7th Natural cycle IVF(w/o meds) and finally BFP!

[Briss]

dovkav, thank you! that's a good idea cos I thought they were only checking HCG but it would be very important to know all of it really: estrogen and progesterone and HCG.

Congratulations on the embryo!!! wonderful news!! you sound well prepared for ET. I will be praying it goes smoothly tomorrow.

It's so brave of you to be awake during ER! I was terrified. even for ET my knees were shaking and the nurse was holding them still.

afm, 13 DPO, my temp is up, no cramping and no spotting this morning I was getting my hopes up but… bfn. I guess it's quite clear now but I will continue hoping for a miracle up until I get my blood test results tomorrow.

 

[dovkav123]

ER told me not to come with a ful bladder?!!

Praying for you on Wednesday too. Your pregg tests may not be sensitive 25 or more are the best.

 

[Briss]

I am using these ones - https://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Step-1...qid=1381834275&sr=8-2&keywords=pregnancy+test it says ultra early… but it's 10miu. Are they more sensitive then 25 miu? If I understand correctly the lower the mlu ie:10 the earlier it's supposed to pick the pregnancy up?

Did a bit of googling: "Apparently, if a woman is pregnant, the amount of hCG in her system should be around 25 mIU at 10 dpo (days past ovulation), 50 mIU at 12 dpo, 100 mIU at around two weeks dpo. Non-pregnant women have HCG levels of 5.

First response early tests (up to 6 days before AF) 12.5 mIU
Boots own pregnancy tests 25 mIU
Clearblue 25 mIU

I hate having full bladder, at my clinic they do ET only with full bladder, it's so terribly uncomfortable and I had to pee (a lot of it!!) 5 min after ET. they said it was Ok

 

[Briss]

bad news for me, my beta came back as 8.3, too low to call it positive. They were very direct and told me that unfortunately they see it as negative. I am to repeat the test on Friday and they expect I get a completely negative result. They did not want to give me false hope and said with these low levels this is just not good news. the only positive fact is that there was an attempt at implantation but unfortunately not successful.

 

[dovkav123]

bad news for me, my beta came back as 8.3, too low to call it positive. They were very direct and told me that unfortunately they see it as negative. I am to repeat the test on Friday and they expect I get a completely negative result. They did not want to give me false hope and said with these low levels this is just not good news. the only positive fact is that there was an attempt at implantation but unfortunately not successful.

iT SUCKS , BRISS.
KEEP TESTING AT HOME AND AGAIN BLOOD TEST 2 MORE TIMES.
i GOT MY RESULTS <1. MY HUBBY DIDN'T BELEAVE IT, WE WAITED TILL 1 DAY BEFORE MY PERIOD i REDUCED MY PROGESTERORONE ONLY 1 A DAY, i GOT NEGATIVE AND QUIT THIS HORMONE AND MY af ARRIVED, ONLY THAN WE BELEAVED..IT'S OVER

 

[dovkav123]

bad news for me, my beta came back as 8.3, too low to call it positive. They were very direct and told me that unfortunately they see it as negative. I am to repeat the test on Friday and they expect I get a completely negative result. They did not want to give me false hope and said with these low levels this is just not good news. the only positive fact is that there was an attempt at implantation but unfortunately not successful.

sORRY FOR LATE RESPONSE, I WAS IN BED NAPPING HALF OF THE DAY. TRANSFER WENT FINE FROM THE FIRST TRY. pROFESSOR Re WAS SICK, SO THE SAME DR. DID IT LIKE LAST MONTH. iT WAS DEPRESSING, BUT i HOPE IT'LL WORK. wE DID ivf THIS TIME NOT icsi. we transfered 4Acell emby.
iT SUCKS , BRISS.
KEEP TESTING AT HOME AND AGAIN BLOOD TEST 2 MORE TIMES. Lab mistake, who know maye it'll double...
i GOT MY RESULTS <1. MY HUBBY DIDN'T BELEAVE IT, WE WAITED TILL 1 DAY BEFORE MY PERIOD i REDUCED MY PROGESTERONE ONLY 1 A DAY, i GOT NEGATIVE AND QUIT THIS HORMONE AND MY af ARRIVED, ONLY THAN WE BELEAVED..IT'S OVER

 

[Briss]

dovkav, it's great that the transfer went well. you are now officially PUPO!!

I also asked for bloods as you advised (although they were surprised about estradinol, said not sure why I wanted to have this and I did not know what to say)

Progesterone: 86.9
Estrogen: 4.49

I stopped testing, there is no point. Hopefully I will get a completely negative on friday cos I think if it starts increasing it maybe something worse than chemical... the doc did not exactly say that but when i asked if there is a hope she kind of hinted that it's not in my interests at this point of the game. I know so little about this stuff, this is the first time I got any beta reading. I am still on progesterone until Friday's test but I also reduced it to 2 a day.

Feeling pretty depressed. after Friday's test I can schedule the review appointment to discuss what's next for us and why this one did not work.

 

[dovkav123]

Thinking of you, sending you hugs and kisses.
I feel heartbroken too for your unlucky cycle.
This is a begining of your journey. Don't give up, don't you ever give up!

 

[Briss]

Just got a confirmation my beta dropped to 1.7, anything below 5 is officially negative so I got my closure and can stop progesterone now

 

[dovkav123]

I am so sorry. Sending you tons of love and hugs

 

[Briss]

thank you. we scheduled our review appointment in November to discuss what could have gone wrong and what our next step. if my next cycle is back to normal then we can try again in a cycle.

 

[dovkav123]

4day 2day transfer,I have nothing to report. No symptoms, even progesterone doesn't give me any tingle...

Briss, Thinking of you

 

[Briss]

how much progesterone are you on?

hoping and preying this is your last IVF and you will get a BFP really soon. if you are going to test I'd recommend FRER, they gave me a line at 9 beta!

my Af is here. I am going to do CD3 bloods to see what's going on with my hormones.

 

[dovkav123]

I was wrong before. I looked at my box and noticed that i am taking 3 pills. 100mg each. My prog. was higher (140 )than yours, maybe because I take orally?

You are doing CD3 blood tests, great! Will you be able to talk to a dr. what went wrong?
My dr. doesn't want to speculate what went wrong, he keep saying that with fertility drugs I have more chances. He just want to sell his deal!
He is a professor, a scientist, he has no need to test me further??!!

Two natural IVF=one medicated(he wants to put 2 embys on medicated)

Even if we put 3 embies and they won't take.
it''s about my uterus, something with implantation....

If I fail this one, I need to run serious testing my autoimmunity, thrombofilia and others. Maybe my blood is fighting with dh's blood?

Briss,how are you feeling. Your AF came next day after quiting prog? Is the flow heavier?
you know more now. At least you know that your emby grew bigger in your incubator and was implanted or tried to. Maybe hatching was a problem? Can you talk to your dr about it?

 

[Briss]

we will be able to ask all questions at our review appointment in november. From my reading it seems like the main reason for a chemical is chromosomal issues with the embryo, I guess either the egg or the sperm quality was not good and it was never going to develop further. At my age not every egg will be of good quality but I think sperm is more likely to be the problem as DH was drinking lots of beer everyday Still, you are right there are some positives like the fact that my body was trying to do what it's supposed to i.e. help the embryo to grow and attach. It is also possible that implantation was an issue but I doubt it as they said my lining was very good. I also had hysteroscopy in 2012 and they did biopcy of the lining and did not find anything wrong with it. why do you think you might have something wrong with implantation?

Wow, your progesterone must be naturally very good! so I guess that's why they do not give you that much additionally. makes sense. I read that it's the oppostive if you take it vaginaly or rectaly it goes towards the lining but if you take it oraly it gets absorbed everywhere in your body, i.e. not targetting the lining.

I will do the bloods privately myself not at the clinic. as far as I am concerned they are done, I am only entited to the review appointment.

My AF came the next day after I stopped progesterone and is heavy today but it's normal for CD2. have not seen any clots. I was expecting large clots cos effectively this AF is more like mc.

 

[dovkav123]

How are you today?
Did you do your tests?
Today is 7dpo, 4days after transfer. BIG day! My temp went down. I had a nose bleed today and feel congested(sinus headaches) since yesterday.

it make sense, if I take progesterone orally, it circulates all over the body, so more in the blood stream, higher the test results.

It is possible to do an embryo biopsy and find out the problem. But if we're working with one embryo than it doesn't matter. WE just take a chance.

How about your DH family? Do they have lots of kids? low sperm count could be genetical problems

My dh family, he has a tree from 1400, men got married late and had only one child. So I can't tell much about genetics, mostly one child was due by aging sperm.

 

[Briss]

dovkav, I did CD 3 bloods and repeated AMH today, results will be ready tomorrow. I booked my scan for wednesday. I also want to do breasts scan as progesterone gave me lots of side effects.

I read that embryo biopsy is not safe and they are working on some other methods at the moment. I agree we just have to take a chance.

My DH's the only child and a late child as well so you might be right.

wow! that's so exciting to have a family tree from 1400!!

when are you testing? I would not worry about the temp drop.

 

[dovkav123]

dovkav, I did CD 3 bloods and repeated AMH today, results will be ready tomorrow. I booked my scan for wednesday. I also want to do breasts scan as progesterone gave me lots of side effects.

I read that embryo biopsy is not safe and they are working on some other methods at the moment. I agree we just have to take a chance.

My DH's the only child and a late child as well so you might be right.

wow! that's so exciting to have a family tree from 1400!!

when are you testing? I would not worry about the temp drop.

I'll test on Sat or on Sunday.
can progesterone cause problems? I thought being preggo and high progesterone protects from women cancer.

 

[Briss]

I got lumps in my breasts while on progestrone. I hope they will go away and just side effects. it's best to check breats before CD 10 cos progestrone can create all sorts of things but they go away once AF starts.

 

[Briss]

I got my CD3 bloods and all seems to be in order, progestrone is low at 0.9, estrogen is about 175 which seems to be OK, not too high so hopefully no cysts. FSH is depressingly high at 16.3 but that was to be expected. I had only mild stimulation, about 150 IU of menopur for 5 days and it looks like it did not affect my hormones. Still need to do a scan tomorrow to check what's going on.