4 Leaf Clover IVF / ICSI Buddies

[brooklyn1]

hi ladies,
Hang in there trying4ever and breeze, the tww is sooo hard. But you can usually test a few days early if you want to (I caved in at 12 days past EC).

Good luck to everyone starting stims and down regging, exciting stuff!

Millana, how was EC? Are they going to do a transfer this month?

Caline, I hope you get to do FET this month. My clinic said one full cycle off was all you need, so you should be fine!

As for me, my OHSS is easing a bit, but I'm still quite bloated, tender and sore in my tummy. It's making it hard to notice if I'm having any pregnancy symptoms at all....

 

[Millana]

Hi Ladies!

Brooklyn, glad to know your OHSS is easing up.

My EC went better than the first time. I did not have any pain during the procedure. They were able to extract two good quality eggs. Tomorrow is my ET at 11:45 AM. I am planning to leave very early as I live upstate and the weather is not cooperating since yesterday. It would be a 2 day transfer.

Will let you know tomorrow.

 

[rachelle1975]

Hey guys,

Hope you are well.
My drugs get delivered tomorrow

Quick question - my clinic offers a pre and post transfer on-site accupuncture for the pricely sum of £300 (OMG!). My question is - is it only beneficial if you have had accupuncture before? I've a phobia of needles although by the EC stage this should be cured... just wondering if accupuncture might make me feel more stressed than anything else??

 

[caline]

Rachelle, I have regular accupuncture, and had it after my transfer. My accupuncturist specialises in fertility. He says the main reason for having it before transfer is to help relax you. He does, however, say that its important to have it asap after transfer.

I pay £40 a session (1 hour), so £300 seems extreme! I would say don't have it before, and find somewhere that you can book a session for in the few hours after your transfer. I personally wouldn't pay £300.

In this months Pregnancy & Birth (I don't buy this, get it free at work), Zita West quotes a 57% increased sucess of IVF if accupuncture is give after transfer. It is quite significant and there are some good research studies to back this up.

Millana, I'm glad your EC went well, good luck for the transfer.

I'm still waiting for a call back from the clinic........

 

[Breeze]

Rachelle1975,i agree with caline, i paid 35pounds for a session of accupuncture! 300 is huge! I had accu as well be4 and after my ET, helped me to relax and not stress about ET.
Caline, your FET will be around pretty soon!! Exciting!!

Brooklyn1, glad ur OHSS is improving!!

As for me,woke up with a cold!!caught from DH!! Everytime i sneeze or cough im paranoid about the embryo!! Im feeling terrible with a stuffy head,blocked nose!!!

Milana,good luck for ET!!

 

[Trying4ever]

Breeze I think a cold is a good sign...I have heard loads of people get a cold aound the time before they find out they are preg. Reason could be that your immune system is down so embie sticks and is not rejected by the body!.....So I hope its all good for you xx

 

[rachelle1975]

Thanks guys!

Got me drugs so i'm ready to go

I was reading up on the whole accupuncture and they seem to think the reason it helps success is due to its relaxation properties - i'm pretty chilled out and don't feel to stressed or anxious - having injections might increase my stress levels through my needle fear! Decision decisions....

 

[Breeze]

Hi ladies,well im still stuck with this horrid cold! All bunged up, rang clinic and they said not to take anything except paracetemol!! I realy hope this does not interfere with the emby!!! Hope everybody is ok??

 

[caline]

Breeze, I am sure your cold won't interfere with implantation, but I know it must be worrying. You kinda want to wrap yourself in cotton wool for the 2ww. Hope you are feeling better soon. When is you test date?

Rachele, think you are right not having the accupuncture if it is going to stress you out more. Only thing you could try is having some now, and seeing what its like. I find the needles almost painless, and quite quick. I just can't ignore the statistics, lol.

Clinic phoned today and the nurse will scan me on monday when we are there for the consultation. Saves me driving there on Wednesday too

We have to decide on Monday how many embryos to have put back. I have always been adamant about only having one. Being a midwife, I am too aware of the risks etc with twins. But these last few weeks I have been reconsidering. I really don't want twins, but I want to increase our chances of having one baby.

We weren't given a choice for our funded cycle, it was a case of this is what we are going to do, so the decision was taken out of my hands. But the nurse said we have to decide by Monday, as the labs need to know.

Does anyone know the chances of twins with 2 embies put back? Also, how much having 2 put back increases the chances of getting pregnant with one? Guess this would be double what it would be with a single embie?

 

[annmc30]

Thanks guys!

Got me drugs so i'm ready to go

I was reading up on the whole accupuncture and they seem to think the reason it helps success is due to its relaxation properties - i'm pretty chilled out and don't feel to stressed or anxious - having injections might increase my stress levels through my needle fear! Decision decisions....

when do u start taken them? i pick mine up on the 4th march to start on the 8th march im really excited now hope everything works out n u get a bfp soon x

 

[peartree]

Yay for drug delivery Rachelle! When do you start injecting? I have a real fear of needles too, and found it really stressful when DH was loading up and putting the autoinjector on me. In recent days, I've started injecting myself. In a weird way, it's a lot less stressful because you're concentrating on the task in hand and not on the needle going into you. I really wanted DH to be a part of this, but I guess he'll have to do his part prepping it and driving us to and fro to the clinic.

Breeze, I hope the cold means good news!

Millana - I hope the ET went well - for your 2WW!

 

[Aphrodite]

Clinic phoned today and the nurse will scan me on monday when we are there for the consultation. Saves me driving there on Wednesday too

We have to decide on Monday how many embryos to have put back. I have always been adamant about only having one. Being a midwife, I am too aware of the risks etc with twins. But these last few weeks I have been reconsidering. I really don't want twins, but I want to increase our chances of having one baby.

We weren't given a choice for our funded cycle, it was a case of this is what we are going to do, so the decision was taken out of my hands. But the nurse said we have to decide by Monday, as the labs need to know.

Does anyone know the chances of twins with 2 embies put back? Also, how much having 2 put back increases the chances of getting pregnant with one? Guess this would be double what it would be with a single embie?

Im surprised you weren't given a choice as they told us at that in the end, it was our decision whether to have one or 2-as u know we are at the same clinic

The doc told me that having 2 embryos only increases the chances by 5%. but there seem to be so many people on here who had 2 put back and got a BFP. Its such a hard choice, we will have to think about it soon too. So hard!!

 

[caline]

I was literally sitting on the couch just before transfer and we were told we had one really good blasto that was ready to implant and we would be having this one transferred. I was relieved as only wanted one back at that stage. It was the right decision, as we got bfp. Have since read that some clinics only put one back on NHS funded cylcles, so assumed this was why.

This time we have been specifically asked. I'm thinking though, you are same clinic but different PCT. Maybe they have different protocols for different PCT's?? Youre is certanily more generous than ours as you get more goes, so maybe they're more willing to pick up the extra cost of multiple pregnancies.

 

[Millana]

Thank you ladies for wishing me good luck with my ET today. It went well, the doctor transfered single 2 day embryo with 4 cells. The clinic is very strict with the single transfer policy. The other will be frozen on 5 day stage for later. The nurse gave me an HCG shot, and instructions to continue on taking the estrance tablet once a day and the progesterone gel (vaginal) daily.

I am now officially on my 2WW. Test date is on March 10. I got this cold too, worried it will ooze out when I sneeze (lol).

 

[Breeze]

Milana welcome to 2ww!! Peartree,how far are u with down regg? I also found injecting myself mentally easier than hubby doing it, i think for me its having more thinkinh about the process rather than the needle going in!
As for me,still stuck with this horrid cold. Clinic hav bookd me in for blood test on 5 march!!! Seems like forever left till then!! Because im in that progesterone trial,its been booked in, this would be 11 days post ET and 16 days post EC, so im all confused on what day i am on!!! I think it gets all confusing when you have 5 day transfer!! Im not sure when to do a home test?? Any advice? Dh says to just wait till blood test, thats so hard to do!!!
Trying4ever,how are u feeling??

 

[Mrs G]

caline, we pushed for 2 embies. Like aphrodite says, it certainly doesn't double the chances of bfp but I couldn't live with the what ifs of SET. Even now I think what if they had only put back the embie that didn't make it???

If you are in UK, the hfea only suggest SET, a clinic cannot insist you have it if you don't want to. I think they have been under pressure to reduce multiple birth rates and probably s**t themselves when anyone asks for 2!!!

Rach - I had acupunture in the run up to treatment and then straight before and straight after ET. Could have had no impact on my chances but I was prepared to give anything a try!!! Make sure you get one who specialises in fertility.

Lots of luck to everyone, so much happening here atm!!

xx

 

[lynseyology]

Hi Everyone, well. I'm still waiting for my period 6 weeks after my last one and 4 weeks after our IVF was abandoned! I'm very confused as I am normally so regular and we were told it would be late but surely not this late? We did a pregnancy test today which was negative - I knew it would be, we are not that lucky! I just want to get started again and I feel like I have been waiting for AF to come for years! Does anyone have experience of how late it can be? We completed the down reg and 10 days of the stims drugs. Thank you

 

[Breeze]

Hi everyone,well i think im out this time! Im sooo sad,had the af coming feeling from yest,woke up today to have spotting,sore boobs,my classic pre af symptoms! My gut feeling says it hasnt worked.my period is technically due on tues so the spotting is not that far off! Anyways,im gonna try and b positive and could do some positive words from the ladies here. my dh says i over analyse everything even a twitching toe, there i am on google typing it in to c if its a good sign!! Is this normal??

 

[caline]

Breeze, I was told by my clinic that 70% of women get some vaginal loss, spotting etc after IVF. The sore boobs etc can be pregnancy symptoms. I know how hard it is though. When are you supposed to test? Would you do one earlier? I got bfp 4 days before I was supposed to test.

Lynseyology, this must be SO frustrating for you! I guess all your hormones have to level out again after DR to give you a proper period. I would imagine it would come soon, but don't have any experience in your situation, so all I can say is, hang in there, and focus on getting all healthy and ready to start again.

MrsG, I think you're right, and maybe if we had pushed for it we would have had 2 put back, but at that time I was relieved to only have one. I have since reconsidered, and we are thinking of going for 2 this time. We have an appt tomorrow with a consultant at the clinic, so will have to decide then. My gut feeling is to go for 2, and just hope and pray it results in only 1 pregnancy.


Millana, great news about your transfer! Hope you have a stress free 2ww, and get your bfp. What is the estrance tablet for? Just out of interest.

 

[Millana]

Breeze, please dont lose hope. The symptoms you are having could also be pregnancy also like AF.

Lyn, I know how it feels. My first cycle did not end with ET, they had to freeze the embryo because of thin uterine lining. I had to wait another cycle. It felt forever but that day will come.

Caline, the estrace is an estrogen medication in tablet form. According to the nurse I spoke to, studies have shown that an additional estrogen during the luteal phase (after ET) improves the pregnancy rate. Good luck on your appointment tomorrow!