7th Natural cycle IVF(w/o meds) and finally BFP!

[Briss]

thank you for setting out your symptoms, that's so helpful!!

My main symptoms:

tender breasts: started on day one of taking progesterone
bloated: started after ET
AF type cramping: started 2 days after ET
brown spotting (a tiny amount): 2 days after ET

My official blood test is on Wednesday and it will be 14 DPO. AF usually comes on 15 DPO. the clinic is supposed to tell me what to do after I get my results on Wednesday. I am sure by Wednesday (or even earlier) I'd already know…

dovkav, thank you so much for your wishes!! I also wish with all my heart that you finally get your BFP this cycle and H&H 9 months to follow

Keep me posted on your progress.

 

[dovkav123]

CD8 My blood tests were good yesterday.
LH 4.7 U/I
Estrogen 135.8 pg/ml
Uterine lining 8mm

HCG shot is on Saturday 9:15pm, Monday retrieval 8:15am

We talked on phone with our RE
1. They did ICSI because of low motility. Fertilisaton rates are higher now because of ICSI and they've been doing it for 20 years. ICSI can hurt an embryo, but you can see it 2 hours after procedure it becomes dark, cloudy.
So RE will decide on Monday depending on the sperm count. It varies through the month. MY dh had normal SA 3 months ago. is it a fluke, or more stress causing low motility? Probably nothing geneticaly wrong. I am more comfortable with ICSI after a conversation today. My friend had 10 eggs retrieved anf non of them fertilise with IVF(SA were normal), they did ICSI next time and bingo!! They were lucky.
2. RE can not speculate why we didn't succeed this time. He agrees about doing a mock transfer after ER. The same RE will try to do ET on Wednesday.
3. No difference 2 day or 3 day transfer. We can do 2 day this time.
4. Valium during ET. He says yes if I want if it helps me, it won't interfere with implantation. Maybe I should use natural form valerian root? It helps me with a stage fright....
5. He still says that natural IVF is a lower chance with one embryo than traditional.(if we put two embryos, i agree) Yes I agree finding egg, fertilising and growing in lab taking chances with singleton. WE, Briss did it !!!! But when my embryo is in my uterus, I beleave I have a higher chance of implantation because of normal hormonal levels and general natural body balance.

Tomorrow you could see already a faint line on 10dpo.
Praying for you

 

[dovkav123]

I tested my O yesterday 2 times and LH hasn't spyked. It 's very good. I did HCG Ovitrel trigger yesterday and this morning I tested my pregnancy. 2 beautiful lines. First time in my life! Worth a photo.
Everything as scheduled so far.
Tomorrow is an egg colection.
Have a beautiful Sunday!
Prayed for your miracle.

 

[Briss]

Wonderful news!! excellent it all goes according to plan, best of luck with EC tomorrow!! grow eggie grow!!


afm, have spotting since last night cramping is back, tested still negative... losing hope

 

[dovkav123]

Oh no, stay hopeful! Don't give up! I had no spotting before my Af. You still have hope.
I am meeting a very religiuos person today, i'll tell her to pray for you and me for our July 2014 babies

 

[Briss]

Thank you!!
cramping is not getting any better, I do not think it's a good sign. I do not usually cramp or have spotting in TWW I guess synthetic progesterone does not work that well for me.

 

[dovkav123]

You have your own progesterone produced too, I think.
Please ask on Wednesday to check your estrogen and progesterone levels too.
This evening I really think I O'ed because I had wet egwcm with blood. I realy think my egg is gone. I didn't have blood for 2 months in a row because of ER. On My regular cycle I always have my O with a bit of blood and cramping. No cramping this time.
We'll do IUI tomorrow, if an egg is gone and hope and pray we'll catch him.

Cramping could be still a good thing. This is new for you, anything unusual and new is good.
Don't loose hope. The brain can be tricky. Your brain will think and your body will obey! Stay positive.!

 

[Briss]

dovkav, you are so inspirational, thank you! "anything unusual and new is good" - that shall be my moto!!! will try and see spotting and cramping as a positive sign

praying you have not ovulated yet!! I so hope you will catch that eggie tomorrow. good luck!

 

[dovkav123]

Thanks, Briss.
You're the best!
I am so emotionally prepared for everything happens this morning.
This 3rd time supposse to be a charm and I'll just flow with it. I won't push it.
This is at least scariest time ever. I hope that's the last one!!!!

 

[dovkav123]

eggy is found!
I am so happy!

 

[Briss]

dovkav, fantastic news!!! well done. fingers crossed for fertilisation!!

afm, 12 dpo this morning and tested negative, still spotting (a hint of light brown when I wipe) and cramping. I am trying to see it as positive but quite hard every time I see it it just strikes me as wrong. it's been 3 days

 

[Electricat]

eggy is found!
I am so happy!

Oh goodie

I'm stalking, think I will try and go this route v soon.

FX for all of us =)

 

[dovkav123]

eggy is found!
I am so happy!

Oh goodie

I'm stalking, think I will try and go this route v soon.

FX for all of us =)

Thanks for stopping and saying hello!
It is a long route, but I think soon we'll see the light in the end of this tunnel.
I saw a study, they concluded average natural IVF cycle success is trying 4 times.
If you have an questions, I'll be happy to answer.

 

[dovkav123]

dovkav, fantastic news!!! well done. fingers crossed for fertilisation!!

afm, 12 dpo this morning and tested negative, still spotting (a hint of light brown when I wipe) and cramping. I am trying to see it as positive but quite hard every time I see it it just strikes me as wrong. it's been 3 days

Hey Briss,
i am hoping and praying that spotting and cramping is a good news.
I checked your FF chart you never had spotting before AF, this is not PMS!!!
I checked some charts on FF, girls on IVF got positives late as 16dpo
Keep your hopes up!

 

[Briss]

dovkav, that's right I never spot before AF but I think it's down to progesterone, maybe I am taking too much - 3x400 mg?

I do not know if you noticed but in stimulated IVF cycles they do the test on 16 DPO while in natural IVF cycle on 14 DPO. I wonder why? maybe naturally we do not usually have 16 day LH. mine is 13/14 days.

I have two more days and they I guess they will stop my progesterone?

 

[dovkav123]

I don't know. I looked online about too much progesterone, I can't find anything bad. Too little progesterone is a problem. Some girls(after regular IVF) take estrogen too, together with progesterone. I beleave they have access of estrogen anyways. Why do they need more?

When I had IUI they told me to take 400mg and last month I took 600mg for IVF. My progesterone levels were very high, second trimester levels.
I'll ask this week, if I should stay on 400mg.

The retrieval was a little painful this time. Last month I had pain during needle removal only. Today I had pain all 6 seconds and lasted forever to me. I don't like when dr. tells "now we'll begin" I get stressed out because of those words. I felt my ovary moved and it did hurt. Dr. told me that a follicle was on the other side of the ovary, so she had to go accross(poke it through) it to reach a follicle. She said we can't tell an ovary where to grow a follicle. You suppose to laugh, but it's not funny No blood was lost. That's a good. We stayed in the hospital for an hour. I felt some local ovarian pain so I wanted to wait, I didn't want to pass out again. I had 3 cups of water and in an hour I was feeling great, we went home.

we did a mock transfer today. RE couldn't beleave I had a problem with transfer last month, my cervix was soft and open, she put catheter in with no problem. Wait till Wednesday I think. 2 days post O things may change. She adviced me to take Buscopan, it suppose to help to avoid spasms and cramping. Maybe it is emby friendly pill and helps him settle in more peacefull uterus? I may take 2 tablets.
I saw other girls also take Buscopan and even sedative with ET.

It is sad but I know nobody else who does natural IVF cycle. I want to make a youtube video. I hope I'll do 3 of them soon.

 

[Electricat]

eggy is found!
I am so happy!

Oh goodie

I'm stalking, think I will try and go this route v soon.

FX for all of us =)

Thanks for stopping and saying hello!
It is a long route, but I think soon we'll see the light in the end of this tunnel.
I saw a study, they concluded average natural IVF cycle success is trying 4 times.
If you have an questions, I'll be happy to answer.

Thank you =)

I was actually wondering how I get started.
I E-mailed them and they called me to have me in for an initial meeting or something (can't remember), not the One Stop fertility MOT that was mentioned in the E-mail.
Are they trying to suck me dry from the get go? Why would I have to have a "discussion" about my situation when it says that the MOT comes with a consult...?

How long do you think it will take from whatever initial meet I have until some action - do they start right away if it fits with your cycle?

Ty for answers =)

 

[dovkav123]

eggy is found!
I am so happy!

Oh goodie

I'm stalking, think I will try and go this route v soon.

FX for all of us =)

Thanks for stopping and saying hello!
It is a long route, but I think soon we'll see the light in the end of this tunnel.
I saw a study, they concluded average natural IVF cycle success is trying 4 times.
If you have an questions, I'll be happy to answer.

Thank you =)

I was actually wondering how I get started.
I E-mailed them and they called me to have me in for an initial meeting or something (can't remember), not the One Stop fertility MOT that was mentioned in the E-mail.
Are they trying to suck me dry from the get go? Why would I have to have a "discussion" about my situation when it says that the MOT comes with a consult...?

How long do you think it will take from whatever initial meet I have until some action - do they start right away if it fits with your cycle?

Ty for answers =)

I am sorry, what MOT means?
When I visited my RE for the first time I had to wait for 3 weeks to get a first appointment. They did all hormonal panel, make sure everything is normal. SA analysis. Than I called the clinic on CD1 and made an appointment on CD11 (1st IVF), CD8 (2-3rd IVF). It was always my first and the last ultrasound before an egg retrieval.I was just lucky. Blood test was done and scheduled HCG shot. Sounds simple and easy. However, every person is different.
I am very happy for you that you decided to do natural IVF. Is it going to be your first IVF?

 

[Briss]

They were not checking my progesterone levels, no idea whether it's low or high or normal.

Do you know why they take estrogen after ET? I thought estrogen was released before O only?

I do not think they poked your ovary through? they must have gone around it somehow. it's damaging? are you awake at EC? I was totally out so no idea what they did but it did not hurt afterwards and there was no bleeding or anything so i assumed it was fine.

 

[dovkav123]

Clinic did my blood test 14 days after retrieval. They checked estrogen and progesterone and HCG. Make sure they'll do it for you too.

CD8, 18mm follicle ,here are my blood tests 70 hours before ER,
LH 3.7u/I
progesterone .5ng/ml
estrogen 153.7 pg/ml

here are my tests after 14 days, 2ww
progesterone 140.1 ng/ml
estrogen 70.1 pg/ml

In the begining of th cycle till O estrogen increases and peaks and progesterone is low.
After O progesterone peaks and estrogen goes down.


Yes, I was awake during ER. It was my choice. I want to participate and have things in my control.
Clinic called today and we have an embryo, transfer is tomorrow at 10am.
Dr. told me to take 600mg progesterone today. My temps went up this morning, my natural progesterone kicked in.
I'll find out tomorrow, if it was IVF or ICSI. I trust dr. and their statistics. If ICSI was needed, I am OK with that.
Tomorrow is ET.
THis time I am prepared for success. I blame ET for failed last motnh's IVF.
1. I requested RE, not gynecologist(like last month) for ET.
2. WE'll transfer embryo day 2nd, not day 3rd
3. After ER, my RE did a mock transfer and she put catheter smoothly with no problems. She is doing ET tomorrow.
4. I am taking Buscopan before ET, it should help reduce muscle spasms and cramps.
5. If RE has some difficulties doing ET, I'll just walk out and I'll come later or next day. Cervix needs to recover...