistance.

Dh may fear being bal as a cueball, but I fear triplets, deformities, and having a child with autism due to medications. I am doing all that I can, so should he. As of tonight he is being more reasonable. This has to be a team effort, making me take fertility meds while he takes a pregnancy category X drug is absurd. Period.

 

[FirstTry]

Babywhisperer: I'm sorry to hear about your DH and the Propecia. I don't understand such a great fear of losing his hair. Is there some history to it? A bad experience? My DH is bald, started thinning in college and just shaved it a few years later. I actually prefer him without hair.

Are you sure that your DH wants to have kids now? Is he freaking out about the responsibility? If he is ready for kids, how would he feel about having to use donor sperm?

I wish you the best of luck in your meeting with the FS and hope that it helps

 

[Samsfan]

Babywhisperer- I totally agree with you... its absurd.. Stand your ground with him. This isn't a one way street. Propecia is very dangerous to a fetus. If he is so serious about it... let him invest in a hair transplant.

I'll look into it. My FS stressed age. I agree, it seems the process takes a while. I started testing beginning of December and I'm still not done. I don't know when they start on the drugs.. maybe someone can educate me as to whether you start with your new cycle, but my cycle starts December 30th, so it looks like February. In the meantime, I will do whatever I need to do to make this happen naturally. I'm going to try them out also since my cycle starts soon. Do they suggest starting with the beginning of your cycle? When do you go back? How much does it run and do they take insurance? Sorry for all the questions... but I hear acupuncture is really great for fertility.

Babywhisperer--- I had this long post and the computer just fritzed when I went to post. Tell him to get hair implants if its so important. He is so vain and frankly has his priorities mixed up. My DH is thinning and he never mentions it. He is so cute anyway

I checked out the website. I'm also in New York and appreciate a good referral. Let me know how your initial appointment goes. Do they take insurance? Didn't know about the clomid / autism connection. MY friend has trips. They are 3 and they were iui/clomid babies. They are so cute.

I am also considering the IUI vs IVF vs wait 3 months. My FS also said that the AMH is less important. He performed a sono and checked the viability of the ovaries and he said he relies on that test rather than AMH. He relies more on the sono than the AMH. However do to work/life, age and other concerns he suggests we go straight to IVF. Idk. I am more focused right now on healing my body and detoxing as of today I figure I have some time before I have to make a decision or start a cycle. I gather they won't be able to start in January since I'm having another sono done January 7th... by then I will be close to ovulating and they will have to start in February? BTW have you looked into grants. I know my place offers grants for IVF. I don't know what that means, but it looks promising. Hang in there and tell your DH that if its that important to get implants and stop playing with drugs that also may cause birth defects.

Thank you for your support. I had my first appt today and I was in a deep deep sleep, twitched hard 4 times and woke up only to fall back asleep. She treated the areas to promote blood flow to the follicles since I am cd2 and they are already preparing to grow as they approach ovulation. I need to get my body balanced again, I know I still have inflammation from the Lyme Disease, and am probably acidic, have leaky gut from antibiotics, s she has me taking a heavy duty probiotic, no dairy, gluten, eggs and eating for what they consider a tried system...I am usually very low energy. She will try to balance my chi and at some point incorporate herbs, but not while I do clomid which is why I am going to wait. On Citysearch there are so many positive reviews from women conceiving after having failed iui/ivf cycles. I also trust my friend and she said Yinova is the best in the city. The founder wrote a book called Making Babies https://yinovacenter.com/about-us/jills-books/ that I plan to read and follow to the letter. If after 3mos we don't conceive naturally I will try clomid/iui...they also mentioned that since I ovulate every month I could just do iui w/o clomid. In any event the program will detox and rebalance me while promoting better hormonal harmony, blood flow...

One thing my friend told me was that RE groups try to keep their success rates high which is why they push for more aggressive methods to achieve successful pregnancies. I am just afraid to try a medication that is being investigated for autism links. If I am unsuccessful after 3mos I will take the next step, but just jumping right into clomid/iui is not what my gut says is right for now. The acupuncturist also discussed injecting medication instead of climid b/c it will not thing out my lining like clomid. I'm not giving up, I am just taking a step back and seeing if my body can do what it is supposed to do naturally if given some time, healing, and holistic assistance.

Dh may fear being bal as a cueball, but I fear triplets, deformities, and having a child with autism due to medications. I am doing all that I can, so should he. As of tonight he is being more reasonable. This has to be a team effort, making me take fertility meds while he takes a pregnancy category X drug is absurd. Period.

 

[Samsfan]

Babywhisperer--- I thought the same thing. Is he really ready for kids? May I ask his age?

Babywhisperer: I'm sorry to hear about your DH and the Propecia. I don't understand such a great fear of losing his hair. Is there some history to it? A bad experience? My DH is bald, started thinning in college and just shaved it a few years later. I actually prefer him without hair.

Are you sure that your DH wants to have kids now? Is he freaking out about the responsibility? If he is ready for kids, how would he feel about having to use donor sperm?

I wish you the best of luck in your meeting with the FS and hope that it helps

 

[Philomena]

Still Here! Still Preggers! will write more later.... just wanted to pop on to share a link....

https://daisymayfattypants.blogspot.ca/2010/05/clomid-and-autism.html

There is no established causal link between clomid and autism. In fact, the 'studies' that are being thrown around are putting IVF and Clomid in the same category and creating an alarmist link where there is nothing proven yet.
If you are really worried about it, then the ONLY thing to do is go completely natural with no infertility treatment at all. BUT none of the studies are official or published and therefore the data is not complete or proven. Also, the increased risk they talk about is 2% in the general population to 4% in couples who have had infertility treatment (Clomid, IVF and using infertility drugs in general) and when the data has been collected in such an unscientific, unconfirmed, way.... well, I think it's irresponsible of the media to jump on it and present it in such an alarmist way.

Keep your chins up, ladies!!

More later!

Happy Holidays!!

 

[Grey Eyes]

Samsfan, Babywhisperer, FirstTry- I am keeping up w/ your conversation and i agree---I have heard great things about acupuncture, I would love to try it.

Age is a huge concern to me on the issue of ttc...dh and I have been discussing if we want to have one more? I am thinking yes and that seems to be his thoughts as well. So I am appreciating all the talk concerning clomid, accupuncture, gluten free, etc...all things I think I should incorporate to get in the best poss shape for next time.

Hope ya'll don't mind me hanging out on this thread ...are there BnB police? lol...

Babywhisperer-
"making me take fertility meds while he takes a pregnancy category X drug is absurd. Period. " True!

Samsfan- "reconnect with myself" can be awesome! Sometimes (especially when in a relationship) we often forget who WE are iykwim. Reconnecting is important

 

[Samsfan]

Babywhisperer- Any recommendations on who to see at the acupuncture clinic?

 

[Samsfan]

Grey eyes --- Of course jump in... you have awesome input! NO bnb police here! Do they really exist????lololol

I am definitely reconnecting with myself!!! When it is always about someone else, we forget about ourselves.

Samsfan, Babywhisperer, FirstTry- I am keeping up w/ your conversation and i agree---I have heard great things about acupuncture, I would love to try it.

Age is a huge concern to me on the issue of ttc...dh and I have been discussing if we want to have one more? I am thinking yes and that seems to be his thoughts as well. So I am appreciating all the talk concerning clomid, accupuncture, gluten free, etc...all things I think I should incorporate to get in the best poss shape for next time.

Hope ya'll don't mind me hanging out on this thread ...are there BnB police? lol...

Babywhisperer-
"making me take fertility meds while he takes a pregnancy category X drug is absurd. Period. " True!

Samsfan- "reconnect with myself" can be awesome! Sometimes (especially when in a relationship) we often forget who WE are iykwim. Reconnecting is important

 

[jm1355]

I just wanted to pop in and say hello!! I hope everyone had a terrific Christmas Holiday! ...on to the New Year!!

Looking forward to some BFPs!!

Oh, and don't pay any attention to my FF chart...I am still not charting...maybe next month...

 

[alicatt]

WOW! Chatty bunch! I went to bed last night and missed a great conversation!

I'm on my cell so this will be brief..

BabyWhisperer.. clomid/IUI and or ART linking to Autism is probably due to the age of the couples and possibly male factor. I have read studies about autism and a link to older sperm. So my guess is that it is not necessarily clomid/IUI but the age of the parents which is often higher in people seeking ART. Ask your FS about Femara, it is a better option to clomid. Few side effects, doesn't thin the lining and lowers the risk of multiples. Or jump to Injectibles.

Phil.. thanks for popping in! Glad you are still doing well! Hope babes comes soon!

Samsfan.. can't wait to hear what your plan is for baby making. I hope your FS gives you a great protocol! The AMH is a good indication of your fertility, so is something callee the antral follicle count. This count is the number of immature follicles on your ovaries. If you have lots you'll have a good IVF cycle, only a few and you are likely to have fewer grow. I bet that is what they are going to look at for you. I asked my FS why he didn't count mine and he simply said, you have more that enough! LOL!

AFM.. I'm going to get into shape here the next few months and probably wait until March to do my FET. I am going to ask for uterine scratching and assisted hatching on my embryos.

 

[jm1355]

It's hard to wait around for something that might not happen but even harder to let go of when you've wanted it for so long...
So I guess I will keep hoping and praying...

 

[alicatt]

It's hard to wait around for something that might not happen but even harder to let go of when you've wanted it for so long...
So I guess I will keep hoping and praying...

Yes, we have to have faith! I still have faith, even though I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a BFN on Friday.

 

[TerriLou]

Hello Lovely Ladies, I trust you have managed to get over the busyness of Christmas. I'm back at work today and to compare to what I normally do, a normal day would have me order about 80 searches and complete about 50, today, so far, with only 45 minutes to go, I have ordered 10 and completed 12. The majority of our customers are Solicitors and our Suppliers are Local Authorities, all of whom seem to take off the days between Christmas and New Year, so I'll have 2 more really slow days tomorrow and the 31st. Oh well, at least I'll be working from home.

For those of you who stalk charts, you will see that I'm due to test on 31st. I don't feel in the slightest bit pregnant and considering we didn't manage to get much in due to the way we were both feeling, I'm not going to get my hopes up. I think I'll test on the 1st, so then what a great start we would have to 2013 if there were a BFP. If not, then I will more than likely have been visited by the evil AF, but we'll see.

Phil, I'm getting excited to meet your little one, can't wait to see the pics. Are you still nice and comfortable - well, as much as you can be with a baby wriggling around inside you.

Coy, the pics of your girls are adorable. Aeryn looks gorgeous in here fluffy little outfit.

Ali, I know you are thinking on the negative side, but I'll try to send positive thoughts over to you, you so deserve to be baking your little bun, you've been through so much over the last few months

Jess, good to see you pop in. Thats all I seem to be doing lately too. Congrats on the graduation, the pics look great.

Angel, FirstTry, Babywhisperer, Samsfan, everyone else hope you've all enjoyed Christmas and you have a great 2013, just in case I'm not on here again until January.

(and any other party type emoticons)

 

[Samsfan]

Another day off... woke up so late... and I have so much to do.. responsibilities... Greyeyes---- In my mind I missed the gym this am... maybe I'll catch it later. Going to take the dog for a short run. I have to run into work to prepare for 2013. I got a semi promotion.. More responsibilities

Alicatt- How are you feeling? I think that is exactly what my FS looked at. He said the same thing... you have more than enough and he is less concerned with AMH.. BTW my FS is responsible for the first IVF baby and the first cryo baby... so I really should be more trusting. This stuff is just so much to digest and I think I'm upset that I can't do this naturally.

Terrylou-- I'm due on December 30th also. I've been testing already. I know I'm not BFP... but I keep testing... so silly of me.. I'll hold of until Jan 1st.. Good idea.

Good things for all in the new year!!!! Sorry Im posting so much.. but I guess I have had too much free time the last 2 days. I also think I'm getting addicted to you guys.

 

[Grey Eyes]

Jess! Yay, so glad to hear from you LOL! I checked your chart soon as I saw your pic pop on here today You know us all too well You've got so much faith, it is important. I am confident God hears our prayers or I wouldn't have my little Aeryn today We try so hard but seriously--God gets all the credit in my book! Fabulous graduation pics of you to girl- on to doctorate? Hm? lol

Terri- Yay! So glad to hear from you also! Wow, what a great day to wake up and read awesome news from your fave people

Ali- I'm still not giving up this month yet, tomorrow is your beta, yes? I am telling you not to stress but I know you are going to! Just remember we love you and will you be taking your mom with you tomorrow??

Samsfan- I am glad you are researching so much, it is important to be informed How are you feeling today?