35 and over and ltttc for baby #2 for over 2.5yrs!

[tommyg]

Wish how are you feeling today?

 

[Wish4another1]

everyone - thanks for the well wishes
Tommy - I did ok most of the day - I went to the bathroom at 4pm and now I am in some serious pain... But I took some ibuprofen and it is making the pain bearable... Just hoping my softball friend is shrinking...
Have a great weekend everyone!!!

 

[tommyg]

Been quiet in here over the last few days how is everybody doing?

I think I just might be ovulating, sorry if TMI, got lots of EWCM at the moment. And even if I'm not CD40 is Friday so they will kick of my next cycle then.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hi everyone

How are you all? Tommy that is super confusing.... is there any chance of getting a BFP in a natural cycle?!! Here's hoping you get some answers.... Will this next one be IUI #2 or 3? (Sorry memory is failing me!)

Wish - how are you feeling?

Hello to everyone else? Hope you are all ok!

AFM: Nothing to report here. My temp was finally up on Saturday so I guess I most likely ovulated on Friday morning (based on pain etc) so am 3dpo but really not expecting anything this month (although I guess I should optimistic since you never know!) but just looking forward to starting IUI. We had a super busy w/e which ended with DS being sick Needless to say we're having a quiet day today!!

 

[tommyg]

Pants I just wrote a nice chatty reply and lost it.

Low chance but a chance of me getting pregnant on a natural cycle. Chances of timing it right are low and the egg quality can be low (bit stale) especially on a long cycle. DS was conceived on what would have been a 5 week cycle. If I ovulate now it will be a 7 week cycle.

However as always I live in hope. I can't do anything else but live in hope. This is officially IUI 3 coming up excluding the cycle that was abandoned.

Exciting times for you Orchard fingers crossed your IUI journey is easy and it should be as you have a fairly regular cycle.

Wish how are you doing?

Brave you still reading and losing weight?

Hello everyone else.

 

[Cookie1979]

Hi Ladies, WhiteOrchard recommended that I join you ladies after seeing my post in regards to secondary infertility.

Abit about me, I'm 35 years old, my husband is 34, we have a son who is 4 who was conceived without trying (we were planning our wedding at the time). I have PCOS and it's mainly in control with weightloss but I do have the odd long cycle here and there. This cycle I haven't been charting my temp or using opks, I think going by my cm that I ovulated either yesterday or today...which is later than usual as I'm on cd 24 today. Oh and we've been trying to conceive number 2 since June 2013, although we stopped protecting against it well before then.

I've had tests to check I'm ovulating and I am, and my hubby had his SA in December which came back normal, and on Tuesday next week we have our first fertility appointment at the hospital. Hoping the doctor will give me Clomid and possibly Metformin (Met for my PCOS), although I'm aware that they might want to do further tests before giving me Clomid - I read that Clomid can improve egg quality/the amount of follicles.

tommyg - I have long cycles (as you can see above Im on cd 24 and I think only just ovulating) I've had some cycles that have been 60 odd days long. Its frustrating!

WhiteOrchard - thanks so much for recommending that I join you guys, its really going to be good to chat to some ladies in the same boat. Best of luck with your IUI, I hope you are successful.

xx

 

[Mooshie]

Welcome cookie! They're a lovely bunch of ladies in here! Good luck for your fertility appointment next week but hopefully you won't need it if you've caught the eggy this month!

Wish - how are you? That sounds absolutely awful but at least you know whats up now. Hopefully the BC will shrink that sucker!

TommyG - Good luck with the BD'ing

Hi everyone else, hope you're all doing well

So, update on me ..... i started taking EPO this cycle on CD1, i'm now on CD13 and got what I think is a +ve OPK so I should OV tomorrow making this month a normal 28 dayer Seems that the EPO has helped with regulating my cycle already!! Hubby won't know what's hit him tonight

 

[Cookie1979]

Thanks Mooshie. Fingers crossed that the EPO has helped. I tried it for a little while but it gave me terrible migraines.

Have any of you tried natural remedies? I was reading about Vitex, obviously wont be trying it if I get Clomid but figured might be an idea for the future.

Anyone else feel like everyone else is having a second baby other than you? I do, infact every woman from my postnatal group has either had baby number 2 or having it, and one is pregnant with number 3. I avoid them because I feel uncomfortable and out of place, I decided to stop avoiding them and that I was being silly, so met up with some of them, but I felt uncomfortable and then one of them announced that she's having number 3! So I'm back to avoiding them now! lol. Also one of my oldest friends whose little boy is 10 days younger than my son, and who said she didn't want another baby is pregnant and due early April...I cried for days when she told me. Felt horrible but did pick myself back up. Even if I had one person who hadn't gone on to get pregnant again that would give me a small comfort, but out of all the mums I know I'm the only one with one child so it makes me feel very alone.

x

 

[coquis224]

welcome cookie! I too ovulated late this cycle around cd44 or 45. very frustrating. My husband has yet to have a SA we are waiting for our apt on March 2nd.

Mooshie I'm glad the EPO is working for you! I'm actually terrified of it as I have heard horror stories.

Tommy -good luck with BD hopefully you are able to get your BFP

Orchid- Sorry your lo is sick. I hope he feels better....Stay positive like you said you never know...

Wish- do you know if your cyst has shrunk any?

AFM-not much I'm 4dpo so still waiting. I have had some horrendous heartburn/digestive issues. I had my gall bladder out in 09 so not sure why I have felt like this. I can't eat anything fried or fattening. Maybe its for my own good in a way. I hope I can lose some weight if I'm not prego. My willpower sucks though. Did anyone else get a pile of snow this past Monday?

Hope all of you are well. Take care and hope to talk to you soon.

 

[Srbjbex]

Hi Cookie and welcome! Similar to you - we have our first fertility appointment at the hospital tomorrow! (Bit nervous!) Although we know in our case from OH's SA that he has low sperm count (4m) and morphology (2%). I'll let you know what happens at the appointment. My main question is whether we are even eligible for NHS treatment as we already have a child, as I think it really varies around the country.

And I COMPLETELY get it about how you feel around others. My NCT group are all pg or have had their number 2 and I know I started trying before any of them (keep having to tell myself it is not a race!). I hate the extreme jealousy I have over my friends, but like you I have done some avoiding recently because it is too hard. This group is really comforting to know you are not the only one!


AFM 10dpo today. Body feels like it's gearing up for AF (can always tell by my boobs) so I think it will be a well timed appointment!

Babydust to you Mooshie

Hi everyone else!

 

[Cookie1979]

Coquis - Hi! Good luck with this 2ww, I hope this is your lucky month! I know all about will power, I've been doing Slimming World (a slimming club in the UK) for just over a year and I haven't lost any weight in around 6 months, I take 1 step forward and 2 steps back. I'm very close to getting my 2 and a half stone award (which is 35 lbs altogether). Hope I can start getting more weight off again, but I focus on the positive, if I hadn't kept going I'd have gained all the weight I'd lost by now.

srbjbex - totally sucks when everyone else seems to easily get what you so badly want, I'm just glad I work, otherwise I think I'd be quite lonely and never see anyone. As it is I only have one free afternoon through the week and I'm quite happy to do stuff just me and my boy, enjoying it while I can as he'll be starting school in September. Yes definitely let me know how your appointment goes, I've heard different things, some say they got Clomid quickly others had to have tests first. I'm hoping they will take my age into consideration and not make me wait for it...fed up of waiting. Hope AF stays away.

Quite glad ovulation is late, had fully expected to have missed the window as my son was in hospital last week and it was right when I should have ovulated but actually had ewcm later than usual so looks like my body delayed it abit. Never been happy to have delayed ovulation before, but worked in my favour this month.

xx

 

[coquis224]

I got my clomid from a friend. A lot of people I know get it online though not sure how it works in the UK.

 

[Cookie1979]

A girl I know has bought Clomid before (she's UK) I figure worst comes to worse I'll buy it too. How long are you allowed to take it for?

 

[tommyg]

Ladies as somebody who has hyper stimulated twice, first time when they tried to down regulate me and secondly with clomid and injectables. I really don't think it is worth taking drugs purchased over the internet or that have been prescribed for somebody else.

When I was given the clomid I was given 3 mths worth, used one month so have 2 left. Don't get me wrong I've been tempted to try it on it's own but really I just don't think it is worth the risk.
Wish also has a cyst which is getting blamed on clomid.

 

[coquis224]

Tommy-I remember you telling me this before and this does scare me I must admit. I just know how desperate I'm getting though.......

Cookie-what kind of diet do they have you on? Is it low fat or low carb? I'm trying to decide between the two as low fat has worked for me before and I seem to get awful heartburn with high fat foods. I have heard that low carb is better for people with PCOS (which I suspect I have) but I'm just a carb junkie lol.

I'm so mad right now this acquaintance of mine has 2 month old and just found out she is pregnant again!!! Really?

 

[Wish4another1]

ladies!!

coquis - I know that in desperation you want to take the clomid but please heed some warning... Clomid is medicine that you don't want to mess with - I took my first two rounds and I thought it was heaven - no spotting a normal length cycle - but no BFP... then I took the third round 50 mg and I didn't ovulate - so the DR upped it to 100mg...and low and behold I have a softball size cyst on my right ovary (and another cyst smaller)
and now I am back on BCP (after over 2 years of not taking them) and I have bled almost the entire month of January hoping that they shrink this thing so I don't have to have surgery... and all the while no its terrible... its just not worth it... now I have all this waiting to do and wasting more time.... not even the possibility of anything happeneing till this cyst resolves...
plus if it really overstimulates you - it is life threatening!! I know its hard to not do every option out there... but you really need to be watched while on clomid

and where I am you get 6 months of clomid for a LIFETIME!!! thats it... I wouldn't want to waste any of it...

Cookie - welcome to the thread - I hope you have a super short stay! but you have met an awesome bunch of ladies for sure!!

Mooshie - congrats on having a "normal" cycle!! I hope you caught the egg this time!!!

Srbjbex - good luck at your appointment tomorrow - please give us an update when you are done!!!

tommy - so you ovulated late - will they still jump start your next cycle or wait and see??? I hope you are not waiting too long for your next IUI...

orchid - I hope your little man is feeling better and I hope no one else gets sick at your house... any tests coming up?? I would be so stoked if you go back for tests and you are PG!!!!!

Lanet - I am you on the multiples board... I hope you get to keep your little ones inside a couple more weeks - but with all you have been through in the last week - it sounds like they might come QUICK!! love you bare belly pic too!!! I can't wait to see your little ones... love your names too!!!

eyemom - Hi lady hope all is well with you!!

Cali - still thinking of you hoping hoping all is ok

to those I missed

AFM: started bleeding again - back to the dr tomorrow to check on size of cyst... I sure hope its going down... I am sick of it already...
heading to Poland in less than two weeks... hoping I don't have any issues flying with this cyst!! I am briefing a 3 star Polish general on casualty operations! fun times...
Have a great day ladies!!

 

[lanet]

Wish im glad you follow me, then I don't have to update all over again! Yes hoping to keep them in but they may have plans of their own. I feel relieved that I've recieved the steroid shots though. If I can make it to 35 weeks it would be great although DH is betting it's super bowl Sunday.
I hope your cyst shrinks before your trip!
And I agree with you and Tommy about taking Clomid without being prescribed, I got ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome during Ivf (can happen with clomid although not as common) and it really is life threatening and no joke. Just be careful girls, although I know that desperation all to well. Like wish said you can only use clomid so many times before it's detrimental to fertility so use it wisely.
Hello and best wishes to everyone else

 

[dojenstein]

Hi ladies. I haven't been around in a while. Lots of catching up to do. Welcome Cookie.

I had my first IUI today. It was frightening and exciting all at the same time. My DF is 44 and I'm 41 and we have "unexplained fertility" probably entirely related to age since our numbers from the RE have all come back excellent. It's just so frustrating.

And I totally know what you mean around being around other that are pregnant or announcing their pregnancy. It seems that all my friends need to do is look at each other and bam, they're preggers. I try to avoid Facebook cause all it does it make me sad.

Now I have to wait 14 days to even take a test! I'm usually a POAS addict and I can't even do that. Ugh. Sorry to vent. I hope everyone else is doing well.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hi Ladies!!

How are you all? It's lovely to see you all updating

Tommy: Bring on the witch or ideally a BFP!!! We can do it... I know we can! Love you!

Cookie: I am so happy you came over.... everyone here is going through what you are so you will definitely have lots of lovely ladies to talk to and we are always more than open for a rant or 2!! Secondary Infertility (like all infertility) is a bitch and it is so hard to deal with. I totally understand how you feel about all of your friends having 2 or 3.....In my 3+ years of TTC #2 I have seen it all....the "surprise" pregnancies, the ones that were planned and happened on the 1st month of trying and the ones that wanted to wait for a bigger age gap and got it exactly when they wanted..... they all have multiple children and my plans of a 3 year (3 on the dot or just under!) gap went out the window...several times!!! So hard.... esp. when I was one of the first to have my first. Still you are here and we hope it's a short stay. I seriously don't know what I would do without the ladies on here so you are in great company.

Mooshie - I apologise but I have no idea.....what is EPO?!

Coquis - Ok so I don't want to be beating you down and repeating what the other ladies have said but I'm definitely worried about you taking your friends Clomid. I have been a part of this thread for 18 months (since it started) and have seen what happened to Lanet, Tommy and now Wish. I TOTALLY understand how you feel because I have been TTC #2 for over 3 years and up until now we have basically done nothing so I understand the desire to be proactive about TTC but I just worry about the possibility of complications for an unmonitored clomid cycle. Plus think how pissed off you would be if you made things worse rather than better. I'm so sorry cause I know how you must be feeling but I would put it away for now and see what happens with your own Dr....

Srbjbex - Is it ok if I call you Bex? Sorry I am so bad with names!! I'm sorry that you feel that AF is coming but glad you have an appt already set up... We are in the same boat as the last SA my DH had was 4 mill and 2% morph. Good luck - I hope it goes well!!

Wish - how are you doing girl? I can't believe you are bleeding again....I'm hoping it's a good sign and your cyst dissolving (does that happen!?!) When is your Docs appt? Major

Lanet - ok so I totally had to stalk after what Wish said and OMG you are way too cute!! Although having had a giant belly with my DS I feel for you and your back - I hope you are ok. Love the names... esp. the boys! I have my fingers and toes crossed for you that they stay in as long as possible!! Eeeek I can't believe after all that you have been through that they will soon be here! Big hugs lady, I hope if things go fast that everything goes well at the birth. Giant

Dojenstein - that is so exciting!!! I am keeping my FX for you and sending lots of dust I am dreading the 2ww after IUI...Keep busy and hopefully it will go by quickly!

Eyemom, Isaac, Braven, MomwithBabies, Gemmy if you are reading a big

Cali - I am still super worried about you.....where are you?!?!

To anyone else I have missed I am so sorry but I hope you are ok!

AFM: Nothing to report TTC wise....5dpo and nothing yet to report of. Poor DS is super sick so definite lack of sleep in our house and of course DH is now away (why does that always happen!) I am so hoping he gets better soon, I hate seeing him like this but funnily enough being awake so much with him last night reminded me of what it's like with a baby... scary!!! LOL! Hugs to everyone! xxx

 

[Cookie1979]

Coquis - What symptoms do you have that make you think you might have PCOS? Have you had any tests? I have irregular cycles (they get really bad when I gain weight) really really struggle to lose weight, have spots and excess hair. I have to do low carb, if I eat too many carbs I dont lose weight. I don't eat Pasta or rice at all, and I limit the amount of potato I have, rather than bread I tend to have wholemeal pittas and stick with the rule of no carbs after lunch. Its not easy and you are hungry at first, but your body gets used to no carbs with the evening meal. I get so frustrated with the struggle to lose weight, its not all the PCOS though, I binge eat...my son was in hospital last week and I ended up stuffing myself, it was partly comfort eating, partly that there was very little to choose from, not easy when you are stuck on a ward and they dont feed you, they only feed the kids. Still I hadn't really needed to eat chocolate, biscuits and crisps to the extent that I did. I'm hoping the fertility doctor will give me Metformin, which helps insulin resistance and helps you lose weight...although can give you a bad tummy, but I'm so fed up of not getting anywhere with my weightloss I'm willing to try it if it will help. x

Thanks Wish - I shall heed your warning (and lanet's warning) about Clomid I think, I really dont want to mess around with it, and will take it only if I'm prescribed. x

dojenstein - fingers crossed that the IUI has done the trick x

WhiteOrchard - thanks so much, so glad I joined you ladies, I feel better already, I feel like I have some hope again and my spirits have been lifted. I've been on babyandbump since I started ttc (and before that as came on when I was pregnant) and last year I just had enough of it, everytime Id chat to women they'd get pregnant and I wouldn't, it just brought me down so ended up leaving. But this week decided to come back on and see if there was anyone I could talk to in a similar situation, and I'm really glad I did. I think though I'll only be coming on here to talk to you ladies and won't be heading into the ttc section. x